*Official* Epson PowerLite Home Cinema 1080 *UB* - Page 3

I realize this projector does 'deep black' but is that, and if not, can it output 'true black?'

at $4000 I know I will. That makes me I was very excited.

I was planning to see this before I bought one anyway, but if it's going to cost over $2700 (or at the very most $3000), then I'll probably get an Optoma HD80 or something equivilent instead.

I've owned 6 projectors over the last 10 years (3 LCD and 3 DLP) and while each technology has advantages and disadvantages over the other, I really prefer DLP for overall picture quality.

Of course I strongly prefer the flexibility of LCD. If this Epson was only going to cost around $2500 or so and have great black levels, I was going to be very interested in it. Now I'm not so sure.

I'm not planning to make a purchase until around the end of the year anyway, so hopefully it will all work out.

Hey Jones_Rush,

I know this is not the right thread to discuss this in, but is the HD80 currently available for around $2200? I knew you could get one for quite a bit less than $2699, but I didn't realize it had gone quite the low yet.

I bet by Christmas, there will be more than one 1080p projector available for around $2000 or even a bit under.

Thankfully I hardly ever see rainbows and I need a long range zoom.

That being said, If the Epson ends up being affordable and comes close to living up to it's spec's I'd opt for that instead.

If true, then forget the Epson. I'll get a JVC RS1.

I'm really happy with my HC1080 but I've been thinking about selling it and upgrading to a Black Pearl or another one of the new 1080p's coming out this winter. Now it looks like I'll have to dump it sooner than I thought. I'm still skeptical about the contrast ratio though and I think I'll be holding off on a preorder until people get a chance to see it in action. I have a hard time believing an LCD can outperform LCOS or DLP but if that turns out to be the case then I definitely wouldn't mind spending a little more than $3000.

I was prepared to delay my projector purchase til Dec...now if the price jumps I'll `settle' the the 400...Guess their taking the coward's way out.

Well she says approx. $3500 Euro when asked how much it would cost and that would put it close to $5k American dollars. Yuck. I'm no longer excited.

I just read a new post on Gizmodo that says that Epson confirmed the $2700 price point, or at least that is the way the update reads. That is awesome news if that is correct.

Check it out:
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/epson-pow...inema-1080-ub/

I have a hard time believing the big wigs at Epson were totally clueless on what would happen with Panasonic ,etc when they announced the new 1080. I'm sure the `price recall' has more to it than what we're assuming...

The Epson rep. on this video says the price on the TW2000 will be 3500 EUR or about $4800 U.S. Dollars! Thread should be closed and opened on the $3000+ forum. $4800 is WAY too much for my budget. Crossing it off my list. Too bad. It looked good.

Epson would never admit this is what is going on, because if that were the reason the price goes up, then it's illegal.

Someone ought to pick up the phone and call the DOJ Antitrust Division. To be both a component supplier and a competitor, and then to have reactive price fixing based on your customer/competitor's wishes? That's a Sherman Act violation if I ever saw one. The Bush DOJ has been slow to get involved with anything that looks related to retail price control, but this has an element of competitor price fixing, too.

These companies may do this stuff all the time, but I assure you it is very dangerous and often results in multi-million dollar fines.

Had this epson on my short list - and who wouldn't? - but if they jack the price...HD80 for me....


memo to Epson, either a vendor or a supplier be...

sub-memo, get bent

It does NOT have 2.35:1 CIH build-in. Have to pay 3K for the Silicon Optics external video processor. No go for me.

Aren't we talking MSRP here?

The prices between the U.S. and Europe don't work that way. You can't simply convert via exchange rates.

If you're gonna say this, at least mention the source of the information.


Yes, it usually works out to 1:1. Still above $3000, if the price is accurate.

Yes

a lot of taxes in europe.

for example in Spain:

Taxes:
-customs tariffs 20%
- VAT: 16%

And Spain don't have bigger taxes in Europe.

ROTF-LMAO. This is great stuff!! Call the Dept of Justice! Get bent Epson! Conspiracies everywhere!!

I wonder if Epson might want to delay pricing announcements for a projector that won't hit the streets for three months in a market where prices change weekly?

Thanks for the good Friday morning entertainment gents!

Here you go:
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/cedia07/e...rld-297157.php

We got a close-up look at the Epson Powerlite Home Cinema 1080 UB projector we scooped for you the other day, the cheapest 1080p projector in the world at an unofficial $2699 (but that might not be the exact number, according to Epson). Epson added a new chipset that raised its native (not dynamic) contrast ratio to 5000:1. We got an eyes-on demo, and liked what we saw. And check out that wild-ass attachment hanging on its front.

The blacks were even blacker than the Epson Powerlite that we already really liked, and the sharpness of this projector at its full 1080p was remarkable.

Making matters even more interesting was the $5000 anamorphic lens attached to this baby (see gallery), stretching the video out to a positively cinematic 2.35:1 aspect ratio. To get it there, you must have special squished anamorphic content, and to really do it right, you need the Silicon Optics external video processor (for another $3K), stretching everything out cleanly with no distortion.

Yikes, that's a total price of over $10K, but who said getting a picture that's better than your local cineplex was going to be cheap? Still, it's the lowest price for a setup like this we've seen, and worth it.