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post #181 of 724
I don't know the specs of the new Marantz but I would not expect it to sound appreciably different than the 9600.
FWIW, I thought the 9600 was a nice player soundwise.
post #182 of 724
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Originally Posted by Milt99 View Post

I don't know the specs of the new Marantz but I would not expect it to sound appreciably different than the 9600.
FWIW, I thought the 9600 was a nice player soundwise.

On SACD it sounded fine,but with RB with my JM Labs Alto Be it seemed alitte too thin and etched-not enough 'bloom".It might of been just a bad system match.I ight just keep the BD5000 for video and get a Raysonic CD 228 for serious audio listening.
post #183 of 724
I noticed that the manuals have been posted for the Av8003 and mm8003 on the US site.

But they still have not posted any manuals for the BD8002.
post #184 of 724
Detailed specs are now listed on the site for the 8002.
post #185 of 724
For a $2k player not to have a separate power supply for audio is total crap!

Cd
post #186 of 724
Well, it is a Denon. No DTS HR or DD+ LPCM (according to the site).
post #187 of 724
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Originally Posted by gary cornell View Post

Detailed specs are now listed on the site for the 8002.

I have been following this thread since I am looking for a Blu-ray player that will internally decode all the advanced audio codecs. It states on the Marantz web site that this player will decode Dolby True HD and DTS HD Master but does not mention any thing about decoding the intermediate audio codecs like Dolby Digital plus and DTS HD. This is what I didn't like about the new Denon 3800 Blu-ray player. Has it been confirmed what upconverting technology for SDVD's is going to in this player? I read somewhere that it was going to be the Realta like the Denon player but than I read it was going to be Anchor Bay. I was also hoping it was going to have the Burr Brown 1796 DAC like the Denon blu-ray player does any one know about this?
post #188 of 724
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Originally Posted by mt14942 View Post

I have been following this thread since I am looking for a Blu-ray player that will internally decode all the advanced audio codecs. It states on the Marantz web site that this player will decode Dolby True HD and DTS HD Master but does not mention any thing about decoding the intermediate audio codecs like Dolby Digital plus and DTS HD. This is what I didn't like about the new Denon 3800 Blu-ray player. Has it been confirmed what upconverting technology for SDVD's is going to in this player? I read somewhere that it was going to be the Realta like the Denon player but than I read it was going to be Anchor Bay. I was also hoping it was going to have the Burr Brown 1796 DAC like the Denon blu-ray player does any one know about this?

if u chk the site it does say it uses the Realta and i don't see why it wouldn't use the burr brown also ...

http://us.marantz.com/MarantzBD8002B...se08-FINAL.pdf
post #189 of 724
Hello Everyone,

I need your help to figure out the settings of 7.1 analog out of this blu ray player. I will connect the player to Marantz receiver SR8001 and I would like to know if I need to do the adjustments in the player, in the receiver, or in both components. If the settings need to be done in player only, will I leave all values in receiver in "0" for 7.1 in?
Thanks
post #190 of 724
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Originally Posted by StanVlna View Post

Hello Everyone,

I need your help to figure out the settings of 7.1 analog out of this blu ray player. I will connect the player to Marantz receiver SR8001 and I would like to know if I need to do the adjustments in the player, in the receiver, or in both components. If the settings need to be done in player only, will I leave all values in receiver in "0" for 7.1 in?
Thanks

Yes, I have similar questions. I will be connecting the BD8002 to my SR9600 initially. I will use the 7.1 analog out for audio and was going to connect the HDMI from the BD player directly to the TV (Sony 52XBR4) for video. What would be appropriate settings in BD player, TV and SR9600? Any advice, suggestions appreciated. I will play both BD and SD disks so will want to take advantace of the video upscaling and of course get full 5.1 and/or 7.1 uncompressed and DTS HD Master and/or DD True HD whenever available.
post #191 of 724
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Originally Posted by awre View Post

Yes, I have similar questions. I will be connecting the BD8002 to my SR9600 initially. I will use the 7.1 analog out for audio and was going to connect the HDMI from the BD player directly to the TV (Sony 52XBR4) for video. What would be appropriate settings in BD player, TV and SR9600? Any advice, suggestions appreciated. I will play both BD and SD disks so will want to take advantace of the video upscaling and of course get full 5.1 and/or 7.1 uncompressed and DTS HD Master and/or DD True HD whenever available.

I e-mailed Marantz with the same question and the answer was that the adjustments should be done in receiver. Hope it helps.
post #192 of 724
Instructions manual was just posted on Marantz web side
post #193 of 724
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Originally Posted by StanVlna View Post

Instructions manual was just posted on Marantz web side


SAw it. DTS HD goes to DTS> and DD+> DD

Identical to the Denon.
post #194 of 724
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Originally Posted by thebland View Post

SAw it. DTS HD goes to DTS> and DD+> DD

Identical to the Denon.

After quick glance at the manual it looks like this player will do DTS HD & DTS HD Master where as the Denon player only does DTS HD Master audio. Has anybody been able to confirm that. Are they using the same Burr Brown 1796 DAC as the Denon blu-ray player?
post #195 of 724
I see HDMI 480i is not supported. Its available on the denon.
post #196 of 724
yeah but you can stream the signal through HDMI and get the codecs from your A/V receiver , i have a sr8002 Marantz presently with HD-DVD Toshiba XA2 and i get DTSHD DTS Master Audio DD+ and Dolby True HD cause the firmware 2.8 of the Toshiba Supports Bitstream through HDMI directly to the A/V receiver
post #197 of 724
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Originally Posted by thebland View Post

SAw it. DTS HD goes to DTS> and DD+> DD

Identical to the Denon.

thebland,
Can you tell me please where did you see it in the manual? What page number is it? Because I just e-mailed Marantz about it and the answer was that this player supports all HD audio formats
Thanks
post #198 of 724
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Originally Posted by StanVlna View Post

thebland,
Can you tell me please where did you see it in the manual? What page number is it? Because I just e-mailed Marantz about it and the answer was that this player supports all HD audio formats
Thanks

It doers support all. I should have clarified. I am looking at things when the Marantz sends the formats decoded as LPCM over HDMI. For bitstream ,yes it does all. So, if your receiver is HDMI 1.3, you are good.
post #199 of 724
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Originally Posted by thebland View Post

It doers support all. I should have clarified. I am looking at things when the Marantz sends the formats decoded as LPCM over HDMI. For bitstream ,yes it does all. So, if your receiver is HDMI 1.3, you are good.

Unfortunately I will use 7.1 analog out connection. Do I still get all the HD audio formats this way as well?
post #200 of 724
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Originally Posted by StanVlna View Post

Unfortunately I will use 7.1 analog out connection. Do I still get all the HD audio formats this way as well?

I am doing same thing, that is, using 7.1 analog to my Marantz SR9600 (will have all audio and video decoding done in the BD8002) and was intending to take the video via HDMI directly to the TV (Sony XBR4). As I recall to make this work just must be sure the "settings" in the BD are set correctly for both audio and video although I am not sure what these settings should actually be to get all the HD audio formats (something about having "mixed audio" off) and the max picture quality.

If anyone knows the correct settings in the BD8002 it would be most helpful.

Finally, if using subwoofer (Def Tech Super Cube) do I need to set speakers to "small" in the SR9600?

Thanks,

Bob
post #201 of 724
Are your front speakers full frequency?
post #202 of 724
Yes, I believe so--Def Tech Mythos 1.
post #203 of 724
Any exact release date yet?
post #204 of 724
awre, while not sure specifically about your model, i have a MC12 and the guide says to set the speakers to Large if they are full frequency - nothing to do with the physical size of the speaker.
post #205 of 724
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Originally Posted by gary cornell View Post

awre, while not sure specifically about your model, i have a MC12 and the guide says to set the speakers to Large if they are full frequency - nothing to do with the physical size of the speaker.

Yes, I believe they are full frequency. I just thought I had read somewhere that setting speakers to "samall" with a separate SW is the necessary to pass the LF to the SW when using analogs. Maybe I just misinterpeted or misunderstood.

Thanks

bob


According to my dealer he is expecting his first shipment of BD8002's later this work or early next week. That was the last he heard about 10 days ago.
post #206 of 724
woot, just ordered mine!

should arrive in early july...
post #207 of 724
I talked to a Denon tech. about the decoding of the Hi Def. sound formats of the DVD 3800 BDCI. The player will decode whatever is on the Bluray disc.
post #208 of 724
After reading instructions manuals for both blu-ray players (Marantz and Denon) I have noticed that the "Advanced AL24 Processing" is not present on the Marantz player
post #209 of 724
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Originally Posted by StanVlna View Post

After reading instructions manuals for both blu-ray players (Marantz and Denon) I have noticed that the "Advanced AL24 Processing" is not present on the Marantz player

So if it doesn't use AL24, and the details say that it also does not use HDAM, i wonder what they are using.

I was planning to upgrade from my DV9600 to this player. So far they are starting to remove some of the features i have in the 9600.

I don't understand why they would be removing these features from their 'high end' blue ray player.

I hope they don't mess with the realta for the SD/dvd upconversion.

I have a pre-order with a local dealer, who also will take my 9600 as a trade in. So it works out to a good deal for me. Now I am not sure.

Unfortunately he doesn't carry Denon anymore.
post #210 of 724
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Originally Posted by adol290 View Post

So if it doesn't use AL24, and the details say that it also does not use HDAM, i wonder what they are using.

AL24 is an algorithm exclusive to Denon's products. As Jeff Talmadge from Denon mentioned a while back, while the base hardware for this Blu-ray player is the same, the two companies have different ways in utilizing it. Marantz may have their own form of audio up-sampling and data interpolation, but they are usually quiet about these type of things.
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