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post #211 of 863
I went through and did a round with AVIA since updating the firmware. Thought I would post my new settings. I still can't tell if I like the new ones or the old ones, probably because I have gotten used to the old ones. I actually took a different tact this time. I left the color and tint settings at 0 and adjusted the CMS settings from there. I also used a colortemp of low. Let me know what you think.

Backlight: +9
Contrast: +34
Brightness: -5 (I incorrectly had this at +5 in the initial post)
Color: 0
Tint: 0
Sharpness: +1
Active Contrast: Off
Fine Motion: Off
IP Setting: Slow

CMS Hue:
R: +4
Y: +4
G: 0
C: +11
B: 0
M: -8

CMS Sat:
R: -6
Y: 0
G: 0
C: -4
B: +2
M: 0
post #212 of 863
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Originally Posted by baloo75 View Post

I went through and did a round with AVIA since updating the firmware. Thought I would post my new settings. I still can't tell if I like the new ones or the old ones, probably because I have gotten used to the old ones. I actually took a different tact this time. I left the color and tint settings at 0 and adjusted the CMS settings from there. I also used a colortemp of low. Let me know what you think.


Color: 0
Tint: 0

CMS Hue:
R: +4
Y: +4
G: 0
C: +11
B: 0
M: -8

CMS Sat:
R: -6
Y: 0
G: 0
C: -4
B: +2
M: 0

Thanks, gonna' try these out. ^^
post #213 of 863
Quote:
Originally Posted by OhioLefty View Post

Fine Motion inserts a black frame in between frames to trick your eye into seeing a faster refresh but some people can notice the flicker with certain sources. So it depends on the source and your sensitivity as to how well it works.


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Originally Posted by PanamaMike View Post

Where is this documented?

NM found it in the brochure, funny since I think this is better than 120Hz interpolated frames.

Yeah, I think it works well. At first, I was a little disappointed with the motion blur from 60hz and was considering returning this display and getting a 120hz. However, with Fine-Motion turned on, I'm pretty happy with the D64U.
post #214 of 863
Quote:
Originally Posted by baloo75 View Post

I went through and did a round with AVIA since updating the firmware. Thought I would post my new settings. I still can't tell if I like the new ones or the old ones, probably because I have gotten used to the old ones. I actually took a different tact this time. I left the color and tint settings at 0 and adjusted the CMS settings from there. I also used a colortemp of low. Let me know what you think.

Backlight: +9
Contrast: +34
Brightness: +5
Color: 0
Tint: 0
Sharpness: +1
Active Contrast: Off
Fine Motion: Off
IP Setting: Slow

CMS Hue:
R: +4
Y: +4
G: 0
C: +11
B: 0
M: -8

CMS Sat:
R: -6
Y: 0
G: 0
C: -4
B: +2
M: 0

Thanks baloo75,

I'll give'em a try...
post #215 of 863
In the settings that I posted brightness should be -5, not +5 like I originally posted. I went back and edited the original post.
post #216 of 863
Thanks for the clarification. I was kind of surprised at the major change you had. I will try out the new settings tomorrow.
post #217 of 863
baloo75... Thanks for posting. I tried these out and watched a few programs in HD and SD content and find that my preference is your orginal settings.

I tried your orginal settings out of the box and with a few minor tweaks (brightness/color) I find them excellent.

Thanks for continually trying to provide the optimum calibrations for these sets. At this time I am staying with baloo75#1.

-ph
post #218 of 863
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Originally Posted by ResOGlas View Post

Yeah, I think it works well. At first, I was a little disappointed with the motion blur from 60hz and was considering returning this display and getting a 120hz. However, with Fine-Motion turned on, I'm pretty happy with the D64U.

Is fine motion a sort of pseudo 24hz mode? I get a great deal of flicker if I turn it on.
post #219 of 863
Quote:
Originally Posted by baloo75 View Post

In the settings that I posted brightness should be -5, not +5 like I originally posted. I went back and edited the original post.

baloo, can you state what input this was done on and what type of DVD player you used with Avia? Also, did you start with "user" as your a/v mode or from a different mode as a base?

thanks!
post #220 of 863
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Originally Posted by facesnorth View Post

baloo, can you state what input this was done on and what type of DVD player you used with Avia? Also, did you start with "user" as your a/v mode or from a different mode as a base?

thanks!

I used the VGA input from an XBox360 at 1080p. When I get time I am going to go back and try it over component at 480p from the xbox. Unfortunately my xbox doesn't have hdmi which is what I really want. I'm actually not real satisfied with these settings. The colors are to saturated for my taste. I can't seem to duplicate the results I had from my original settings with the new FW. I am also now questioning keeping the color and tint setting at 0 and trying to just use the CMS settings. I believe this is why the colors are so saturated.

I'm going to keep trying these new settings to see if they grow on me. The settings I just posted are valid for my TV but they don't look as good as my original settings with the original FW in my opinion. I use my old trusty Mits RPTV as my benchmark. I have yet to see better color on any set.

Yes I used the user setting.
post #221 of 863
Quote:
Originally Posted by hakujin View Post

Is fine motion a sort of pseudo 24hz mode? I get a great deal of flicker if I turn it on.

No, it's black frame insertion. This simulates the raster drawing technology of a CRT. Rather than keeping the image persistent on screen, a black frame is added in between frames to help smooth out the image, reduce blur. It's questionable how effective it is, some reviews I've seen aren't favorable about this technology. It does definitely darken the overall screen image, it may also cause some level of flicker if you're sensitive to that effect. Another note, BFI might help in energy savings since you're putting in black frames turning off the backlight.

That being said, I don't see how 120hz is any better since it creates frames that don't exist. Look at the 71 series thread about TBE, triple ball effect, caused by these "false" frames.
post #222 of 863
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Originally Posted by OhioLefty View Post

I'm curious about a theory I have and was wondering if you all would indulge me.

I think the reason some calibration settings look different when used on an identical set (other than source input obviously) is that different settings react differently with different firmwares.

The reason I say this is my LC-52D64U with firmware U0708071 was using the Home Theater review settings tweaked using "GetGray" and "DVE" and it really looked good. I updated the firmware (to U0709111) and with the exact same settings the picture looked totally different. Right now I'm trying HansB settings and now they look really good whereas before the colors and tint were off.

If you guys would be so kind, list your firmware revision and what settings you are using. If you are using some individual's settings found here you can just reference them by name (TigerDave, Baloo75, HansB, etc.).

I would just like to see if there is some correlation or I'm just seeing something isolated to just my set.

I agree Lefty... I have noticed that after several of folks have updated their sets firmware they are complaining that their existing calibration settings appear to have gone south.... That's why I have avoided any FW updates unless I understand that the upgrade is going to provide me something very special when my set is already functioning as it should with the level of FW as purchased.

Settings:

My settings are the orginal baloo75 settings....

Firmware:

U0708071

-ph
post #223 of 863
I did the FW update and they have been working fine with the original Baloo settings. I haven't noticed any change since the FW update.
post #224 of 863
thanks for the calibrations. i'm using baloo75's new settings with the newest fw but the picture looks pretty dark to me. my room is always well lit so i think thats the problem. i maxed out the backlight and increased the brightness. this is my first lcd so i'm not sure what else to do to make the picture lighter but not have the blacks looks grey.
post #225 of 863
i've read through the entire thread in anticipation of receiving my 46d64u next monday. thank you to all the posters!

2 questions:
1) when i receive the package from the trucking company, i was told to inspect it before approving delivery. i am told that i can do more than just look at the exterior of the box -- perhaps i can even hook it up. is there a quick evaluation i can do by unboxing it (rapidly, if possible) and plugging it in? i'm guessing the ability to display any signal would mean there was no damage during shipment, but things like dead pixels would be a sharp warranty issue. what do i look for? any advice is welcome.

2) i own a monaco optix colorimeter that i've used with an external LCD display (19" NEC) connected to my laptop. i see that i can connect my laptop to the 46d64u via the VGA input (i don't have a DVI->HDMI cable on hand)...but i'm wondering if this would be a waste of time. in other words, would calibrating off a laptop's not-terribly-great video output be silly when the sharp display will primarily be used for DVDs and broadcast TV?

if not, i am willing to try it and can post results.

if the above is not wise/applicable, and in the absence of the AVIA or DVE DVDs, it sounds like using the settings of baloo75, et al., as a starting point would be best.

thank you! i look forward to contributing something back to the community.

EDIT to add: I bought an Oppo 981 in anticipation of receiving the TV. We had an old (>6-7 years) Sony DVD player. I'm not into wasting money, and I could probably return the 981. Would I be served quite well with the older Sony vs the Oppo's upscaling? I can make use of the multi-region features of the Oppo and it's PAL->NTSC conversion, but I don't really need that.
post #226 of 863
Hey guys, what settings do you guys recommend for a well lit room?? What feature would you guys recommend that I fix? Thanks. Also, what do you guys suggest to reduce the graininess on the TV?
post #227 of 863
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Originally Posted by ecosse View Post

Also, what do you guys suggest to reduce the graininess on the TV?

what signal are you sending it?
post #228 of 863
What do you mean by what signal am I sending? Do you mean HDTV or SDTV? If that's your question, I'm watching cable at 720p. Sometimes the picture becomes very grainy, what can I do to fix it?
post #229 of 863
what type of connection? what kind of cable box do you have? what type of connectivity does the cable box have?
post #230 of 863
Well, I have a comcast cable box, and the normal RF-6 coaxial cable is what connects it. Does that answer your question?
post #231 of 863
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Originally Posted by ecosse View Post

Well, I have a comcast cable box, and the normal RF-6 coaxial cable is what connects it. Does that answer your question?

No, he is asking you how you have your TV connected (between TV and Cable Box). HDMI, Component?

Wow...
post #232 of 863
i bet he actually has a coax cable connecting the cable box to the TV.

so yeah....get rid of that pronto. at minimum you should be connecting via component video cables and using RCA's for audio if you're just going to use the TV's speakers.
post #233 of 863
Well, here's the problem with that. I'm actually in College dorms, and the cable comes straight through the wall for us (through comcast) and therefore I can't connect using component or anything. Please advise what to do! Thanks.
post #234 of 863
what the phuck? you've got a freakin D64 in the dorm? nevermind.
post #235 of 863
Okay, I have been tormented over this since I picked up set on Black Friday. I do have banding which is not too noticeable except on gray screen. Then I see banding plus a big cloud in the middle which reminds me of a blackboard after it has been erased. All of this does not really concern me as much as the high-def picture quality. I am using baloo75 settings which are good. The problem is the picture lacks that crisp and clear look that I am used to seeing on my other two high-def tv's A 50" Sony sxrd and a 32" Vizio. If this had been my first hdtv I might not have noticed it as much. I am torn between taking it back and exhange it for the same model or keep this one and forever wish I hadn't. If I returned it altogether I will forfeit 15% of purchase price and I don't really want to do that. The color is fine, I just wish the picture was as crisp and clear as my other sets without that faint "orange peel" look.

I have the LC-46d64u.
post #236 of 863
Have you tried the various picture settings form the manufacturer via the hidden buttons on the bottom of the controller. I think its called a/v mode or something like that. I use the "standard" setting alot and it looks spectacular. If you have the Hi-Def box from comcast, invest in an HDMI cable. That may improve things as well. My picture looks pretty phenominal most of the time. Maybe you just have a bad set?

can anybody post there calibration settings for the Xbox360 connected through VGA? It seems it looks a bit different than most other connections. It looks good nonetheless.
post #237 of 863
I'm ditching the Sharp (Banding probs) , but before I go...

Movie:
With Fine-Motion ON, contast 30, brightness -01. Color temp: Low





Most accurate I have found as far as calibration goes.

Baloo's colors have been inaccurate as far as calibration goes on my set, but the D64U does push red too much at default. Backlight does not affect calibration, but is up to your own preference/room lighting. Have fun, great display.
post #238 of 863
if you're going to complain about PQ, you must make mention of what the source is with the problem, and how that source is connected.
post #239 of 863
What is all this I'm hearing about banding problems? What does this mean? How do I know if my TV has any banding problems, and how do I check? Thanks.
post #240 of 863
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Originally Posted by ecosse View Post

What is all this I'm hearing about banding problems? What does this mean? How do I know if my TV has any banding problems, and how do I check? Thanks.

are you happy with the picture on your tv?

yes? great. move on, never return, and be happy. please.
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