Originally Posted by Q of BanditZ http://www.usa.denon.com/ProductDetails/4154.asp
I've been wondering this for several months.
There's that and the fact that this unit has been out for at least a year and even now, once you leave this forum there's pretty much zero out there about it even to this day.
I find it remarkable that not even ONE outlet ever reviewed it in all this time.
Cpcat has pretty much been a one man army for this unit.
I'm guessing it's been discontinued and probably several months ago because that's when I first noticed that product link not working correctly.
Amazon is now out of stock whereas they'd said "we have 2 left" or something like that for the last few weeks.
Some unknown Amazon third party has a refurb supposedly...the One Call listing that were there are gone... One Call themselves lists it as "on order..." Crutchfield and other retailers haven't had it for...heh, about the same time that link stopped working give or take.
I think it's gone and done with myself.
It's very obviously becoming scarce and disappearing if someone wants to buy one.
I'll be interested to see if Erik Garci ever gets any help from Denon for his 602 issue or not.
the reason the unit disappeared from the Amazon listing is that it is here in my home...for one more test. One more because I bought and returned this unit from Amazon in August: the one I received is the same one I returned: I know because the return paperwork is still in the box, so it seems there are not many of these units being sold.
The Denon VP is essentially the same as the VP in the Denon AVP: it has a large front panel display and the dual simultaneous HDMI outputs work
I also have the DVDO DUO and am comparing the two: if the DUO worked as advertised (dual simultaneous HDMI out) I would not be revisiting the Denon
My setup has an RT Com HS66 HDMI 6x6 matrix switcher in it: so any comparisons I report here may differ from what others will see ( the RT Com switch is expensive and far and away the best matrix switch I have ever tested)
My interest in comparing the DUO and the Denon had mainly to do with switching HDMI sources and speed of switching. Sources are OPPO, LG, and Sony ES BD's, a VUDU XL box, and a PC with HDMI card. Displays are a Kuro 141 and some Samsung LED LCD's
The DUO switches HDMI sources faster than the Denon: the DUO can do 4-5 second switches (hot plug on) while the Denon takes 7 seconds: and with the Denon it seems to require an extra HDMI handshake with the display, which probably accounts for the time difference
other likes/ dislikes:
Denon has Ethernet GUI: you can control it from your PC as well as RS232 and IR
DUO has test patterns which I use a lot: nice to have them built in
Denon has a large front panel display that tells what source is connected
and resolution of in and out: no front panel display on DUO
Denon has dual simultaneous outputs (both monitors must have same res)
I can confirm the Denon has never had a firmware update since August at the least: and it does seem to be a legacy unit. However sometimes Denon has provided firmware updates by email if you contact CS with an issue.
If DVDO would fix the dual out issue that would be my choice.
As far as processing abilities, that is a more subjective call I would have to spend more time looking at. I chuckle sometimes when I read about how one VP chip is better than another: I wonder if most folks can really see a difference and attribute it to a particular chip
Any more questions I would be happy to answer: I will return one of these units soon though