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post #241 of 724
ok similar

i have marantz sr8002
toshiba xa2
sharp tv
kef speakers
post #242 of 724
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Originally Posted by motogp34 View Post

Just bought my BD8002, should get it soooon !!!

I am on the fence between getting the Marantz BD8002 Blu-ray player and the Denon BD3800 Blu-ray player. They appear to be almost identical both in design and also on the features and benefits they offer. I have read on the Denon blu-ray player owners forum that the Denon player does not decode DTS HD audio but it does the higher end audio DTS HD Master audio. The Denon player does AL 24 audio processing for greater dynamic range, which is not mentioned as a feature for the Marantz player. it is my understanding is that feature only benefits cd and dvd audio play back and not Blu-ray disc play back. Any way any feed back from any of you who will be getting this Marantz unit would be greatly appreciated, specifically those who will be using the analog audio connections with the player doing the decoding of the advanced HD audio codecs like DTS HD Master audio and Dolbly True HD.
post #243 of 724
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Originally Posted by mt14942 View Post

I am on the fence between getting the Marantz BD8002 Blu-ray player and the Denon BD3800 Blu-ray player. They appear to be almost identical both in design and also on the features and benefits they offer. I have read on the Denon blu-ray player owners forum that the Denon player does not decode DTS HD audio but it does the higher end audio DTS HD Master audio. The Denon player does AL 24 audio processing for greater dynamic range, which is not mentioned as a feature for the Marantz player. it is my understanding is that feature only benefits cd and dvd audio play back and not Blu-ray disc play back. Any way any feed back from any of you who will be getting this Marantz unit would be greatly appreciated, specifically those who will be using the analog audio connections with the player doing the decoding of the advanced HD audio codecs like DTS HD Master audio and Dolbly True HD.

I will be letting my SR8002 to do all the decoding...
post #244 of 724
Equipment used.

Marantz BD8002
Marantz SR8002
Panasonic BD30
Toshiba 52LX177



I just got mine today and here are my initial observations.

Disc played: "Departed" and "3:10 to Yuma"

BD8002 audio over HDMI has handshake issues. Audio drops out every 5 -10 seconds.
The LCD display on my SR8002 receiver blanks out as the audio drops out and says "No audio".

Hooked my Panasonic back up using the same Monster 1000HD cable and
there were no audio issues!



Any new owners have any issues?

CD
post #245 of 724
Unplug all components and try again. The audio dropping is many times a symptom of a handshake not going through.. Make sure HDMI display is ON.
post #246 of 724
Ok here's an update. Unplugged the HDMI (cable also a Monster 1000HD) from SR8002 receiver to my Toshiba 52LX1777 and no audio dropouts.
So there appears to be a handshake issue with the BD8002/SR8002 Toshiba combo that is not there with the Panny BD30/SR8002 Toshiba como. Any suggestions? I like to watch Blu-ray not listen to it.

Thanks,

CD
post #247 of 724
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Originally Posted by thebland View Post

Unplug all components and try again. The audio dropping is many times a symptom of a handshake not going through.. Make sure HDMI display is ON.

Jeff what do you mean HDMI display is on? On the player?

Thanks

CD
post #248 of 724
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Originally Posted by Cattledog View Post

Jeff what do you mean HDMI display is on? On the player?

Thanks

CD

Make sure your PJ or monitor is plugged into your receiver by HDMI. This may cause a handshake issue. Unplug power and HDMI cables for a minuite to all gear (monitor/PJ, receiver, & BD player) and then replug in everything. Try again. Turn monitor on first then receiver then BD player.

Should do it. A HDMI defect is rare.
post #249 of 724
Jeff, unplugged everything for 1+ minutes. Turned on Monitor-Receiver-BD player. No luck audio, still dropping. The Panny BD30 plays perfectly...

There is obviously a handshake issue with the BD8002

CD
post #250 of 724
Ok I seem to have it solved. By turning off "Deep color" and "xvYCC" on the Toshiba 52lx177 the dropout problem stopped!

Cd
post #251 of 724
Cool!
post #252 of 724
hey there Cattledog, congrats on your purchase with the BD8002 , can you tell us your impresssions please
post #253 of 724
First impressions.

Overall the player seems solid. The main problem I have encountered is the "Handshake" problem. My Monitor is capable of "Deep Color" support but I have to turn this feature off to get a stable audio/video signal. Hopefully, it will be addressed by a firmware update.

Would I recommend this player to others...yes. The BD picture is no better than my $400 BD30. The BD30 is more stable with no "handshake" issues. The positives are upscaling of SD DVDs is superb, and the 7.1 analog out is excellent. So if you need those features it is a good buy. Maybe some other owners can chime in on their first impressions.

CD

After setting the black level to 0 (the default is 7.5) the picture now bests the BD30. The handshake issues were resolved by turning "Deep Color" off.
post #254 of 724
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Originally Posted by Cattledog View Post

First impressions.

Overall the player seems solid. The main problem I have encountered is the "Handshake" problem. My Monitor is capable of "Deep Color" support but I have to turn this feature off to get a stable audio/video signal. Hopefully, it will be addressed by a firmware update.

Would I recommend this player to others...not yet. The BD picture is no better than my $400 BD30. The BD30 is more stable with no "handshake" issues. The positives are upscaling of SD DVDs is superb, and the 7.1 analog out is excellent. So if you need those features it is a good buy. Maybe some other owners can chime in on their first impressions.

CD

You mentioned that the analog out is excellent. I thought that since you also have the 8002 avr you would be using the hdmi for audio? Also regarding "deep color" I didn't think there were any blu-ray disc out there that utilize deep color? I would imagine in the near future there will be. Anyway your input and comments regarding this unit are appreciated. I beleive you are the first to actually post any comments.

Mike
post #255 of 724
I was using HDMI but there was a handshake issue. Also when connected through the SR8002 I could not pass 1080p24p. I resolved this by directly connecting HDMI from the BD8002 to the Toshiba 52lx177. Doing this allowed me to select 1080p24p. It was grayed out in the BD8002 menu when connected to the SR8002. Go figure...Marantz products not in working with one another.

CD
post #256 of 724
Your Marantz receiver may not pass 1080P24. Check the manual. Few receivers currently pass 1080P24.
post #257 of 724
Jeff, the SR8002 is HDMI 1.3a and does no conversion on HDMI sources. It should theoretically just pass the signal correct? The manual just mentions 1080p. I have posted this on the SR8002 board.

CD
post #258 of 724
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Originally Posted by thebland View Post

Your Marantz receiver may not pass 1080P24. Check the manual. Few receivers currently pass 1080P24.

Isn't that the latest receiver model? I would certainly hope it passes 1080p24 correctly. Does it have an EDID setting you need to turn on or off?
post #259 of 724
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Originally Posted by cal87 View Post

Isn't that the latest receiver model? I would certainly hope it passes 1080p24 correctly. Does it have an EDID setting you need to turn on or off?

EDID...?

Help me out here.

thanks,

CD
post #260 of 724
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Originally Posted by Cattledog View Post

EDID...?

Help me out here.

thanks,

CD

Your display should passback some video EDID data back to your source to tell it that it is capable of accepting a 1080p24 signal. If connecting the player directly to the display, you do send out 1080p24, and it gets messed up when the receiver is in the middle, there is some problem with the video EDID data getting transmitted. Check your receiver manual if there is a setting to turn this EDID transmission on or off. I am not sure why it would even be off.

Another thought, does the Marantz receiver have 2 HDMI outputs? If so, did you try the other output?
post #261 of 724
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Originally Posted by cal87 View Post

Your display should passback some video EDID data back to your source to tell it that it is capable of accepting a 1080p24 signal. If connecting the player directly to the display, you do send out 1080p24, and it gets messed up when the receiver is in the middle, there is some problem with the video EDID data getting transmitted. Check your receiver manual if there is a setting to turn this EDID transmission on or off. I am not sure why it would even be off.

Another thought, does the Marantz receiver have 2 HDMI outputs? If so, did you try the other output?


Thanks, it does have another HDMI output. i'll try that. Also I got word on the SR8002 thread that it does pass 1080p/24.

Cd

Update the other HDMI port does not enable 1080p/24 either
post #262 of 724
Sounds like if the receiver passes 1080P24, the display is having an issue. I'd check the menus in the display for some obscure switch.to enable it. It sounds like a simple issue not catastrophic. I've dealt with these type of issues before.. doesn't sound like a faulty player.
post #263 of 724
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Originally Posted by thebland View Post

Sounds like if the receiver passes 1080P24, the display is having an issue. I'd check the menus in the display for some obscure switch.to enable it. It sounds like a simple issue not catastrophic. I've dealt with these type of issues before.. doesn't sound like a faulty player.

I'm not so sure about the receiver passing 1080p/24 even though another
member said it does. There is no mention or setting I can see that will enable it. I don't think it's the player since it pass 1080p/24 directly to the set. When the reciever is in the HDMI loop that's when all the problems arise.


CD
post #264 of 724
Hello,

Quote:Jeff, the SR8002 is HDMI 1.3a and does no conversion on HDMI sources. It should theoretically just pass the signal correct? The manual just mentions 1080p. I have posted this on the SR8002 board.

CD

My SR 8002 passes 1080/24 no problems it just got back from Marantz for updates if that means anything?

rmlowz
post #265 of 724
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Originally Posted by rmlowz View Post

Hello,



CD

My SR 8002 passes 1080/24 no problems it just got back from Marantz for updates if that means anything?

rmlowz

Thanks, The Marantz BD8002 does not like the Marantz SR8002 for some weird reason. How can you really tell if you are passing 1080p/24? Does your set
give a visual readout?

CD
post #266 of 724
Hello,

Yes the Epson Pro 1080 UB in the info menu gives you a read out of input resolution.

rmlowz
post #267 of 724
Could mean a lot. Perhaps a firmware update is needed.
post #268 of 724
If it is passing 24P, the BD player display is all you need to know. If there is a HDCP issue, it won't show 24P.
post #269 of 724
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Originally Posted by thebland View Post

Could mean a lot. Perhaps a firmware update is needed.

Yeah that's what I think. I'm gonna call Marantz.

Cd
post #270 of 724
I know the Marantz passes 1080p24 If you have a panel with a PC mode it will give you the info you need also. Mine says 1080p 24 when I switch over. Also the 8002 and 7002 are just switches for video and just passthrough the signal. I have had at least 4-5 1080p24 players over it and have had no HDMI issues.

jim
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