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post #4081 of 4166
1/20/13 at 8:05am
I have NAD T785. Is it possible to install AM/VM 200 cards by myself? If so, where can i find instructions?
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post #4082 of 4166
1/20/13 at 9:28am
I just replaced my VM 200 with a VM 150 myself. Not very complicated.
If you need a VM 200, I have one for sale.
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post #4083 of 4166
1/20/13 at 10:23am
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Originally Posted by Mungam View Post

I just replaced my VM 200 with a VM 150 myself. Not very complicated.
If you need a VM 200, I have one for sale.
Do instructions come with a card?


Are there any step by step how-to change cards and update firmware on the forums?
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post #4084 of 4166
1/20/13 at 10:40am
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Originally Posted by skyseer View Post

Do instructions come with a card?


Are there any step by step how-to change cards and update firmware on the forums?
Unfortunately the card comes without instructions for the installation. The firmware comes with update instructions.
the biggest problem with the installation is to figure out which screw/spacer has to go where.
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post #4085 of 4166
1/20/13 at 2:15pm
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Originally Posted by Phil Tomaskovic View Post

You got your Sony to do ARC with Nad? What Sony model? How did you setup the tv and NAD? I have the Sony 929 and it can't detect the Nad over the hdmi. Thanks

Hi Phil... no I have the VM100 module in my T775HD so it doesn't support ARC. I believe the VM150 does, as it is HDMI V1.4 compatible. I had to run a TOSLINK cable, so I can't control volume through the TV or have it sense the External Audio Support. But it isn't a big issue because I basically manually select whether I want to listen to my TV through the AV system and select it. I have my TV programmed into the HTR3 Remote (man this thing is slick), so it's real easy for me to select what I need from the AV Remote.
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post #4086 of 4166
1/20/13 at 2:27pm
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guys i'm seriously contemplating getting the NAD T757 / T777 or a Pioneer SC 68. I had a question for NAD avr owners. What made you choose the NAD avr over another brand avr ?

Absolutely agree with CYE and Bill.... Rana, you will not find a more musically oriented AVR in the market at this price point or even way beyond it!
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post #4087 of 4166
1/20/13 at 2:27pm
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guys i'm seriously contemplating getting the NAD T757 / T777 or a Pioneer SC 68. I had a question for NAD avr owners. What made you choose the NAD avr over another brand avr ?

Absolutely agree with CYE and Bill.... Rana, you will not find a more musically oriented AVR in the market at this price point or even way beyond it!

Edit: Weird, don't know why this double posted!

And yes Bill, do the Audyssey setup ASAP. It DOES make all the difference!
Edited by SimplySound - 1/20/13 at 2:37pm
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post #4088 of 4166
1/20/13 at 10:11pm
so when NAD owners say that is a musically oriented AVR do they mean it's better suited for music than movies ? In what ways being a Musically oriented AVR help with it's performance for Movies ? Could someone help me understand this better...
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post #4089 of 4166
1/21/13 at 5:53am
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so when NAD owners say that is a musically oriented AVR do they mean it's better suited for music than movies ? In what ways being a Musically oriented AVR help with it's performance for Movies ? Could someone help me understand this better...

The fact that NAD AVRs are good with music in no way impacts on their ability to handle multi-channel formats. The best thing to do is get yourself a demo and preferably a side-by-side with some other brands and run through some music and surround material that you're familiar with - I think you'll find the difference isn't subtle. smile.gif
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post #4090 of 4166
1/21/13 at 7:27am
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Originally Posted by CYE View Post

The fact that NAD AVRs are good with music in no way impacts on their ability to handle multi-channel formats. The best thing to do is get yourself a demo and preferably a side-by-side with some other brands and run through some music and surround material that you're familiar with - I think you'll find the difference isn't subtle. smile.gif

What he said!

I think it's one of those things where you don't know what's missing until you hear it. I owned a Marantz SR6006... thought it was great. Fortunately, I had heard a demo of an NAD T765 compared to a Denon and it was night and day. So I vowed to one day get an NAD. When I finally could afford one and swapped out the Marantz from my system, the NAD took me to a whole other level of entertainment.

So, it will not only "musically" improve your system, it will amplify the entertainment from HT! Not trying to be a Fanboi... it's just reality! wink.gif
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post #4091 of 4166
1/21/13 at 11:01am
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Originally Posted by rana_kirti View Post

so when NAD owners say that is a musically oriented AVR do they mean it's better suited for music than movies ? In what ways being a Musically oriented AVR help with it's performance for Movies ? Could someone help me understand this better...

I agree with everyone's comments. NAD has always put an emphasis on more "bang for your buck" in terms of focusing on the quality of the sound produced than on looks or lots of bells and whistles. Ever since they started selling their 2-channel amps back in the day, their equipment is consistently reviewed as sounding as "good or better than" other components much more expensive. (Note this is reviews...not just company slogan.) It depends on what you use your A/V receiver for, but I use mine for both music and movies and the NAD T775 handles both with ease. I like the fact that when you match it with good speakers it creates a great soundstage, with depth, for the music and that also works well for movies where quiet, subtle, sound is important...but it can also handle your typical action movie with great sound. (Before my NAD T775 I had a 2-channel NAD 3020 amp for 20+ years.)
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post #4092 of 4166
1/23/13 at 7:54am
Does someone know where the D/A converters are located? I'd suggest on the digital audio board (AM100 / AM 200). The question is which converters are on these boards? The original T175/775/785 had Burr-Brown chips according to the Nad specifications. For the HD version and the new receivers (T777/787) which have the AM200 built in they don't mention a manufacturer. But they say that the T187 pre/pro does have a Burr-Brown chip. Does the T187 have a different audio board installed?
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post #4093 of 4166
1/27/13 at 7:46am
Does anyone know, can I upgrade only audio board to AM200 and leave old non-hd video board on T785?
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post #4094 of 4166
1/27/13 at 8:24am
I don't think so. I believe am200 needs at least vm100.
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post #4095 of 4166
1/27/13 at 4:24pm
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Originally Posted by skyseer View Post

Does anyone know, can I upgrade only audio board to AM200 and leave old non-hd video board on T785?
IMHO it is possible. The video board splits audio and video, I think it doesn't matter if it receives HD audio.
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post #4096 of 4166
2/3/13 at 12:23am
Guys,

Unfortunately, I've had to get a refund on my unit. I'm now looking at the Anthem receiver lineup - have any NAD owners heard any of their MRX range, and if so, what did you make of them?
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post #4097 of 4166
2/3/13 at 1:47pm
For the AM200 card you must have at least the VM100.
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post #4098 of 4166
2/9/13 at 11:10pm
pardon me if my question is beyond the scope of the thread but is anyone aware of a AV Dealer in NYC who carries both NAD & Pioneer AVRs so i can do a direct comparison between the two.
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post #4099 of 4166
2/10/13 at 11:05pm
Just for a variation: I've had no end of trouble with a T785.

The fans started making noise. They got replaced under warranty.

Then it happened again. Replaced again.

The center channel started having fits and pops. Burned tracks say the repairer. Fixed under warranty.

Then the fans failed again. Replaced with better fans (out of warranty). No problems with the fans since.

Then the RHS rear channel started having the same fits and pops the center hand. Burned tracks say the repairer. Fixed out of warranty at enormous cost.

Lovely receiver but unreliable. That's just my experience. I bought it in late 2008. I simply expected better. It hasn't had to work hard as it's pushing a full Klipsch Heritage HT, so probably 1-15W per channel at the most for ear splitting volume 99% of the time...
Edited by laager - 2/10/13 at 11:13pm
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post #4100 of 4166
2/11/13 at 3:13am
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Originally Posted by laager View Post

Just for a variation: I've had no end of trouble with a T785.

The fans started making noise. They got replaced under warranty.

Then it happened again. Replaced again.

The center channel started having fits and pops. Burned tracks say the repairer. Fixed under warranty.

Then the fans failed again. Replaced with better fans (out of warranty). No problems with the fans since.

Then the RHS rear channel started having the same fits and pops the center hand. Burned tracks say the repairer. Fixed out of warranty at enormous cost.

Lovely receiver but unreliable. That's just my experience. I bought it in late 2008. I simply expected better. It hasn't had to work hard as it's pushing a full Klipsch Heritage HT, so probably 1-15W per channel at the most for ear splitting volume 99% of the time...

Sorry! But what do You mean with Burned tracks? Tracks on a CD??
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post #4101 of 4166
2/11/13 at 11:25am
Issue with flickering Xbox 360.

Hi all,

Have any of you had an issue with the xbox 360 flickering or blanking when you turn it on. Here is what is happening with my t775.

Issue 1 (order of turning on the components sometimes causes blank screen)
I use a harmony 900 remote to turn on my tv, receiver and xbox 360. When I turn it on the order I have set is TV, Nad receiver and then xbox 360. Frequently however when I turn on the xbox 360 activity and everything turns on but the picture on the xbox stays black even though sound comes through fine. I think this may have to do with the order of turning it on, and maybe the NAD receiver needs to be on before the xbox 360 turns on. Usually I try it again and it works out. Let me know if you guys have experienced the same thing and what you did to resolve it.

Issue 2 (xbox flickers occasionally on the dashboard)
The issue I am having is that the xbox 360 flickers occasionally when it is on the dashboard. The interesting thing is that it stops flickering completely when I play a movie either through Netflix or HBOGO and it works perfectly. I have tried replacing my cables and that didn't do the trick. I'll try hooking it up to other tvs and see if it still and issue. Just curious if anyone else ran into this issue.

Thanks all.

Harry
Edited by hairdawgg - 2/11/13 at 1:49pm
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post #4102 of 4166
2/12/13 at 8:30pm
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Originally Posted by laager View Post

Just for a variation: I've had no end of trouble with a T785.

The fans started making noise. They got replaced under warranty.

Then it happened again. Replaced again.

The center channel started having fits and pops. Burned tracks say the repairer. Fixed under warranty.

Then the fans failed again. Replaced with better fans (out of warranty). No problems with the fans since.

Then the RHS rear channel started having the same fits and pops the center hand. Burned tracks say the repairer. Fixed out of warranty at enormous cost.

Lovely receiver but unreliable. That's just my experience. I bought it in late 2008. I simply expected better. It hasn't had to work hard as it's pushing a full Klipsch Heritage HT, so probably 1-15W per channel at the most for ear splitting volume 99% of the time...

With that many problems, I would have urged NAD to use the Lemon Law and give you a new replacement unit instead of repairing. Obviously, the unit was beyond repair. Fortunately, my T775HD is working wonderfully except for a few software issues that have been addressed by NAD over the past 18 months.
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post #4103 of 4166
2/15/13 at 6:03pm
Hi everyone, new here, been reading most of this thread. I was wondering if any one has any pre-owned MDC modules for sale, I am specfically looking for the Audio module. I have a T785 w/o hdmi audio, as it stoped working. When looking into the firmware for it's number it lists nothing- so I am assuming that the card is bad. Also my sub outputs no longer function either, all be it, all of the analog channels work fine (except sub outs) Video passes fine thru hdmi- just no sound. I cant seem to find a db9 cable so I can attempt to reload the firm ware- shssh technology changes so fast. What was NAD thinking- all this and no USB port or ethernet port(s)? Also the Digital indicator on the front panel just flashes when in digital mode.

Thanks in advance wink.gif

Kodi
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post #4104 of 4166
2/21/13 at 11:24am
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Originally Posted by hairdawgg View Post

Issue with flickering Xbox 360.

Hi all,

Have any of you had an issue with the xbox 360 flickering or blanking when you turn it on. Here is what is happening with my t775.

Issue 1 (order of turning on the components sometimes causes blank screen)
I use a harmony 900 remote to turn on my tv, receiver and xbox 360. When I turn it on the order I have set is TV, Nad receiver and then xbox 360. Frequently however when I turn on the xbox 360 activity and everything turns on but the picture on the xbox stays black even though sound comes through fine. I think this may have to do with the order of turning it on, and maybe the NAD receiver needs to be on before the xbox 360 turns on. Usually I try it again and it works out. Let me know if you guys have experienced the same thing and what you did to resolve it.

Issue 2 (xbox flickers occasionally on the dashboard)
The issue I am having is that the xbox 360 flickers occasionally when it is on the dashboard. The interesting thing is that it stops flickering completely when I play a movie either through Netflix or HBOGO and it works perfectly. I have tried replacing my cables and that didn't do the trick. I'll try hooking it up to other tvs and see if it still and issue. Just curious if anyone else ran into this issue.

Thanks all.

Harry

An update on this. Both of these issues seem to be tied to timing. Something with the XBOX starting up before the NAD T775 will make it flicker. The solve for this in case anyone else runs into this same problem is to change the Harmony setting for the XBOX 360 to have "Inter device delay" to be around 6 seconds or so. That solves my issue by having the XBOX waiting 6 seconds after another device has issued a command, which ensures that the NAD T775 is always on and set to right input before the XBOX 360 turns on. The downside is you have to wait longer to turn on and off your XBOX 360 but it's better than the alternative of no picture or flickering picture.

Thanks all,

Harry
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post #4105 of 4166
2/21/13 at 12:55pm
Unfortunately, I need to send in my T775HD for repair (under warranty). The problem I am having is no video output.

Bob Moran gave me the names of 3 service centers on the west coast. Does anyone have experience with any of these service centers and would you recommend one over the others?

Inner Sound Portland OR
Henry Radio Los Angeles CA
Northridge Electronics Simi Valley CA

Thanks!
Kent
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post #4106 of 4166
2/22/13 at 8:59am
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Originally Posted by bommai View Post

With that many problems, I would have urged NAD to use the Lemon Law and give you a new replacement unit instead of repairing. Obviously, the unit was beyond repair. Fortunately, my T775HD is working wonderfully except for a few software issues that have been addressed by NAD over the past 18 months.

I know many have had issues with their NAD AVR's, but I'm fortunately in the same boot as Bommai. I haven't had a single issue with my T775HD for the last 2 months I've been running it. Thanks to folks on this board, I am FW updated to V1.38 and I have been rocking well.

CYE, I assume you had to return your unit because of "Fan Issues"? Seems that may be a long term issue, but I have been real fortunate there. Like I said, mine runs quiet as can be (probably have jinxed myself now)! I wonder if there is a way to access the fans and maybe put a touch of macine oil on the bearings from time to time?

Now if NAD would just upgrade the VM150 expansion card so that you could really access the internet, I would be thrilled! wink.gif
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post #4107 of 4166
2/22/13 at 1:40pm
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Originally Posted by kentd98 View Post

Unfortunately, I need to send in my T775HD for repair (under warranty). The problem I am having is no video output.

Bob Moran gave me the names of 3 service centers on the west coast. Does anyone have experience with any of these service centers and would you recommend one over the others?

Inner Sound Portland OR
Henry Radio Los Angeles CA
Northridge Electronics Simi Valley CA

Thanks!
Kent
Alan at Henry Radio did a good job replacing the fans on my T775.
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post #4108 of 4166
2/22/13 at 11:03pm
Just got my new T787 installed in my HT.
Sounds better than my previous 5 year old T785HD.
I started to have audio drop outs and never found out what was wrong.

The firmware installed on the T787 is v1.37 , DSP:v1.04b, Video v1.06.
Does anyone know what's changed in 1.38 incl. DSP: v1.05b ?
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post #4109 of 4166
2/26/13 at 7:38pm
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Originally Posted by fiske View Post

Just got my new T787 installed in my HT.
Sounds better than my previous 5 year old T785HD.
I started to have audio drop outs and never found out what was wrong.

The firmware installed on the T787 is v1.37 , DSP:v1.04b, Video v1.06.
Does anyone know what's changed in 1.38 incl. DSP: v1.05b ?
Why? How is this possible. It's the same reciever with a face lift. Uses the same MDC cards and same amplifer section. All the reviews state this to be true. Unless you had and older 785 with 100 series cards. Were you loosing digital audio with your previous reciever? I am.
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post #4110 of 4166
2/26/13 at 10:18pm
My T785HD had the AM200 and VM200. When I started having issues with drop-outs and needed to send it for repair I also changed the VM200 for the VM150 and VM150x card.
When received the problem was that the Audio drop had not been fixed even though it was claimed to have been checked and found OK. Since then it's been going back and forth to the service office 3 times since November.
They never managed to find the fault. The last time they had reversed the DSP from 1.05b to 1.04b, and it was better. But for SACD and DVD-Audio's it was easy to replicate the audio drop-out fault at my side.
The new T787 has not had a glitch of problem and it sounds better with less fan noise than my previous T785. So somewhere something didn't work as expected inside my old T785.
And yes it should be more or less the same AVR . The T787 is really a joy. A powerhouse and a very nice sounding powerhouse.

Technology. Fun when it works and not so when it doesn't. The AVR is the heart of everything in my setup and just needs to work.
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