Official Sony Xbr4 Vs. Samsung Lnt71 Thread. Both In My Livingroom - Page 9

Do you remember if, when you still had the 81, the viewing angles were relatively poor on that or not?

Thanks for all the help so far!

Check out the spreadsheet in my sig for the lowdown on reported green push from LX owners. It is ofcourse a non-issue for me...

The Toshiba seems really pixelated on the leaf below the mushroom--is that the TV, or the camera?

I'd love some more gaming comparisons as well. A huge percentage of my purchase decision will be based on how good the 360 and PS3 perform on these sets. 360 dashboard shots, in-game shots, and such would be awesome!

Thanks SJ! This is an awesome thread!

LOL, yeah its damn near impossible to get a 100% accurate pic. I'm glad to hear that you are seeing something close to what I am, from what I understand.

My pic should of course not be used to pass judgement on whether the LX is better than XBR or 71. Comparison based on those pics alone is not fair as there are too many variables here. My main point was just to illustrate that I think the LX can keep up with the big boys. I think the LX was more or less the winner from Robert's in store shoot-out. Granted, the XBR4 and the 71 were not there.

So sharpjunkie, when are you picking up that LX, hehe?

Thanks for the information, but I don't know what you mean by this last part, since I don't have much experience with RP sets...

Sharpjunkie,
First of all-awesome post-I have been trying to find a direct comparison for days. I saw both sets at a local Visions store-but the store settings blew.
I just bought the 46XBR4-mostly for decreased gloss compared to the sammy.
I know you're still trying to figure the settings completely, but could you please post your ultimate settings (re:changes to settings from fresh out of the box) when you finish.
I need your HD mojo.

Is there any options on the Samsung for noise reduction?
The Sharp D62U's has Digital Noise Reduction (DVR) it made a HUGE difference when turned on.
I remember the Panasonic plasma's had Noise Reduction options as well.
Nothing like that on the Samsung?



Can turning on ANY of the Picture modes or options on the Samsung, absolutely anything at all like Vivid DNiE, even if they induce black crush get the sharpness on par with the Sony on Vivid?

That muddy low resolution on the 71 compared to the XBR & even the Toshiba has almost stopped me from going with the Samsung.

That's not pixelation, that's the detail on a crusty decaying leaf. You might be picking up some film grain but I doubt it.

It must be just coming through in the picture, then, because I see a distinct gridlike pattern in that leaf. The vertical lines of the "grid" are much more prevalent than the horizontal.

The comparison between those 3 TV's is not valid, unless you take them with the same camera. Sorry, I know a little about cameras.
Some cameras applying heavy sharpness in camera and it's a lot of other settings could be different: what aperture, shutter speed , ISO and so on. I can take those images to Photoshop and make them so sharp that you will run to the store to pick this set up
What I am trying to say , that Toshiba LX177 looks great, but can't be compared to XBR4 or 71f unless image taken with the same camera.

got it my XBR4 image is close but white is cleaner i think camera is dulling it

This almost looks like the LX177 pic. I just goes to show you can't go on screen shots alone to say one set is better then the other.

I think Teepanen has the better camera. You should she is TMNT Blu-ray shots in the LX177 thread.

Exactly! Good point.

hehe mine is about a 3 year old Fuji S3000

no rain forcast here BTW


didnt get close enough sorry


Shadows

Blah i'm beginning to agree.

OMG I WANT IT

Its really amazing how close the sets really are just a minor tweak this way or that can make them look almost identical. I have not noticed any blur/smearing on any sources

Game shots are hard to do, if you pause a menu comes up and if you take a pic during play it smears and streaks.

Well, have we determined a winner here between the XBR and 71?!?! Somebody has to declare a winner.

Whoa since when did the Sony XBR decide to use local dimming? Haha

The winner is----------------------

The guy who gets a good unit and adjusts it properly

A green free Toshiba looks good

A cloud/mura free Sony looks good

A cloud/mura free Samsung looks good (not to me but outhers )

Hawt ninja action! Thanks Sig!

More gaming pics please.

Nope no dead pixels must be somthing on the lens or somthing. There is also 2 farther down 1 to the side of the Sony logo and 1 at the very bottom of the pics. Perhaps the Sony logo light reflecting off of lint ? They were not their in the first shot i took from Planet Earth.

So the PS3 performs very well on both sets? This is a big concern to me in buying one of these. Thing is, I won't be able to afford a PS3 for awhile once I purchase the tv so I'd love some reassurance that the PS3, as well as the 360 in 1080, will perform well. Thanks to all!

Thanks for this picture...it was clear to me that shake in what Sharpiejunkies original shots.....to gauge the shake just look at the frozen pause icon....the Toshiba photographer had his shot perfect....much like yours. That is why nothing compares to Sharpjunkies both TVs in one shot pictures.

Slapping them together for easy comparison.....the front leaf looks more natural to me in the XBR
....what really needs confirming is the Sony shades the back tree with a green hue....while the Toshiba is more only brown.....Which is correct?

Toshiba

XBR4


PS please note the Sony emblem in this shot.....when you see a white hot glowing SONY emblem at the bottom of a picture.....its magnifying the light....and any claims of clouds.

You heard of the guy who said give me a place to put the fulcrum and a long enough lever and I can lift the world......well give me a digital camera and any ...any LCD....and I will give it clouds.

I've run the HQV tests on my XBR4 and it properly deinterlaces 1080i content. I'm beginning to wonder why people think this is a Sony problem. As was mentioned, out of the box the XBR4's have DRC Mode1 on in their "Vivid" mode, and this causes it to fail the resolution loss test. However, turning DRC to "off" rectifies this. Yes, it's quite silly that the out-of-the-box settings are causing resolution loss, but people who use out-of-the-box settings aren't likely to care about resolution loss in the first place, are they?

And I'm beginning to envy all of these great pics from XBR4s, Toshiba 77's and Samsung 71's even though I have an XBR4 with the same movies sitting in my living room. All I have to do is go rewatch them on my new set and I'll be in HD heaven just like everybody else, but I'm more compelled to come to the PC and look at the pics you guys post. Something must be wrong with me.

Brandon