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post #2971 of 4166
7/5/10 at 12:17am
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Originally Posted by DynNad View Post

Apparently the latest version is 1.27
NAD is the only brand that doesn't believe that the users ARE capable of upgrading the units..

I guess lot's of reasons behind that..... too many diff cards on the market(some with extra capacitors, some with less or wrong values and so on... )

DN

Don't forget that your dealer needs to provide some additional value too, I think it helps tie the consumer to the local dealer.

Hopefully soon all devises will be ethernet enabled and all fireware can be done directly.
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post #2972 of 4166
7/5/10 at 10:21am
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Originally Posted by jdc115 View Post

Don't forget that your dealer needs to provide some additional value too, I think it helps tie the consumer to the local dealer.

Hopefully soon all devises will be ethernet enabled and all fireware can be done directly.

Ethernet is the way to go for sure, I update my Oppo BDP-83 SE that way and it is very efficient.

I did call my dealer (Definitive Audio) and, as they do not have one in-stock, that my unit would come directly from NAD so should have the latest SW. But they will also check to make sure. It should be here this week.
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post #2973 of 4166
7/6/10 at 2:42am
I remember reading, way back in this thread, that Sony TVs were not necessarily compatible with NAD and resulted in audio drop outs. I have a Sony XBR4 and have experienced some audio drop outs. I could live with it so never did anything about it. I have a T785 non HD with firmware 1.16.

I now need a new TV. Always insist your kids wear the wrist straps when using the Wii controllers, LCD screens don't do well when they get hit with a controller. So my question is, How well do the different TV brands mate with the T7X5 non HD AVRs in terms of audio and video drop outs? What are your experiences that can be helpful in choosing a compatible TV?

If I can elliminate the audio drop outs by switching TV manufacturers, might as well do it now.

Thanks

Blair
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post #2974 of 4166
7/9/10 at 8:42pm
Have the T775 HD, 7.1 PSB Image speaker system, and a 58-inch Samsung 650 plasma, which I only use as a monitor. No issues: great sound and great video via Comcast STB and LG Blu-Ray player. Blu-Ray and cable STB connected via HDMI v1.4 cables. Streaming Netflix over CAT-6 cables from Win 7 PC to LG Blu-Ray player gives me better resolution than my previous WiFi setup, but that's not saying much for Netflix instant downloads. They're good for just watching favorite old movies available instantly but low-resolution (compared with good DVDs and certainly compared with Blu-Ray) video and often just stereo soundtracks--a far cry from the lossless master formats you get on good Blu-Ray disks. With the latter, the NAD T775 HD shines. Once I got everything set up right, I've had no compatibility issues with the Samsung plasma TV. I don't play video games at all, so that's not an issue.
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post #2975 of 4166
7/15/10 at 5:02pm
Thanks for the reply George. I'm tending towards Samsung for my next TV. 55" LED most likely.
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post #2976 of 4166
7/20/10 at 4:01pm
Well my T785 arrived and it does not have the latest firmware (v1.27) but has the v1.22. That said I contacted NAD and was told to try the Receiver first to see if I have any issues. What issues did the newer firmware versions correct? I can return the T785 to the dealer (30 mile trip) they will then send it to their techs and it would be a week turn around.

The problem is getting this monster into my rack and system is not an easy task. So I pressed the NAD rep to send me the firmware which he did, but he kept emphasizing the posibility of me turning my T785 into a brick! that now I am hesitant about doing the upgrade.

So I guess what I am asking is what did the newer firmwares since V1.22 fix and for those who have installed the firmware upgrades is it that tricky (NAD reps words) and difficult to do?
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post #2977 of 4166
7/20/10 at 4:54pm
This is just my uneducated opinion, but I would not even bother to install and test the unit until it was updated. If that takes a week and costs me some gas and two hours of driving, so be it. Where did you buy it if it wasn't up to date (and why)?
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post #2978 of 4166
7/20/10 at 6:49pm
For what it's worth, I wouldn't consider updating the firmware to be a tricky process at all. The only thing tricky may be making sure you have a functional usb to serial adapter, unless you have a serial port on your computer which is unlikely these days. I can check mine out and give you the make/model if you don't have one, I've yet to have any kind of issue updating .
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post #2979 of 4166
7/20/10 at 10:47pm
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Originally Posted by radtek View Post

Well my T785 arrived and it does not have the latest firmware (v1.27) but has the v1.22. That said I contacted NAD and was told to try the Receiver first to see if I have any issues. What issues did the newer firmware versions correct? I can return the T785 to the dealer (30 mile trip) they will then send it to their techs and it would be a week turn around.

The problem is getting this monster into my rack and system is not an easy task. So I pressed the NAD rep to send me the firmware which he did, but he kept emphasizing the posibility of me turning my T785 into a brick! that now I am hesitant about doing the upgrade.

So I guess what I am asking is what did the newer firmwares since V1.22 fix and for those who have installed the firmware upgrades is it that tricky (NAD reps words) and difficult to do?

I did the firmware update to 1.24 myself. Very easy and straight forward. In the pdf file folowing the 1.24 firmware it is described what have been fixed.
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post #2980 of 4166
7/21/10 at 10:01am
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Originally Posted by Big Lag View Post

This is just my uneducated opinion, but I would not even bother to install and test the unit until it was updated. If that takes a week and costs me some gas and two hours of driving, so be it. Where did you buy it if it wasn't up to date (and why)?

Well I decided to take it in and have the dealer (Definitive Audio) do the upgrade, not being able to locate the cable I use to connect to my laptop was the deciding factor. I have used this on my Pio Elite for calibration but that's been a while it is probably some where in the snake pit of cables that have accumulated over the years

I don't know why the firmware was not up to date and neither did the sales rep at Definitive? To make sure I get the correct up grade I sent them the email from NAD with the firmware zip file.

I should add that the dealer I am using is with a new satellite store from their larger parent store in Seattle so they seem a little bit in disarray as to how all this is done. The main store will be doing the upgrade.

I still have the old T773, which is still no slouch, in the system so I guess another another week wont be that bad, but!...
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post #2981 of 4166
7/24/10 at 9:29am
This may be old news but I was experimenting with my t785HD's Video Setup yesterday and accidentally set the Frame Rate to 50. I checked the manual and it says to simultaneously press, then release, the LISTENING MODE and TONE DEFEAT buttons on the front panel to reset the video display.

That is wrong!

Through a little trial and error, I discovered that the correct combination is to simultaneously press, then release, the LISTENING MODE and FRONT INPUT/MP buttons.

Firmware:
MCU: v1.23
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post #2982 of 4166
7/29/10 at 2:57am
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Originally Posted by Blair3 View Post

I have a T785 non HD with firmware 1.16. I now need a new TV. ...How well do the different TV brands mate with the T7X5 non HD AVRs in terms of audio and video drop outs?

I have the same T785 and same firmware. I use a Panasonic plasma TH50PY800. No audio dropouts as a result of the TV. There's still the pops and cracks when the Blu-ray switches audio streams on BD or DVD, not to mention the pops and cracks that occur less frequently when playing CDs.
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post #2983 of 4166
8/3/10 at 5:57pm
OK, something weird is happening on my 785... I'm watching tv and I see the on screen display come on and it's lowering the volume on its own! Intermittent and first time I ever saw this. At first I thought maybe the remote has battery issue but it's not pointed at the receiver and I don't see the red lite on the remote blink. Has anyone seen anything like this? Could it be the volume dial somehow lost tension and is turning on its own? I almost never manually adjust the volume, always the remote.
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post #2984 of 4166
8/4/10 at 8:59am
It might be a problem with the remote receiver but it also may be a stray IR signal. To test, try blocking the Remote Sensor window on the front panel of the receiver (the lower-right corner of the display window) and see if that stops the problem.
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post #2985 of 4166
8/5/10 at 7:41am
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Originally Posted by Phil Tomaskovic View Post

OK, something weird is happening on my 785... I'm watching tv and I see the on screen display come on and it's lowering the volume on its own! Intermittent and first time I ever saw this. At first I thought maybe the remote has battery issue but it's not pointed at the receiver and I don't see the red lite on the remote blink. Has anyone seen anything like this? Could it be the volume dial somehow lost tension and is turning on its own? I almost never manually adjust the volume, always the remote.

Well hasn't happened again since that nite...
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post #2986 of 4166
8/7/10 at 8:35pm
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Originally Posted by radtek View Post

Well I decided to take it in and have the dealer (Definitive Audio) do the upgrade, not being able to locate the cable I use to connect to my laptop was the deciding factor. I have used this on my Pio Elite for calibration but that's been a while it is probably some where in the snake pit of cables that have accumulated over the years

I don't know why the firmware was not up to date and neither did the sales rep at Definitive? To make sure I get the correct up grade I sent them the email from NAD with the firmware zip file.

I should add that the dealer I am using is with a new satellite store from their larger parent store in Seattle so they seem a little bit in disarray as to how all this is done. The main store will be doing the upgrade.

I still have the old T773, which is still no slouch, in the system so I guess another another week wont be that bad, but!...

I got the T785 back finally from the dealer late yesterday, so today I dove into reconfiguring the whole rack setup, pulled out the T773 got the T785 HD in and guess what no sound! The message says Check DSP Board, I did several shutdowns and other checks,I finally stood on my head with flashlight in mouth mirror in hand and stuck a optic cable in, nothing, even the tuner and test tones don't work.

I check the firmware and this is what I believe maybe the problem.
MCV: v1.28
DSP: unknown! WHAT!
Vide: v1.04
Vxp: v1.00
VART: unknown ? I am not sure what this one is. But you think they screwed up putting in the firmware? I mean there should be a version for the DSP !

I have found the cable and adapter for my laptop and could try and redo the firmware myself but at this point don't know if I should try and redo their screw up if it is one.

I will give the main dealer in Seattle who did the upgrade a call tomorrow and see what they say.
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post #2987 of 4166
8/8/10 at 7:43am
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Originally Posted by radtek View Post

I got the T785 back finally from the dealer late yesterday, so today I dove into reconfiguring the whole rack setup, pulled out the T773 got the T785 HD in and guess what no sound! The message says Check DSP Board, I did several shutdowns and other checks,I finally stood on my head with flashlight in mouth mirror in hand and stuck a optic cable in, nothing, even the tuner and test tones don't work.

I check the firmware and this is what I believe maybe the problem.
MCV: v1.28
DSP: unknown! WHAT!
Vide: v1.04
Vxp: v1.00
VART: unknown ? I am not sure what this one is. But you think they screwed up putting in the firmware? I mean there should be a version for the DSP !

I have found the cable and adapter for my laptop and could try and redo the firmware myself but at this point don't know if I should try and redo their screw up if it is one.

I will give the main dealer in Seattle who did the upgrade a call tomorrow and see what they say.

It sounds like they did not complete the update properly. Bob Moran suggests updating all aspects of the firmware even it shows up to date. They certainly could not have tested the unit after the update??
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post #2988 of 4166
8/8/10 at 8:41am
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Originally Posted by ddingle View Post

It sounds like they did not complete the update properly. Bob Moran suggests updating all aspects of the firmware even it shows up to date. They certainly could not have tested the unit after the update??

That's what I think, It is Sunday I doubt they are open but will call them later. I am not a very happy camper right now. Its not a simple task to get this brute in and out of the system plus another 35 mile trip to bring it back.

Do you think I should try and upgrade the FW myself? Would I be able to just overwrite what is in the T785 now?
Or is it best to let them fix their own mess?
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post #2989 of 4166
8/8/10 at 7:51pm
Does NAD receiver set delays/levels/EQ for 2 sub preouts separately or does it treat it as summed output?
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post #2990 of 4166
8/8/10 at 7:55pm
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Originally Posted by vinodk View Post

Does NAD receiver set delays/levels/EQ for 2 sub preouts separately or does it treat it as summed output?

1 and 2 sub outputs are the same. Basically in parallel. I have used Audyssey Sub Eq which can combine 2 woofers very effectively
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post #2991 of 4166
8/8/10 at 7:58pm
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Originally Posted by radtek View Post

That's what I think, It is Sunday I doubt they are open but will call them later. I am not a very happy camper right now. Its not a simple task to get this brute in and out of the system plus another 35 mile trip to bring it back.

Do you think I should try and upgrade the FW myself? Would I be able to just overwrite what is in the T785 now?
Or is it best to let them fix their own mess?

I would probably try to update it myself,but since this is the first time you would be updating it might make sense to drag it in. There might be other problems you would want them to take responsibility for. If you mess with it they might blame you.
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post #2992 of 4166
8/9/10 at 2:59am
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Originally Posted by radtek View Post

That's what I think, It is Sunday I doubt they are open but will call them later. I am not a very happy camper right now. Its not a simple task to get this brute in and out of the system plus another 35 mile trip to bring it back.

Do you think I should try and upgrade the FW myself? Would I be able to just overwrite what is in the T785 now?
Or is it best to let them fix their own mess?

I think I would make the dealer come and get it, update and deliver it to you for your troubles. Not sure if they will but I would certainly let them know you are not happy
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post #2993 of 4166
8/9/10 at 6:27am
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Originally Posted by jdc115 View Post

I think I would make the dealer come and get it, update and deliver it to you for your troubles. Not sure if they will but I would certainly let them know you are not happy

I spoke to the senior sales rep I bought it from and he knows quite well I am upset and he also knows I belong to AVS, not a good combo if you want to keep your companies reputation intact. I also emailed him screen shots of the FW info and a short video of the unit it self flashing its check DSP board message. That said, he too is quite upset about his companies techs who did the blotched FW upgrade and also for not bench testing it to see if the actually works!

He said to not bring it in until he talks turkey to the suits (today) and wants them to just exchange it for another new unit that he will guarantee is up to date and functioning properly. He is to let me know whats up later today.

I have the unit out and sitting on my kitchen table and I am just itching to re-install the firmware myself to see if that is the only problem. I am a builder and a tinkerer at heart but feel I must restrain myself this time.
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post #2994 of 4166
8/9/10 at 7:27am
Is there a way to program the HTRC-1 remote to operate other components? The manual does not provide any remote codes to enter for other components like other universal remotes. Reading through the manual it seems to be a cumbersome process to make the remote learn to operate basic functions of other components. Perhaps I am wrong. How do you switch inputs with the remote-by using the numerical keys?
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post #2995 of 4166
8/9/10 at 8:36am
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Originally Posted by radtek View Post

I spoke to the senior sales rep I bought it from and he knows quite well I am upset and he also knows I belong to AVS, not a good combo

What an exasperating chain of events. I know I have looked at my $3000 box wondering how I ever justified it. A lot of us are driving cars worth less money.

Maybe they just made an honest but sloppy mistake and the tech set your receiver on the "done" shelf. I would invite the dealer to make his own confession here. If not for himself, then for the other dealers that consistently satisfy their customers expectations..
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post #2996 of 4166
8/9/10 at 8:40am
You have to "teach" the remote using others. It's not that difficult and there is the capability to "copy" the key functions that are duplicated (like volume, for instance). Once you get the hang of it, it is actually quite easy.

You switch inputs by selecting "AMP" and pressing the number keys. You first have to program the AVR's inputs.
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post #2997 of 4166
8/9/10 at 10:17am
I got rid of my NAD, but I actually bought an HTR-3 remote for a universal remote. I love the compatibility in programing with it.
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post #2998 of 4166
8/17/10 at 4:25am
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Originally Posted by Phil Tomaskovic View Post

OK, something weird is happening on my 785... I'm watching tv and I see the on screen display come on and it's lowering the volume on its own! Intermittent and first time I ever saw this. At first I thought maybe the remote has battery issue but it's not pointed at the receiver and I don't see the red lite on the remote blink. Has anyone seen anything like this? Could it be the volume dial somehow lost tension and is turning on its own? I almost never manually adjust the volume, always the remote.

I had this happen to me with a T785. Was never able to work out what the reason was. Ghost in the machine type event.
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post #2999 of 4166
8/17/10 at 6:53am
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Originally Posted by laager View Post

I had this happen to me with a T785. Was never able to work out what the reason was. Ghost in the machine type event.

thanks... haven't seen it since that day. Mailed Bob Moran and he said it should be serviced if I see it again.
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post #3000 of 4166
8/19/10 at 3:07am
How can I see this on my T785HD?

MCV: v1.28
DSP: unknown! WHAT!
Vide: v1.04
Vxp: v1.00
VART: unknown ?
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