I like a good debate on an interesting topic, thanks.
Originally Posted by HeadRusch
Think you've missed my point: He's in a bedroom....he puts any speakers at 70db and his parents will be breaking down his door to throttle him
Cheap or expensive.
I agree with the idea that he will not likely play the system loudly. But I would greatly miss having better sounding speakers at any volume. It could be that the OP would appreciate the better sound less than I. If he has any opportunity to hear nice speakers (go to tweeter, or magnolia in Best Buy, or a dedicated audio store) he could get an idea of what he would be missing instead of assuming it is not important. In my experience, visitors to my home have been more impressed by the audio when showing off my home theater than by the video.does he have light control in the room?
The other linked-to threads show a room with no more than one window. Light control should be easy!What about mounting options?
As I suggested, a shelf on the opposite wall would be perfect. That might look funny in a living room, but a shelf in a bedroom is common place.At 12' how big of a screen can he go where he wont be in the light-path.
With a projector mounted about 7' up, the screen top at around 6' up, and using a 70" - 105" screen, anyone seated will be no where near in the way. Even with lower mounts, most seated positions would still be fine. But I do understand the point that some may want to be up and about while they play (nintendo Wii comes to mind!). A projector would not be good for Wii usage due to this. How tall are his ceilings?
Should not matter with a shelf-type projector mount.Is he prepared to eat the cost of replacement bulbs at $300+ each......??
This is the exact same concern with a LCD or DLP type rear projection TV as he mentioned in his original post. Those use bulbs that last exactly the same as a front projector. If he had been comparing to direct-view LCD or Plasma, then that would certainly be a difference. But there is no way for him to get a 56+" direct view in the price range he is limited to.is he prepared to run cables to the projector, etc.
Minor concern, since he can put the equipment near the projector. But I concede that he would need to plan. I feel for any TV + audio system setup, planning makes it work better.Can he handle the fluctuations in brightness that can happen with a PJ as its bulb ages.....and so on and so on.
DLP and LCD rear projection TVs are identical in this concern.12' is not alot of space for a PJ.
It is every bit as much room as is needed for a fairly large screen! I browsed through many models of projectors and found none that 12' was too short a throw for a 90+" screen. There quite possibly are a few that would require a larger throw, but I did not find them. And the projector unit itself is very small, much smaller and less space consuming than a rear-projection TV. I would claim that a 12' room is better suited to a projector due to space concerns instead of worse. Does he know he can't turn a PJ on and off like a TV if you want to get bulb life out of it....hell I turn my CRT set on and off a dozen times or more in an afternoon.....etc.
All the various bulb-based solutions should not be turned on and off repeatably. This includes the rear-projection DLP the OP mentioned.And at 720p you need to take into account screendoor, even with a DLP, or are you assuming he can sit all the way back in his room...or does he shrink down the size until, well, he may as well have a big flat panel unit.
Good point. It all depends on the quality of projector, and how far in his room he can sit as to the noticability of the screendoor effect. I assume he would want to sit in the 9'-12' range, no matter what TV he purchases.You again assume a 12' room allows him to sit on the back wall. You need to ask more questions before you go suggesting ideas that may not work out for him in the end.
He seems to be a think-before-you-buy type, based on his planning this purchase by asking questions over the last few months from opinionated experts on this forum.
So I figure we should make suggestions, and he will ask additional questions to fill in the holes in his knowledge.He'll also likely need a screen.
Screens are optional, and there are some very good DIY solutions in the appropriate section on AVS. I like having a very good screen, but the better DIY screens are almost as good and can be sized to be exactly what you need for only $50-$100. In the mean-time, projecting on the white walls in his room will be acceptable.
Sorry for the long post, but I wanted to keep everything easy to read and in order.