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Another Ridley Scott Pronouncement: Internet Killing Cinema

post #1 of 23
9/5/07 at 9:08am
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http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/uk.cfm?id=1399142007

This time, it's not just scifi that's dying -- the entire cinematic experience is dying according to our favourite sage.

(Can anyone explain the term "losing wicket" to me?)
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post #2 of 23
9/5/07 at 11:08am
Once again, Ridley proves that it's his brain cells and career that are deader than whatever he's whining about.
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post #3 of 23
9/5/07 at 11:49am
meanwhile he forgets that the exact experience he's defending is quickly becoming more and more a reality in peoples own homes.
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post #4 of 23
9/5/07 at 12:42pm
oooooooooooookkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk, Ridley, please take your meds.
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post #5 of 23
9/5/07 at 12:44pm
Without the damn internet I'd never known he said this, ironic.
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post #6 of 23
9/5/07 at 12:57pm
Occasionally, I will go to a theater because of the bigger screen (though it is nothing compared to the truly big screens that theaters had when I was young.) I have never heard an audio system in a theater that could hold a candle to my HT, however.
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post #7 of 23
9/5/07 at 5:15pm
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Originally Posted by PULLIAMM View Post

Occasionally, I will go to a theater because of the bigger screen (though it is nothing compared to the truly big screens that theaters had when I was young.) I have never heard an audio system in a theater that could hold a candle to my HT, however.

Yep - My locals have big SPL, but the center sounds like a bullhorn and balance is whatever settings happened during some blunt break. A blown subwoofer can go on for months. I gave up. DVD day IS release day.

It's a far cry from the old days, when the seats were plush, people were quiet and the presentation was worth the money.

The internet has little to do with the same movies being made over and over. People support the practice by showing up to see the SOS.
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post #8 of 23
9/5/07 at 5:49pm
Small screens aren't killing cinema in nearly the same way iPods might be said to be killing music- from a production standpoint anyway. One could easily argue that devices like the iPod along with the Net are spurring a real boom in young people being able to experience music "out of the box", that is, listening to a lot of really diverse unusual stuff. They're just consuming it in small chunks compressed at a 128 khz bitrate *lol*

But yeah, if anything the consumer is more interested in having a quality presentation of film than ever before; they just want it at home. I think Ridley should be thrilled that many more of us are getting to watch his stuff on a 16x9 screen at a decent quality, many of us in HD on 90"+ screens- at home. Screw the theater.
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post #9 of 23
9/5/07 at 9:49pm
After reading the article, it is obvious what he is talking...and it ain't about people like us that have dedicated HTs.
It is about is about the barbarians (you know who I am talking about).
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post #10 of 23
9/5/07 at 11:35pm
Spot on Ridley.

Cinema is original, television isn't.
David Lean

I recently went back to the cinema after 2 years absence but it wasn't just any ole cinema this was the famous Empire Leicester cinema at London's west end and seeing a film projected up on one of the largest THX screens in London was spectacular the image was reinforced with the new state of the art custom JBL sound system that boasts a staggering 56KW all THX certified reverberation from what I understand was lowered with special treatment as well.

So cinema in my humble opinion can not be beaten, you can try within the confines of your own home or LOL basement but it would never ever equal the atmosphere of large cinema auditorium.













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post #11 of 23
9/5/07 at 11:36pm








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post #12 of 23
9/5/07 at 11:40pm
This after another record box office summer...

You see, this is the problem with the people in the industry - for some reason I just don't comprehend they insist on looking at it completely bass-ackwards. Watching movies on computers, cell phones and at home isn't destroying the cinema experience, it's providing a new market for films. If these folks would simply realize this they'd see what a golden opportunity it is.

...and if they'd actually pay a little attention to the complaints of theatre-goers, they'd realize that it's the theatres themselves (noisy, blurry, dim, etc. etc. presentations) that's killing the cinema experience.

But no, they're too afraid of change... I guess someone else is going to come along and seize the opportunity from them, just as Apple is doing in the music industry.
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post #13 of 23
9/5/07 at 11:42pm
Once upon a time, people decried movies for destroying the reading of books. Then television was said to be destroying movies - and I suppose that having free TV did reduce box office receipts. Now we hear Hollowood types talking about video games, the internet, PDAs, etc. These things in fact do reduce box office by giving people other options for spending time and money.

Feel sorry for the poor Hollowood millionaires who are seeing business decline. Damn, now they are gonna have to compete for our dollars. Poor millionaires.
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post #14 of 23
9/5/07 at 11:44pm
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Originally Posted by Sean Nelson View Post

This after another record box office summer...

You see, this is the problem with the people in the industry - for some reason I just don't comprehend they insist on looking at it completely bass-ackwards. Watching movies on computers, cell phones and at home isn't destroying the cinema experience, it's providing a new market for films. If these folks would simply realize this they'd see what a golden opportunity it is.

...and if they'd actually pay a little attention to the complaints of theatre-goers, they'd realize that it's the theatres themselves (noisy, blurry, dim, etc. etc. presentations) that's killing the cinema experience.

But no, they're too afraid of change... I guess someone else is going to come along and seize the opportunity from them, just as Apple is doing in the music industry.

LOL you'd never find that at the Empire, it's got more sound power than 100 LOL basement home cinemas put together!
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post #15 of 23
9/6/07 at 5:25am
Wow- maybe the pictures don't do it justice but that place looks like a hideous cinder block high school gym that someone tried to dress up with neon. Appalling. I'm glad it's big and all but REAL movie palaces of the past had atmosphere and class.
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post #16 of 23
9/6/07 at 9:49am
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Originally Posted by FredProgGH View Post

Wow- maybe the pictures don't do it justice but that place looks like a hideous cinder block high school gym that someone tried to dress up with neon. Appalling. I'm glad it's big and all but REAL movie palaces of the past had atmosphere and class.

Wouldn't those tiled walls also cause a reverb nightmare?
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post #17 of 23
9/6/07 at 10:11am
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Originally Posted by FredProgGH View Post

Wow- maybe the pictures don't do it justice but that place looks like a hideous cinder block high school gym that someone tried to dress up with neon. Appalling. I'm glad it's big and all but REAL movie palaces of the past had atmosphere and class.

LOL you're just jealous because the United Kingdom has the best look and best sound THX screen!
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post #18 of 23
9/6/07 at 10:15am
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Originally Posted by Josh Z View Post

Wouldn't those tiled walls also cause a reverb nightmare?

Tell you what meet outside the Empire when they screen another action film and we can each attended and then afterwards comment on the situation, otherwise no comment.
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post #19 of 23
9/6/07 at 10:32am
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Originally Posted by JBLsound4645 View Post

LOL you're just jealous because the United Kingdom has the best look and best sound THX screen!

I don't doubt for a second that from a technical standpoint it's superb, I just can't imagine why they didn't go the last mile and give the place some aesthetics as well.
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post #20 of 23
9/6/07 at 10:44am
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Originally Posted by FredProgGH View Post

I don't doubt for a second that from a technical standpoint it's superb, I just can't imagine why they didn't go the last mile and give the place some aesthetics as well.

Well you’ve never been to the Empire, you’ve never tasted it touched it heard it felt it. I have I’ve been to this state of art cinema at least 8 times since 13th September1989 to 26th July 2007.

It was a pity like all technologies the digital projector wasn’t working for “Transformers” on 26th July 2007, but that’s why they have back-up a standard 35mm Dolby stereo SR-D print, beautiful.

So I don’t know why Ridley, is getting worried about the state of technology most of equipment is some 30 or 40 years old in some parts and still able to impress me over something that would be outdated in the home cinema world within a month and would be on the Ebay!
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post #21 of 23
9/6/07 at 11:15am
I guess you need to see the famous Empire Leicester square laser show which I've seen a few times. Thou this was filmed on video camera many years ago it would look slightly better if you raise the brightness on the pc monitor and a little bit on the contrast. Hope you enjoy it.



Empire laser show
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQivA1_ajrg&
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post #22 of 23
9/6/07 at 4:18pm
Well, I do like the screen curtains. That's a nice touch that you never see in most theaters any more.
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post #23 of 23
9/6/07 at 6:26pm
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Originally Posted by JBLsound4645 View Post

Well you've never been to the Empire...
...I don't know why Ridley, is getting worried about the state of technology

Exactly because most of us haven't been to the Empire and don't have a similar, quality venue that we can get to.
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