I commented on a thread in the PS forum with regards to PQ noise/grain on the PS3 and HDMI and it relates to this forum and what I noticed last night while watching some HD channnels.
It is the source as many have said previously. I have recently upgraded my tv to a Sony KDS 60A3000. I see noise and grain on HD channels through my FIOS cable, even Apocalypto BD has the mosquito noise/grain/artifacts at times. I NEVER see this on PS3 games or 1080p video clips. I am convinced now more than ever that although our microdisplays may exaggerate or exacerbate these "noise" issues, it is really the source material that is compressed or poor filming methods(lighting/focus, etc. that is the culprit.
I don't have a way to do screen captures, but I can give you an example. I was watching American Chopper in 1080i on Discovery HD. Most of the show looks excellent, but there were a few times that the camera did what my digital still camera does. When the light or focus isn't correct, the picture will come out grainy and full of noise. I saw this same affect on American Chopper last night in one scene. If you ever watch the show, it is the one where Mike and Vince go on a scooter trip to New England for lobsters. There is one scene where Mike is talking about the trip and he is outside in poor light conditions, and he is wearing a black tee shirt. It is the camera's focus and filming method used that lent itself to that grain and not my tv nor even compression.
Again, comparing clips and games where this is no compression or light/focus issues of the HD camera on my display, to where there is with HD channels, even with the most pristine BDs and it tells me the display is not the culprit. The compression and poor quality filming by the cameraman is the issue. What I don't understand is when they edit the movies and it is not a compression issue, but a poor job by the cameraman to focus or film properly, why aren't these "noise/grain" scenes edited out?
Anyway, I really know now that my display is NOT the culprit.
It is the source as many have said previously. I have recently upgraded my tv to a Sony KDS 60A3000. I see noise and grain on HD channels through my FIOS cable, even Apocalypto BD has the mosquito noise/grain/artifacts at times. I NEVER see this on PS3 games or 1080p video clips. I am convinced now more than ever that although our microdisplays may exaggerate or exacerbate these "noise" issues, it is really the source material that is compressed or poor filming methods(lighting/focus, etc. that is the culprit.
I don't have a way to do screen captures, but I can give you an example. I was watching American Chopper in 1080i on Discovery HD. Most of the show looks excellent, but there were a few times that the camera did what my digital still camera does. When the light or focus isn't correct, the picture will come out grainy and full of noise. I saw this same affect on American Chopper last night in one scene. If you ever watch the show, it is the one where Mike and Vince go on a scooter trip to New England for lobsters. There is one scene where Mike is talking about the trip and he is outside in poor light conditions, and he is wearing a black tee shirt. It is the camera's focus and filming method used that lent itself to that grain and not my tv nor even compression.
Again, comparing clips and games where this is no compression or light/focus issues of the HD camera on my display, to where there is with HD channels, even with the most pristine BDs and it tells me the display is not the culprit. The compression and poor quality filming by the cameraman is the issue. What I don't understand is when they edit the movies and it is not a compression issue, but a poor job by the cameraman to focus or film properly, why aren't these "noise/grain" scenes edited out?
Anyway, I really know now that my display is NOT the culprit.
