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post #3511 of 4288
Can anyone tell me what options do you have for DSP when the signal is Dolby Digital 2.0? Can you enable DD ProLogic or ProLogic IIx? The options I have are Direct and Stereo Downmix, regardless wheter the digital signal is 2.0 or 5.1. I thought that you can enable ProLogic or NEO for any source, even if it is DD 5.1 or DTS 5.1, can anyone confirm?
post #3512 of 4288
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Originally Posted by vddobrev View Post

Can anyone tell me what options do you have for DSP when the signal is Dolby Digital 2.0? Can you enable DD ProLogic or ProLogic IIx? The options I have are Direct and Stereo Downmix, regardless wheter the digital signal is 2.0 or 5.1. I thought that you can enable ProLogic or NEO for any source, even if it is DD 5.1 or DTS 5.1, can anyone confirm?

Do you have the t775hd? On my T775hd I can apply the IIx on any signal as long as I have my system configured for 7.1. I even tested it with dts hd ma 5.1. It expanded that to 7.1. What firmware versions do you have?
post #3513 of 4288
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Originally Posted by bommai View Post

Do you have the t775hd? On my T775hd I can apply the IIx on any signal as long as I have my system configured for 7.1. I even tested it with dts hd ma 5.1. It expanded that to 7.1. What firmware versions do you have?

I have T785HD. It is configured as 5.1. I will enable rear surronds, and see what options I have. In the meantime, if you set yours for 5.1, what options do you have for DD and DTS signals?
post #3514 of 4288
I have the T775HD - my sub is not working on the NAD - thought it was a bad sub wire - so I hooked up my sub to my HK3490 and it works perfect.

What I am missing?
Do I need to go set something up again in the set up menu?
Did I change a setting somewhere by accident?

Looking for some pointers before I go back and trouble shoot again - right now enjoying some 2.1 sound.

Sub is the HSU STF-1
post #3515 of 4288
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Originally Posted by surfcane View Post

I have the T775HD - my sub is not working on the NAD - thought it was a bad sub wire - so I hooked up my sub to my HK3490 and it works perfect.

What I am missing?
Do I need to go set something up again in the set up menu?
Did I change a setting somewhere by accident?

Looking for some pointers before I go back and trouble shoot again - right now enjoying some 2.1 sound.

Sub is the HSU STF-1

If your sub is not working how can you enjoy 2.1. Shouldn't it be 2.0? When you did the audyssey calibration, did you hear the sub and did audyssey say "ok" for it? Initially mine said check phase and after multiple tries I set the phase of the sub to 180 degrees and then Audyssey said ok. Also check the levels after calibration. If it set the sub as -12 dB, I recommend lowering the gain on the sub and rerunning again for more accurate measurement.
post #3516 of 4288
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Originally Posted by vddobrev View Post


I have T785HD. It is configured as 5.1. I will enable rear surronds, and see what options I have. In the meantime, if you set yours for 5.1, what options do you have for DD and DTS signals?

I am on vacation and am not near my receiver. I won't return until aug 1st.
post #3517 of 4288
I was listening to 2.1 with a different receiver - that is how I was enjoying 2.1 - I thought my wire was bad but worked fine on on HK.

I did not do the calibration -

Do I have to do a calibration for the NAD to recognize the sub?
post #3518 of 4288
You don't have to do a calibration for the NAD to recognize the sub. You have the sub enabled in the set up menu with the levels up high enough, right?
post #3519 of 4288
yes, the problem was my brother in law plugged the sub wire into the wrong sub connection in the back of the receiver and i was listening to another receiver and when i reconnected the sub to the nad - i determined what had happened - so easy to overlook the obvious - esp if you did not do it
post #3520 of 4288
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Originally Posted by bommai View Post
I had sent the mp3 files to NAD and they are sending them to their labs. I am hoping they will find a software solution.
Did you ever hear back from them?
post #3521 of 4288
Saturday Audio now has the vm150 available. Considering it plus the am200. Can anyone reply if they have upgraded to the am200 from the original 775/785 and noticed any significant improvements? And I'm more interested in sound quality vs things like pops or other nuisances. I know those things are worth fixing but I want to know if the card by itself is worth it for overall sound quality vs the original or even the am100.
post #3522 of 4288
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Originally Posted by Phil Tomaskovic View Post

Saturday Audio now has the vm150 available. Considering it plus the am200. Can anyone reply if they have upgraded to the am200 from the original 775/785 and noticed any significant improvements? And I'm more interested in sound quality vs things like pops or other nuisances. I know those things are worth fixing but I want to know if the card by itself is worth it for overall sound quality vs the original or even the am100.

I had a stock T785 without any upgrades for almost 3 years.

Due to problems(mentioned earlier in thread), my dealer installed AM200+VM150. I must say, that for me, this made all the difference.

Sound is much more clear, crisp and dynamic. The Dynamic EQ feature of Audyssey XT is worth ALL the money alone!! I'm loving the deep bass and powerful sound, even at VERY low sound levels. This means a lot for me! It means I can watch a movie with great sound experience, even the kids are a sleep.

After getting AM200+VM150 installed it was like getting a new reciever!

My 2 cents
/Jim
post #3523 of 4288
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Originally Posted by itdk View Post

I had a stock T785 without any upgrades for almost 3 years.

Due to problems(mentioned earlier in thread), my dealer installed AM200+VM150. I must say, that for me, this made all the difference.

Sound is much more clear, crisp and dynamic. The Dynamic EQ feature of Audyssey XT is worth ALL the money alone!! I'm loving the deep bass and powerful sound, even at VERY low sound levels. This means a lot for me! It means I can watch a movie with great sound experience, even the kids are a sleep.

After getting AM200+VM150 installed it was like getting a new reciever!

My 2 cents
/Jim

thanks Jim! What kind of speakers do you have? I have B&W 703.
post #3524 of 4288
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Originally Posted by Phil Tomaskovic View Post

thanks Jim! What kind of speakers do you have? I have B&W 703.

Your welcome, Phil.

I have a pair of Dali Mentor 6 fronts, Dali Mentor LCR as center/surround and Dali SWA12 Sub. 5.1 setup for now.

/Jim
post #3525 of 4288
When I used to have the HK AVR 745 and 7550HD, I could manually set the crossovers and do the EQ calibration using the Ezset/EQ II. Does the Audyssey EQ calibration on the NAD T775HD allow you to do that? When I do the calibration, it automatically sets the crossover and does the EQ. Unfortunately, I don't like the crossover it selects especially for my fronts. It says they are 160Hz when the fronts are Klipsch RF5 (down to 37Hz). I am wondering if the EQ'd system goes out of EQ if I manually change the crossovers after the setup is run.
post #3526 of 4288
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Originally Posted by bommai View Post

Does the Audyssey EQ calibration on the NAD T775HD allow you to do that? When I do the calibration, it automatically sets the crossover and does the EQ. Unfortunately, I don't like the crossover it selects especially for my fronts. It says they are 160Hz when the fronts are Klipsch RF5 (down to 37Hz). I am wondering if the EQ'd system goes out of EQ if I manually change the crossovers after the setup is run.

Regardless of AVR, Audyssey detects the in room low frequency roll off of your speakers, applies no further correction below that point, and reports that info to the AVR, which then sets the crossover frequency.

You, the user, are always free to adjust the automatically selected crossover frequency. But you should only raise the crossover. It is rarely a good idea to lower it, as that additional bandwidth goes uncorrected.

If you notice a big discrepancy (e.g. 160 Hz vs 37 Hz) between the automatically selected crossover frequency and your speakers' supposed low frequency capability, then you have acoustical issues that need to be addressed. In their current placements relative to the listening position, your speakers ostensibly experience a major suckout ~160 Hz. Fix that issue, then rerun Audyssey.

AJ
post #3527 of 4288
does anyone know if a hiss noise was fixed on a new T175 units ? i have older t163 with a hiss issue not sure if it fixable or how much does it cost
post #3528 of 4288
Has anyone found places to buy the upgrade cards online? I called Spearit Sounds and they will sell but quoted MSRP. I will probably go with Saturday Audio where I got my T785. I did see on Spearit's site that the vm150x card will be $200 which isn't too bad, but it is not available yet.
post #3529 of 4288
My T775HD has AM200 and VM100. The new T775HD2 has AM200 and VM100 with HDMI 1.4a (as per NAD's website). Is this a mistake or do they have multiple flavors of VM100 cards - confusing!
post #3530 of 4288
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Originally Posted by bommai View Post

My T775HD has AM200 and VM100. The new T775HD2 has AM200 and VM100 with HDMI 1.4a (as per NAD's website). Is this a mistake or do they have multiple flavors of VM100 cards - confusing!

I guessing it's a mistake and it's the vm150 card. If they say it has 3 hdmi inputs and 2 outputs then it's a vm150. Not sure if you could update the vm100 to 1.4a?
post #3531 of 4288
i have a original T765 (no cards) will i gain any sound upgrade if im not using HDMI . i only have 2 toslink from TV and roku and connecting blue-ray via EXT analog
post #3532 of 4288
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Originally Posted by Phil Tomaskovic View Post

I guessing it's a mistake and it's the vm150 card. If they say it has 3 hdmi inputs and 2 outputs then it's a vm150. Not sure if you could update the vm100 to 1.4a?

AFter looking at the 775HD2 specs again, I see where they talk about a VM100 1.4 3D card. So I emailed NAD to find out if they are selling this newer VM100 card as an update also and what if any are the differences between it and the vm150 (other than subbing 1 input for an extra output in the vm150). Also maybe only the vm150 will work with the vm150x. Anyways if video processing is the same, I'll take the vm100 with 4 inputs (and $200 less) over the vm150. I'll post when I hear a reply.
post #3533 of 4288
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Originally Posted by nosferatu2xlc View Post

does anyone know if a hiss noise was fixed on a new T175 units ? i have older t163 with a hiss issue not sure if it fixable or how much does it cost

There is no fix I had the same issue

I purchased the Nad T785 and its super quiet

Ken
post #3534 of 4288
I have T765HD with AM100 and vm100 now does those card decode DTS HD and Tru HD ? because i tried pink floid DTS and all i was getting is 2 ch audio.
post #3535 of 4288
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Originally Posted by nosferatu2xlc View Post

I have T765HD with AM100 and vm100 now does those card decode DTS HD and Tru HD ? because i tried pink floid DTS and all i was getting is 2 ch audio.

I think they should decode. Is the pink floyd a blu ray? How is the BR player set up tp stream?
post #3536 of 4288
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Originally Posted by Phil Tomaskovic View Post

I think they should decode. Is the pink floyd a blu ray? How is the BR player set up tp stream?

its a DTS CD. i will try to rerun the BD setup again it was showing DTS 5.1 when playing but i was only getting 2ch to the NAD . I can always used BD EXT outputs like i was using it on my previous AVR but i wanted to see if i hear any improvements between NAD decoding and pioneer 51FD internal decoding .
post #3537 of 4288
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Originally Posted by nosferatu2xlc View Post

its a DTS CD. i will try to rerun the BD setup again it was showing DTS 5.1 when playing but i was only getting 2ch to the NAD . I can always used BD EXT outputs like i was using it on my previous AVR but i wanted to see if i hear any improvements between NAD decoding and pioneer 51FD internal decoding .

FTS CD is different than the HD formats. So if you want NAD to decode, the player should be bitstreaming, then you might want to look on the NAD settings. Look at Liotening Mode Setup->Listening Modes. See if DTS has None for its value.
post #3538 of 4288
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Originally Posted by Phil Tomaskovic View Post
FTS CD is different than the HD formats. So if you want NAD to decode, the player should be bitstreaming, then you might want to look on the NAD settings. Look at Liotening Mode Setup->Listening Modes. See if DTS has None for its value.


thank you i got it to work .
post #3539 of 4288
Can the T775HD apply 7.1 Dolby PL IIx to 5.1 DTS-HD-Ma or 5.1 Dolby THD? How about PCM 5.1. I am trying to get my rear backs to get more use since most lossless content is still 5.1.
post #3540 of 4288
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Originally Posted by bommai View Post

Can the T775HD apply 7.1 Dolby PL IIx to 5.1 DTS-HD-Ma or 5.1 Dolby THD? How about PCM 5.1. I am trying to get my rear backs to get more use since most lossless content is still 5.1.

Bump. I don't think it can do Dolby PL IIx 7.1 using a 5.1 DTS-HD-Ma but it might do it using 5.1 PCM. I will check tonight.
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