Originally Posted by lipcrkr
Yes, it's a known fact that LCD's need improvement in viewing angle, any moron can go to Circuit City and plainly see that if you buy an LCD make sure you aren't sitting on the john while the rest of the family is watching Leave it to Beaver in the living room. What i don't appreciate is people like Rich and the HD Guru, who are strongly biased towards plasmas, desperately trying to find something, or anything, to advance their anti LCD, pro plasma sentiments. By the way, the HD Guru is at it again, he is shown at Cedia touching an LCD screen and getting electocuted (or something to that effect). It gets tiring after awhile.
Wow. I actually originally believed you were being honestly polite before. "desperately trying to find something?"
You appear to be making the mistake I pointed out, conflating "preference" with "bias." If I were biased, I would not be able to appreciate or describe the visual benefits of both technologies. If I have misrepresented the performance characteristics of plasma or LCD in my descriptions, please point out where. Otherwise, it's not terribly kind to shove the word "bias" at me, pejoratively is it?
I have often
said throughout the years that I find LCDs to be in general sharper looking, more vibrant (particularly in brighter lighting), and the best of them produce for me what is among my most prized qualities: "palpability." That solid, vivid, reach-in and touch it quality. I've said many times in the plasma forums that for sheer image realism, in that count, the best LCDs have produced that type of realistic image quality for me better than ANY other display technology. That LCDs are for many people when plasma is not. That LCDs generally have most of the pluses that people buy them for. That LCDs have certainly improved contrast ratio and black levels (as I said, even the Sharp had nice contrast on axis). Nor, btw, could someone pry this lovely LCD monitor I'm using to type this with out of my cold, dead hands, for any other screen technology. That is hardly the view of an LCD basher.
As it is, the best plasmas, like the Pioneer Kuro, still do a couple of the most important things to me
that I like better - e.g. offer deepest black levels with consistent contrast. Hence my preference
for something like a Pioneer Kuro over a same-sized LCD. I love deep black levels and haven't encountered an LCD that does them like the Kuro. If I found one, I'd have no trouble considering buying such an LCD. And I WOULD take some of the LCDs that do deeper black levels and better contrast over a plasma that does not do well in those parameters. A number of new LCDs could just blow my plasma away on a great deal of source material.
But, as someone who has been a flat panel fan following the format for years, dare I bring up the single most frustrating issue with LCDs, wishing it were progressing as the manufacturers (and many LCD owners) claim...and it's "Bias! Bias! LCD-basher! Why post your gripe here!? It can only be to
revel in your Bias!"
Well...this is the LCD forum! Where else does one discuss an issue with LCDs? (And I have rarely been on the plasma forum for quite a while now, as I've moved into the projector forums).
People over in the digital projector forums, for instance, own or audition LCOS and gripe about things they wish were better, like ANSI contrast etc. These forums are where we hash out our likes and gripes.
It can be simply strange tip-toeing around the psychology of various forums here, from LCD/Plasma camps, and people who have emotional investments in Blu Ray or HD DVD. But I guess my greatest pet peeve is the way the charge of "bias" is so often lazily and derisively tossed around, and so often
used incorrectly, just to get a barb in.
At least it's heartening to see not everyone in this thread is inspired to make ad hominem charges, toss around this "bias" and "fan boy" crap, simply because someone discusses an issue with LCDs.
LCDs...capable of fabulous images under the right conditions, almost un-paralleled in some ways. I admire what LCDs can do well so much it makes it all the more frustrating to me that they can't seem to get closer to a fix on the viewing angle/contrast/evenness thing, which could make them more applicable for my viewing criteria.