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post #751 of 862
I dont have a remote for my tv, so how do I access these different modes such as movie mode and such? Anyone got an extra remote they wanna sell?
post #752 of 862
O and how can i get the firmware version it is not under the digital setup menu
post #753 of 862
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Originally Posted by danemp View Post

O and how can i get the firmware version it is not under the digital setup menu

You have to be on the TV input to see the firmware version.
post #754 of 862
what setting do any of you have 32' model hooked up via PS3
post #755 of 862
These are my current settings for the 32 inch D64u

Brightness and contrast should be properly adjusted for each set. I recommend everyone to download AVSHD, burn it to a blank dvd for use in a blu ray player.

This is for use in a dark room with a little light

OPC: Off
Backlight: +9
Contrast: +31
Brightness: +3
Color: +5
Tint: 0
Sharpness: 0


Advanced Settings

CMS Hue: R= 0
Y= +4
G= -2
C= +5
B= 0
M= -4

CMS Saturation: R= -6
Y= +2
G= -3
C= -6
B= -1
M= 0

Color Temperature: If you intend to watch movies on your Blu Ray player set this to LOW

If you intend to watch TV shows and not movies on your Blu Ray Player set this to MID-LOW

Active Contrast- OFF (everybody leaves it off so i'm thinking it's right to leave it off, although it does seem to brighten up some Dark scenes and adjust the black and white. But if your contrast and brightness is already set, why turn this on? Won't it just degrade picture quality.

IP Setting, Film mode and Digital Noise Reduction are not available for me when using my Blu Ray Player and its 1080 P source.

Monochrome- Off
Range Of OPC- Default factory settings. I don't bother with turning it on.


Special thanks to previous posters as to which I've provided my CMS settings such as Sam S, Shrabok, Hans B, Sky, everybody else!


Try it out and give me your feedback.

This is pretty much a mixture of alot of peoples calibrations.

Hans B said earlier in a post that this CMS setting was the perfect color decoder, and the colors look real and naturalistic.

Also, remember that Contrast and Brightness is very important to be set correctly. I strongly suggest using AVSHD, download it.


The different sizes of these Televisions, such as the 32', 37', 42', 47' etc seem to all have different proper brightness and contrast settings.
post #756 of 862
A question about using AVS HD 709. When calibrating contrast, should I be setting it to where I can see all of those flashing bars on the white screen? I've read that setting it to the highest setting while still being able to see bars 230-234 or higher. Or should I set it to the highest setting where I can see every bar 230-253?


Confused...

Most people have firmly agreed that the contrast for this sharp d64u model should be set at 31. 31 is what I end up with when aiming for bars 230-234 or higher flash, and 28 to see every single bar 230-253.


Which is proper? 31 or 28?

Thanks a bunch guys.


My brightness setting is always a +2, barely being able to see bar 17 flash on the brightness pattern in avs hd 709.
post #757 of 862
*UPDATE for "Video Games" *

I originally posted this on page 16 but have made some adjustment within the last few months. I feel these are some of the best settings for anyone playing XBox 360 and PS3 through HDMI on the Sharp 64u or 62u series.

This are the changes;

Back Light from +8 to +3

Brightness from -9 to -3 (if this is still to dark, don't change this setting, change the setting on the actually game. Like Gears Of War. When you are in the last 2 chapters, it gets very dark. for some this may be way to dark. I urge you to refrain from changing this setting. Instead go to the games video menus and change the brightness there. Every game is specific and that's why they have this video menu. Use it.)

Sharpness from -1 to +3



Select Game Mode for these settings

Back light: +3
Contrast: +33
Brightness: -3
Color: +5
Tint: 0
Sharpness: +3

Digital Noise Reduction: low
Color Temp: Middle
Active Contrast: On
Fine Motion: Off (I know gamers want that 4ms refresh rate, but You don't need it, TRUST ME)
IP Setting: Off

CMS HUE
R=+3
Y=+4
G=-2
C=+5
B=0
M=-4

CMS SAT
R=-7
Y=+2
G=-3
C=-6
B=-13
M=0
post #758 of 862
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vagrant Pistol View Post

*UPDATE for "Video Games" *

I originally posted this on page 16 but have made some adjustment within the last few months. I feel these are some of the best settings for anyone playing XBox 360 and PS3 through HDMI on the Sharp 64u or 62u series.

This are the changes;

Back Light from +8 to +3

Brightness from -9 to -3 (if this is still to dark, don't change this setting, change the setting on the actually game. Like Gears Of War. When you are in the last 2 chapters, it gets very dark. for some this may be way to dark. I urge you to refrain from changing this setting. Instead go to the games video menus and change the brightness there. Every game is specific and that's why they have this video menu. Use it.)

Sharpness from -1 to +3



Select Game Mode for these settings

Back light: +3
Contrast: +33
Brightness: -3
Color: +5
Tint: 0
Sharpness: +3

Digital Noise Reduction: low
Color Temp: Middle
Active Contrast: On
Fine Motion: Off (I know gamers want that 4ms refresh rate, but You don't need it, TRUST ME)
IP Setting: Off

CMS HUE
R=+3
Y=+4
G=-2
C=+5
B=0
M=-4

CMS SAT
R=+-7
Y=+2
G=-3
C=-6
B=-13
M=0

It would be better for a 62u to use a sharpness setting of -4 (if you want edge enhancement) or -7 (if you want no edge enhancement). Also, the optimal brightness setting will be much lower if you are using "Expanded" reference levels. (aka PC video levels)
post #759 of 862
Quote:
Originally Posted by arimaincorp View Post

hey guys, I've been using shrabok's settings for a while now, does anyone else think the picture is a little on the purple side. i set up the "user" setting with sams' setting and flipped back and forth between shrabok's movie and sams user settings. the blues in movie mode is purple, while users mode is blue. I know the preset dynamic setting is ridiculous but it shows blue as blue and not like purple. thanks

Yeah, I've noticed the same thing. The Kansas basketball team uniforms was where I noticed it first. They should be pure blue but they looked a touch purple with these settings.
post #760 of 862
Question for all you D64 owners. I purchased the 65 inch version and when watching some channels from my cable box connected through hdmi, i get some noise at the top of the screen on some programing. I was wondering if anyone knows how to move the image upwards so that i can minimize the noise i am seeing at the top of the screen. i saw an option for vertical/horizontal position but it only seems available using certain inputs but it is grayed out when using an hdmi input. is their a way to get into the service menu to adjust the vertical position????

also, over in the lc-65d64u thread one person claims to have minimized the banding. i have asked for a follow up response from the op but have yet to hear anything more. the thread is located here
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...9#post16121419
post #761 of 862
That noise you are getting at the top of the screen is normal. It's just the way that your cable provider is broadcasting it. It's not the Television's fault. I have the same problem with some progamming.
post #762 of 862
Correct and I sometimes get it only during commercials, while the program itself is fine. I believe that the manual indicates that this problem can be exacerbated when using the Dot By Dot View Mode.
post #763 of 862
i realize the its normal because the lack of overscan in dot/dot mode but with other lcd panels i have including an older vizio, i was able to adjust the position of the picture to minimize the noise.
post #764 of 862
i know the set has the capability because it can be done under certain inputs so im thinking that adjustment would be available in service mode for the hdmi inputs in 1080i.
post #765 of 862
Quote:
Originally Posted by riyatch View Post

i realize the its normal because the lack of overscan in dot/dot mode but with other lcd panels i have including an older vizio, i was able to adjust the position of the picture to minimize the noise.

Yup. Just don't use the Dot by Dot in view mode. Use stretch for broadcast. It will go away.
post #766 of 862
the reason for my question was to avoid having to switch to stretch and degrade picture quality.
post #767 of 862
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam S View Post

OK, I finally invested in CalMAN software and a Chroma5 meter and performed a calibration on my 42D64U. I don't see where anyone has actually done measurements like this before.

Below are my new calibration measurements. Yes, they are drastically different than my previous recommended settings. But, these look much better, and measure much better. Try it!!


Backlight -1
Contrast +27
Brightness -3
Color -1
Tint 0
Sharpness 0

CMS Hue
R +14
Y +3
G -16
C 0
B +2
M -8

CMS Saturation
R +30
Y +30
G +30
C 0
B +24
M +30

Color Temp: Low <-IMPORTANT. This is the only way to get close to D6500.
Active Contrast: Off
Fine Motion: On
I/P Setting: Fast
Film Mode: On <-IMPORTANT. This is the only way to enable 3:2 pulldown for 1080i film sources. I tested with the Blu-ray HQV discs.




EDIT: I should mention these settings are for 1080p from a PS3. Component video 1080i/480p is going to be different.

after a couple of months of switching from sams (user,movie) and shabok's settings I think I'm leaning back to sams user setting, minus the fine motion.
post #768 of 862
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Originally Posted by riyatch View Post

the reason for my question was to avoid having to switch to stretch and degrade picture quality.

Stretch doesn't degrade the image, especially if you're watching HD via cable/satellite/antenna. It just provides for ~2% overscan on all sides. The "noise" you see at the top of the picture is actually the SD close-captioning information being sent as part of the video signal.

S.Stretch is the one to avoid.
post #769 of 862
on a 65 incher, using stretch definitely cause the image to degrade. plus, i like to see the whole image but would just like to move the image up a few ticks to minimize the noise at the top of the picture.
post #770 of 862
Quote:
Originally Posted by riyatch View Post

on a 65 incher, using stretch definitely cause the image to degrade. plus, i like to see the whole image but would just like to move the image up a few ticks to minimize the noise at the top of the picture.

Degrade how? Are you sure you're not using S.Stretch?

And if you were able to move the image up ~20pixels to mask the noise, you'd have a blank/black bar on the bottom of the screen.
post #771 of 862
Hey Vagrant Pistol would you recommend your GAME settings for the XBox 360 using VGA connection? I'm currently using your settings and they look awesome over VGA. My reference level on the 360 is set to expanded. Would you recommend that I change anything?
post #772 of 862
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam S View Post

Degrade how? Are you sure you're not using S.Stretch?

And if you were able to move the image up ~20pixels to mask the noise, you'd have a blank/black bar on the bottom of the screen.

using the stretch effectively zooms in the picture a little bit and as a result causes the effective resolution to decrease thus causing the picture to not look as good -> degraded.

i have been able to shift the vertical position on other sets i have owned and this minimized the noise without having a black bar on the bottom so why should this set be any different.
post #773 of 862
Quote:
Originally Posted by riyatch View Post

using the stretch effectively zooms in the picture a little bit and as a result causes the effective resolution to decrease thus causing the picture to not look as good -> degraded.

i have been able to shift the vertical position on other sets i have owned and this minimized the noise without having a black bar on the bottom so why should this set be any different.

You're correct in the fact that Stretch does zoom the picture in a bit. However, like I mentioned previously, if you're watching HD satellite/cable/Uverse/FiOS, there is no way you're getting effective 1080x1920 picture resolution. No broadcast source measures detail that high. That might be the format (1080i), but not the effective resolution. Probably closer to 900x1600. The picture may look a bit sharper on dot-by-dot, you're not losing resolution.

If you're using Dot-by-Dot on another 1080p set and shift the picture up even a few pixels, there's no way to not have a black/blank area on the bottom of the image, when you have a 1080i source. If you shift the top 2% off of the picture, where does the bottom picture information come from?
post #774 of 862
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam S View Post

You're correct in the fact that Stretch does zoom the picture in a bit. However, like I mentioned previously, if you're watching HD satellite/cable/Uverse/FiOS, there is no way you're getting effective 1080x1920 picture resolution. No broadcast source measures detail that high. That might be the format (1080i), but not the effective resolution. Probably closer to 900x1600. The picture may look a bit sharper on dot-by-dot, you're not losing resolution.

If you're using Dot-by-Dot on another 1080p set and shift the picture up even a few pixels, there's no way to not have a black/blank area on the bottom of the image, when you have a 1080i source. If you shift the top 2% off of the picture, where does the bottom picture information come from?

What do you mean by "effective"? Are you referring to the lower image quality due to compression? The source video before broadcast sometimes is a true 1080i source. For example, the HDnet test pattern broadcast I recorded on my DVR resolves 1920 x 1080 detail.
post #775 of 862
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Originally Posted by nick2010 View Post

What do you mean by "effective"? Are you referring to the lower image quality due to compression? The source video before broadcast sometimes is a true 1080i source. For example, the HDnet test pattern broadcast I recorded on my DVR resolves 1920 x 1080 detail.

Image quality can be lower than true 1920x1080 pixels due to provider-based compression, motion, and source material. Even few Blu-ray (outside of test patterns) have effective 1080 lines of horizontal resolution.

A common test that AVS'ers have used on HD sources is the old "downsize->upsize" trick to determine effective resolution. They'll take a 1080i/p image, knock it down to 720p and sample it back up to 1080p. If the detail level looks the same as the original, it is determined to have "effective 720p" resolution.

There's a big thread running on this topic in another sub-forum, but I don't recall where it is.
post #776 of 862
Hey Vagrant Pistol would you recommend your GAME settings for the XBox 360 using VGA connection? I'm currently using your settings and they look awesome over VGA. My reference level on the 360 is set to expanded. Would you recommend that I change anything?
post #777 of 862
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobster231 View Post

Hey Vagrant Pistol would you recommend your GAME settings for the XBox 360 using VGA connection? I'm currently using your settings and they look awesome over VGA. My reference level on the 360 is set to expanded. Would you recommend that I change anything?


Yes. These will work fine over VGA (even though It's VGA, the TV will treat it as a digital signal, like HDMI).....Which ever way looks good to you. If you like it expanded, than leave it like that. That's really up to you. My settings provide a sweet spot. From than on, you can tweak them to your liking. Less color, more color, more or less contrast etc. I'm happy you like them!
post #778 of 862
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam S View Post

You're correct in the fact that Stretch does zoom the picture in a bit. However, like I mentioned previously, if you're watching HD satellite/cable/Uverse/FiOS, there is no way you're getting effective 1080x1920 picture resolution. No broadcast source measures detail that high. That might be the format (1080i), but not the effective resolution. Probably closer to 900x1600. The picture may look a bit sharper on dot-by-dot, you're not losing resolution.

If you're using Dot-by-Dot on another 1080p set and shift the picture up even a few pixels, there's no way to not have a black/blank area on the bottom of the image, when you have a 1080i source. If you shift the top 2% off of the picture, where does the bottom picture information come from?

You've taken the words out of the reply before I can even reply.
post #779 of 862
Vagrant Pistol your settings ROCK for gaming! However I think due to the size of my 32 inch D64U the sharpness setting on +3 is way too sharp for my television. I've lowered it back to your original -1 setting.

Also, Sam S, I'm using your settings, (the ones with the cms hue of +30 for Red, Yellow, and Green) for my Panasonic BD DMP-35. Do you think those same settings would be usable for gaming on the 360 via VGA connection with expanded reference levels?

Or is the PS3 vs. XBox 360 very different when it comes to color, contrast, and brightness?


Also Sam when using your settings and using AVS HD 709, my contrast setting ends up at +31, and brightness at +2. There must be a difference with the different sizes of these televisions. Should I stick with your Contrast and Brightness levels or stick with what I get from AVS HD?

Thanks for all the help!
post #780 of 862
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Originally Posted by Bobster231 View Post

Also, Sam S, I'm using your settings, (the ones with the cms hue of +30 for Red, Yellow, and Green) for my Panasonic BD DMP-35. Do you think those same settings would be usable for gaming on the 360 via VGA connection with expanded reference levels?

Or is the PS3 vs. XBox 360 very different when it comes to color, contrast, and brightness?

Thanks for all the help!

I don't have an XBOX, so I can't verify if the settings would be accurate.
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