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post #5791 of 7683
6/28/12 at 4:56pm
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Not anytime soon eek.gif I have an 19 month old little girl, and she's on a rampage towards destruction eek.gif
( Kids are expensive..Gee who knew


Dan


Dan,


Hate to break it to you,

Even after they have grown up, you have paid to put them through college, and they are now living on their own, you will still be paying.

Don't know if it ever ends, maybe after they get married but i'm not counting on it. eek.gif

Good thing we love them!! smile.gif
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post #5792 of 7683
6/28/12 at 4:57pm
Hello Everyone:

I know it is borderline that I’m posting this in this forum but it is sort of on topic here at the moment. I brought one of the Patricia Barber blu ray disc from importcds (thanks to the heads up from you guys!). When I put it in for a listen the audio menu options only offered DTS HDMA 24/96, 5.1 and stereo 24/192. My system does process 24/192 5.1 info in DTS HDMA and DD True HD, I just confirmed this with a 2L disc I own.

I am wondering if there is a flaw with this disc, maybe there is a newer code that my system does not process or perhaps I’m missing something when setting it up. I’m curious to know if anyone else has encountered this issue with the disc. Your suggestions are encouraged.

Thanks

Steve
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post #5793 of 7683
6/28/12 at 6:44pm
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Originally Posted by Media Hostage View Post

Hello Everyone:
I know it is borderline that I’m posting this in this forum but it is sort of on topic here at the moment. I brought one of the Patricia Barber blu ray disc from importcds (thanks to the heads up from you guys!). When I put it in for a listen the audio menu options only offered DTS HDMA 24/96, 5.1 and stereo 24/192. My system does process 24/192 5.1 info in DTS HDMA and DD True HD, I just confirmed this with a 2L disc I own.
I am wondering if there is a flaw with this disc, maybe there is a newer code that my system does not process or perhaps I’m missing something when setting it up. I’m curious to know if anyone else has encountered this issue with the disc. Your suggestions are encouraged.
Thanks
Steve

Steve,

I'm not well versed technically with DTS-MA but I do know the 5.1 layer on the Modern Cool BR is 24/96 and the 2CH LPCM is 24/192. I don't think there is a flaw in the disc or that you are missing anything. I'm not sure why the 5.1 mix is not 192kHz opposed to 96kHz but it doesn't concern me at all. Does your AVR/prepro show 96kHz when playing the 5.1 layer? My Denon 4311 shows 96kHz for the 5.1 layer and it shows 192kHz for the 2CH layer.

Bill
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post #5794 of 7683
6/28/12 at 6:52pm
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Originally Posted by JJHXBR View Post

Dan,
Hate to break it to you,
Even after they have grown up, you have paid to put them through college, and they are now living on their own, you will still be paying.
Don't know if it ever ends, maybe after they get married but i'm not counting on it. eek.gif
Good thing we love them!! smile.gif

COLLEGE eek.gif, I didn't think this all the way throw biggrin.gif, Just kidding, we're already saving for that frown.gif, on top of 1200 a month daycare eek.gif there goes my dream Mac amp rolleyes.gif

The truth is it's all worth it every morning when she calls me jannny tongue.gif she's a little confuse hearing people calling me Danny, and the word daddy...

Dan
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post #5795 of 7683
6/29/12 at 7:43am
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Originally Posted by Bill Mac View Post

Steve,
I'm not well versed technically with DTS-MA but I do know the 5.1 layer on the Modern Cool BR is 24/96 and the 2CH LPCM is 24/192. I don't think there is a flaw in the disc or that you are missing anything. I'm not sure why the 5.1 mix is not 192kHz opposed to 96kHz but it doesn't concern me at all. Does your AVR/prepro show 96kHz when playing the 5.1 layer? My Denon 4311 shows 96kHz for the 5.1 layer and it shows 192kHz for the 2CH layer.
Bill

Bill:

Have to admit I must have misunderstood one of the post on the Modern Cool blu-ray to mean the 5.1 mix was 24/192 also. When the audio set up menu did not offer 24/192, 5.1 and it read 96kHz on my Onkyo receiver when I played the 5.1 layer, it sent me scrambling. Though I’m learning, I have limited tech knowledge as well. I thought possibly something was going on with the disc or my receiver wasn’t reading that layer thus the menu did not give that option. Yes the stereo layer does play in 192kHz and I agree it doesn’t concern me either, nor does the resolution on the 5.1 mix. The disc sounds awesome! Thanks for the clarification.

Steve
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post #5796 of 7683
6/29/12 at 8:10am
24/192 Music ... and why it make no sense

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Edited by pepar - 6/29/12 at 8:46am
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post #5797 of 7683
6/29/12 at 10:49am
Dave Brubeck Quartet - Time Out (geez, my third SACD version of this title eek.gif )

Billy Joel - The Stranger (Mobile Fidelity SACD version - my second SACD version)

Holly Cole Trio - Don't Smoke In Bed
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post #5798 of 7683
6/29/12 at 12:58pm
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24/192 Music ... and why it make no sense
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Thanks for the read......
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post #5799 of 7683
6/30/12 at 6:34am
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Originally Posted by pepar View Post

24/192 Music ... and why it make no sense
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I read over the link quickly and it seems to me to be the authors opinion that with 24/192kHz music there is no improvement. Or is it true and the whole 24/192kHz audio format is a hoax? To be honest I don't really care. I do know that 2CH 24/192kHz mix of the Modern Cool BR is outstanding smile.gif. On this one I let my own ears decide not some blogger trying to convince me I was listening to an inferior audio format. I guess there will always be those trying to discredit some form of audio format or another wink.gif.

Bill
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post #5800 of 7683
6/30/12 at 7:58am
MCH hi-res audio is currently "limited" to 96khz because of the DSP processing power required for anything above that. I have an SACD capable PS3 that coverts (depending on the settings I select in the PS3) DSD to PCM at 24/88.2 or 24/176.4. If I want, I can apply post processing (Dolby PLII Music, for example) to the 24/88.2 signal of any 2 channel output of the PS3. However, if I set it to output 24/176.4, I cannot apply any further Dolby PLII processing (nor the DTS equivalent, nor any proprietary processing by Yamaha on my A-1000). The higher sample rate stumps the processor.

Tangentially related (and this is a common limitation across brands, though not always present), my AVR will not apply processing to the lossless DTS tracks from Blu-ray films (Like Spectacle, Standard, etc.) that are bitstreamed from the player (decoding the bitstream and processing the signal is too much for the AVR's processor). If the DTS/DD lossless tracks are decoded in the player (as is the case in my PS3 as it is not able to bitstream such audio--early gen. PS3), then any and all processing can be applied on the LPCM signal sent to the AVR as the processor in the AVR does not have to cope with decoding the bitstream.

So, for anyone who wants to apply post processing to their movie (or music) soundtracks, setting the player to decode the hi-res audio signal (which will make no difference in sound quality--it's simply a matter of unpacking the "zip file" in the player instead of the AVR) is the option that offers the most flexibility (perhaps not what anyone is looking for in here in terms of music playback, but flexibility overall in one's setup is never a bad thing). The only drawback I can find to having the player decode the DTS/DD hi-res audio streams is the AVR's display will only show PCM instead of DTS-MA… or Dolby Digital TrueHD or whatever. A more minor drawback than that is beyond my ability to imagine.
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post #5801 of 7683
6/30/12 at 9:43am
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Originally Posted by Bill Mac View Post

I read over the link quickly and it seems to me to be the authors opinion that with 24/192kHz music there is no improvement. Or is it true and the whole 24/192kHz audio format is a hoax? To be honest I don't really care. I do know that 2CH 24/192kHz mix of the Modern Cool BR is outstanding smile.gif. On this one I let my own ears decide not some blogger trying to convince me I was listening to an inferior audio format. I guess there will always be those trying to discredit some form of audio format or another wink.gif.
Bill

Can't imagine why you would even bother to listen to the stereo track being that you already have the MoFi stereo SACD? I bought this strictly for the multi-channel presentation, and am very happy that I did.

Most whom are regulars to this particular forum are, like myself, smitten with a well recorded, and mixed multichannel presentation. Personally, I have no illusions pertaining to the veracity of the referenced sound quality information. The fact that "high resolution" formats exist, and cater to a different segment of the music buying public in general is a foregone conclusion IMHO. Do we not all understand the absolute critical importance of the recording, and post production processing that truly is responsible for "high resolution"?

In my system, the Oppo 93 decodes the DTS HDMA and sends the 5.1 LPCM to the Anthem D2 at a downsampled 48/24 through the HDMI interface. The results are spectacular, I love the sound of a piano in 3D, and I think they did a great job showcasing the reverb, and echo that was so painstakingly recorded in the original studio sessions. Can't imagine I'll be playing the stereo mix much in the future! biggrin.gif
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post #5802 of 7683
6/30/12 at 11:38am
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Originally Posted by Ovation View Post

MCH hi-res audio is currently "limited" to 96khz because of the DSP processing power required for anything above that. I have an SACD capable PS3 that coverts (depending on the settings I select in the PS3) DSD to PCM at 24/88.2 or 24/176.4. If I want, I can apply post processing (Dolby PLII Music, for example) to the 24/88.2 signal of any 2 channel output of the PS3. However, if I set it to output 24/176.4, I cannot apply any further Dolby PLII processing (nor the DTS equivalent, nor any proprietary processing by Yamaha on my A-1000). The higher sample rate stumps the processor.
Tangentially related (and this is a common limitation across brands, though not always present), my AVR will not apply processing to the lossless DTS tracks from Blu-ray films (Like Spectacle, Standard, etc.) that are bitstreamed from the player (decoding the bitstream and processing the signal is too much for the AVR's processor). If the DTS/DD lossless tracks are decoded in the player (as is the case in my PS3 as it is not able to bitstream such audio--early gen. PS3), then any and all processing can be applied on the LPCM signal sent to the AVR as the processor in the AVR does not have to cope with decoding the bitstream.
So, for anyone who wants to apply post processing to their movie (or music) soundtracks, setting the player to decode the hi-res audio signal (which will make no difference in sound quality--it's simply a matter of unpacking the "zip file" in the player instead of the AVR) is the option that offers the most flexibility (perhaps not what anyone is looking for in here in terms of music playback, but flexibility overall in one's setup is never a bad thing). The only drawback I can find to having the player decode the DTS/DD hi-res audio streams is the AVR's display will only show PCM instead of DTS-MA… or Dolby Digital TrueHD or whatever. A more minor drawback than that is beyond my ability to imagine.

You also need to consider the quality/power of the DACs/audio stream when determining where to do the processing. In my case, my player well exceeds the AQ of the pre/pro, so I decode/convert to LPCM in the player and go analogue to the pre/pro, direct by-pass to amp. In other cases, some users will have better results (i.e. use of room corrections) using DSD to pre/prosreceiversvers for all processing. Very set-up/equipment specific on where to do the processing and everyone's MMD.
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post #5803 of 7683
6/30/12 at 12:01pm
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Originally Posted by Pet Motel View Post

Can't imagine why you would even bother to listen to the stereo track being that you already have the MoFi stereo SACD? I bought this strictly for the multi-channel presentation, and am very happy that I did. Most whom are regulars to this particular forum are, like myself, smitten with a well recorded, and mixed multichannel presentation. Personally, I have no illusions pertaining to the veracity of the referenced sound quality information. The fact that "high resolution" formats exist, and cater to a different segment of the music buying public in general is a foregone conclusion IMHO. Do we not all understand the absolute critical importance of the recording, and post production processing that truly is responsible for "high resolution"?
In my system, the Oppo 93 decodes the DTS HDMA and sends the 5.1 LPCM to the Anthem D2 at a downsampled 48/24 through the HDMI interface. The results are spectacular, I love the sound of a piano in 3D, and I think they did a great job showcasing the reverb, and echo that was so painstakingly recorded in the original studio sessions. Can't imagine I'll be playing the stereo mix much in the future! biggrin.gif
I agree. So far on my equipment there is no audible benefit above 96KHz that I hear. It is much more about the other factors you mentioned. I'll also note that with MC, much of the well-recorded 48KHz sounds pretty darn HiRes to me. And my system is optimized for MC music as well as stereo, not for HT per se.

As for this cool, modern PB BluRay wink.gif I got my 2ch SACD new on sale for 55 thanks to Bill Mac's headsup. Looks like they're OOP and at least 70 used on Big River now. I think I'm gonna get the BluRay and put the SACD up for sale. So I'll have the new disc, $ in my pocket and it'll encourage them to do more such releases.
Edited by SoundofMind - 6/30/12 at 12:08pm
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post #5804 of 7683
6/30/12 at 1:40pm
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Originally Posted by Pet Motel View Post

Can't imagine why you would even bother to listen to the stereo track being that you already have the MoFi stereo SACD? I bought this strictly for the multi-channel presentation, and am very happy that I did.

I bought the Modern Cool BR specifically for the MCH track. But I also enjoy listening to 2CH music so why not listen to the 2CH layer of the BR as well? Am I wrong to do this just because I have the SACD as well? I also listened to the 2CH track as someone over at the SH forum asked me to compare it to the SACD. Ever think that the 2CH layer of the BR might sound better than the SACD? Imagine that wink.gif.

Bill
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post #5805 of 7683
6/30/12 at 11:08pm
Gerry Mulligan "Soft Lights ans Sweet Music" SACD/MSFL/Stereo
Alan Parsons "On Air" DTS 5.1
The Polyphonic Spree "Together We're Heavy" DVD-A...bought it out of curiosity, it was only 4.99.

By the way I managed to find another copy of Stan Getz "Pure Getz" SACD ....again...., just 14.99 :eek, excellent condition....if anybody wants to trade for another Hi-Rez title please PM me....I'm still looking for Propaganda's "Secret Wish" or Aimee Mann "Bachelor 2" among other titles.
Edited by caupina - 6/30/12 at 11:14pm
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post #5806 of 7683
7/1/12 at 7:00am
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Originally Posted by Bill Mac View Post

I read over the link quickly and it seems to me to be the authors opinion that with 24/192kHz music there is no improvement. Or is it true and the whole 24/192kHz audio format is a hoax? To be honest I don't really care. I do know that 2CH 24/192kHz mix of the Modern Cool BR is outstanding smile.gif. On this one I let my own ears decide not some blogger trying to convince me I was listening to an inferior audio format. I guess there will always be those trying to discredit some form of audio format or another wink.gif.
Bill
Yeah, and using science to do it. How nefarious. wink.gif
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post #5807 of 7683
7/1/12 at 7:40am
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Originally Posted by pepar View Post

Yeah, and using science to do it. How nefarious. wink.gif

So the link you provided is totally based on science and in no part the opinions of the author? Is the link gospel technically and will it signal the end of the 24/192kHz audio format? I'm not trying to be argumentive here but I'm curious as to how much the audio community as a whole views the opinions in the link provided. If the information in the link is 100% correct and supported by the audio community it will be good to know. If it isn't and just the opinions of the author supported by science that does not always apply that would be good to know as well.

Bill
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post #5808 of 7683
7/1/12 at 8:49am
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Originally Posted by Bill Mac View Post

So the link you provided is totally based on science and in no part the opinions of the author? Is the link gospel technically and will it signal the end of the 24/192kHz audio format? I'm not trying to be argumentive here but I'm curious as to how much the audio community as a whole views the opinions in the link provided. If the information in the link is 100% correct and supported by the audio community it will be good to know. If it isn't and just the opinions of the author supported by science that does not always apply that would be good to know as well.
Bill

Has all the science disproving the claims of "high end" speaker cables signaled the end of that market? eek.gif Just sayin' wink.gif!

If enogh people drink the koolaide, it will continue to be made. It's of little consequence to me if that's what it takes to get well recorded, mixed, and mastered multi-channel content
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post #5809 of 7683
7/1/12 at 9:14am
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Originally Posted by Bill Mac View Post

So the link you provided is totally based on science and in no part the opinions of the author? Is the link gospel technically and will it signal the end of the 24/192kHz audio format? I'm not trying to be argumentive here but I'm curious as to how much the audio community as a whole views the opinions in the link provided. If the information in the link is 100% correct and supported by the audio community it will be good to know. If it isn't and just the opinions of the author supported by science that does not always apply that would be good to know as well.
Bill

After reading the article I don't know quite what to make of it.
I do find it difficult to believe it's gospel with only one persons take on something.
If it was the whole audio community well then I would say it has real merit.
All I know is that I own a ton of 192/24 bit recordings (HDAD, DVD-A & Blu-ray) and they ALL sound dam good to me.
Seriously doubt I'm going to stop listening to them just because of this article.
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post #5810 of 7683
7/1/12 at 9:40am
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Has all the science disproving the claims of "high end" speaker cables signaled the end of that market? eek.gif Just sayin' wink.gif! If enogh people drink the koolaide, it will continue to be made.

I agree on the "high end" cable example smile.gif. But I'm not sure on the discussion related to 24/192kHz though. Is one really drinking the Kool-Aid just for buying a recording that is already known to sound excellent because it is 24/192kHz?

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It's of little consequence to me if that's what it takes to get well recorded, mixed, and mastered multi-channel content

I agree with you again. Whether it is RBCD, SACD, DVD-A or Bluray if it sounds great what difference does it make. Why the do you only mention MCH content? What about well recorded, mixed, and mastered 2CH content as well? If wasn't for the effort that was put in to the orginal recording of Modern Cool the MCH track on the BR might not be as good as it is.

Just because a recording such as PB's Modern Cool BR is 24/192kHz (2CH track) would the author of the link being discussed not buy it because it is not a valid audio format in his opinion? Would the author not buy any recording in 24/192kHz due to his strong beliefs?

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After reading the article I don't know quite what to make of it.
I do find it difficult to believe it's gospel with only one persons take on something.
If it was the whole audio community well then I would say it has real merit.
All I know is that I own a ton of 192/24 bit recordings (HDAD, DVD-A & Blu-ray) and they ALL sound dam good to me.
Seriously doubt I'm going to stop listening to them just because of this article.

I agree with your thoughts 100% smile.gif.

Bill
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post #5811 of 7683
7/1/12 at 10:50am
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Originally Posted by Bill Mac View Post

I agree with you again. Whether it is RBCD, SACD, DVD-A or Bluray if it sounds great what difference does it make. Why the do you only mention MCH content? What about well recorded, mixed, and mastered 2CH content as well? If wasn't for the effort that was put in to the orginal recording of Modern Cool the MCH track on the BR might not be as good as it is.

Just because a recording such as PB's Modern Cool BR is 24/192kHz (2CH track) would the author of the link being discussed not buy it because it is not a valid audio format in his opinion? Would the author not buy any recording in 24/192kHz due to his strong beliefs?

Bill

The reason I make the distinction between stereo, and multi-channel content is because the "high resolution" formats are the only way to come by the 5.1 mixes.

Please don't misunderstand my views, I hardly ever buy standard CDs any more, they are almost always a disappointment compared to the SACDs, Blu-rays or DVDAs that comprise the bulk of music I've bought over the past ten years. I do, however, have a great belief in scientific methodology. To that end, if industry professionals have done significant ABX studies which verify a certain hypothesis, that constitutes proof to me.

Just as an example, I was once quite surprised to find that Donald Fagen's "Nightfly" DVDA is only 48/24, and the sound quality is amazing to my ears. The simple truth, as I believe it to be, is that the recording, and subsequent processing is of far greater significance than any difference real, or imagined between 48/24 and 192/24. I'm not planning on giving up any of my 192/24 high res music any time soon either.
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post #5812 of 7683
7/1/12 at 11:06am
My take is a well mastered CD will sound very good , a well mastered SACD / DVD A / BLURAY will sound better especially with Multi-Channel ,there is not enough data aval on other formats to support Multi -Channel with out serious compression . 24 bit is more important than a high sampling rate however I find high sampling rates (88 96 and higher)give the music a more lifelike feel .

Mark
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7/2/12 at 7:10am
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Gerry Mulligan "Soft Lights ans Sweet Music" SACD/MSFL/Stereo
Alan Parsons "On Air" DTS 5.1
The Polyphonic Spree "Together We're Heavy" DVD-A...bought it out of curiosity, it was only 4.99.
By the way I managed to find another copy of Stan Getz "Pure Getz" SACD ....again...., just 14.99 :eek, excellent condition....if anybody wants to trade for another Hi-Rez title please PM me....I'm still looking for Propaganda's "Secret Wish" or Aimee Mann "Bachelor 2" among other titles.

Nice buy!

Djoel
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7/2/12 at 11:29am
Dire Straits: Brothers in Arms SACD - great 5.1, great dynamics & detail; should be hybrid, but can't get CD layer to play
John Coltrane: A Love Supreme SACD - wow, great music, great shimmery cymbals
Mike Oldfield: Tubular Bells 2009 Deluxe 2CD + DVD - nice to have the original 1973 version plus the 2009 2.0 and 5.1 remixes
Pink Floyd: Dark Side of the Moon 30th Anniversary SACD - amazing. like all the recommendations say
Queen: A Night at the Opera 30th Anniversary CD + DVD - very nice

Considering:
Cat Stevens: Tea for the Tillerman SACD - $38 and stereo only, but vs. the 2CD Deluxe Edition for $26
Dire Straits: Dire Straits SACD - $64??? do I like the album that much?
Eric Clapton: Slowhand SACD - highly praised, only $15
Jacintha: Autumn Leaves SACD - $26, praised, but I'm not familiar with her music
King Crimson: Discipline CD + DVD-A - $20, waiting for re-stock
Kitaro: Sacred Journey of Ku-Kai SACD - $52, I like Kitaro, but pricey
Lennox & Michael Berkeley: Berkeley Edition 3 SACD - $22, highly praised
Mozart: Amadeus soundtrack SACD - stereo only, but only $24
Muddy Waters: Folk Singer SACD - $32, highly praised
Oliver Nelson Sextet: The Blues and the Abstract Truth SACD - $27
The Beach Boys: Pet Sounds SACD - $28, 2012 Mobile Fidelity remaster; vs: $17 DVD-A version
Yes: Fragile SACD - $54, a little expensive, but I like Yes
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7/2/12 at 12:40pm
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Dire Straits: Brothers in Arms SACD - great 5.1, great dynamics & detail; should be hybrid, but can't get CD layer to play
John Coltrane: A Love Supreme SACD - wow, great music, great shimmery cymbals
Mike Oldfield: Tubular Bells 2009 Deluxe 2CD + DVD - nice to have the original 1973 version plus the 2009 2.0 and 5.1 remixes
Pink Floyd: Dark Side of the Moon 30th Anniversary SACD - amazing. like all the recommendations say
Queen: A Night at the Opera 30th Anniversary CD + DVD - very nice
Considering:
Cat Stevens: Tea for the Tillerman SACD - $38 and stereo only, but vs. the 2CD Deluxe Edition for $26
Dire Straits: Dire Straits SACD - $64??? do I like the album that much?
Eric Clapton: Slowhand SACD - highly praised, only $15
Jacintha: Autumn Leaves SACD - $26, praised, but I'm not familiar with her music
King Crimson: Discipline CD + DVD-A - $20, waiting for re-stock
Kitaro: Sacred Journey of Ku-Kai SACD - $52, I like Kitaro, but pricey
Lennox & Michael Berkeley: Berkeley Edition 3 SACD - $22, highly praised
Mozart: Amadeus soundtrack SACD - stereo only, but only $24
Muddy Waters: Folk Singer SACD - $32, highly praised
Oliver Nelson Sextet: The Blues and the Abstract Truth SACD - $27
The Beach Boys: Pet Sounds SACD - $28, 2012 Mobile Fidelity remaster; vs: $17 DVD-A version
Yes: Fragile SACD - $54, a little expensive, but I like Yes

You should do more searches price wise on your "Considering" titles as many can be bought for less. A few examples are Yes' Fragile SACD for $41.99 and Oliver Nelson Sextet: The Blues and the Abstract Truth SACD for $19.31 both from importcds. Many of the SACDs listed can be bought much cheaper at places like importcds and ebay. It pays to do a little research price wise and also for the sound quality of each specific disc. You should check out www.sa-cd.net as that site is a very helpful tool when researching the sound quality of specific SACDs. I have the Dire Straits S/T SHM-SACD that I paid around $50.00 for awhile back. I would suggest an early non remastered (WG Vertigo) version for much less money. I feel that the SHM-SACDs are grossly over priced and at times the SQ of specific discs is not the best IMO.

Bill
Edited by Bill Mac - 7/2/12 at 12:47pm
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7/2/12 at 1:24pm
Thanks - I used sa-cd.net to start my list, and then matched against reviews at Amazon.com, which is my 1st stop for online purchasing (wide selection, generally good pricing, reliable ETA's, generous return policy, great customer service when needed to rectify the ocassional slip-up, sweet Gold Box deals such as the $549 Denon AVR-3312CI, and I like to limit my billing information to as few vendors as possible). I've found that a hostile return policy can easily spoil any cut-rate pricing a vendor may offer. Ebay is too much for me to navigate, but I've seen importcds favorably mentioned here, so I will definitely check them out. Thanks for looking up and linking "Fragile" and "Blues and the Abstract Truth" for me - I'll probably put in a test order with importcds later this week or next week.

It seems that orchestral classical and jazz music more fully utilize the superior dynamics, resolution, and soundstaging of SACD than the rock/pop that I usually listen to. I've been trying to broaden my familiarity of classical by listening to classical stations on Internet radio, and I've been picking up jazz classics bit by bit ("Blue Train", "Sketches of Spain", "The Magic City"). Paul Weller, New Order, and The Stone Roses are among my favorites, but I don't expect any SACD's from them any time soon. I wish I had gotten into multichannel music a few years ago, before the big price jump.

(And I'm finding that even 2-channel music matrixed to 5-channel output mode can sound great - right now I'm enjoying to King Sunny Ade's "Juju Music" 1982 Island Records CD: the slide guitar weaves and dances with the regular guitar and the drumbeats are creating an infectious party mood on a Monday afternoon.)
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7/2/12 at 1:33pm
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Originally Posted by Brocken_5110 View Post

I'll probably put in a test order with importcds later this week or next week.
It seems that orchestral classical and jazz music more fully utilize the superior dynamics, resolution, and soundstaging of SACD than the rock/pop that I usually listen to.

I've been buying from importcds for a few years with no issues at all. Excellent selection of SACDs and normally the lowest pricing anywhere. Shipping costs are only $1.49 per disc after an initial $1.50 handling fee for the first disc ordered. What is nice about importcds is that you can filter a search for SACDs then chose a genre and then cost from the lowest to the highest. Since I started building an SACD library my listening tastes have gone from classic rock to mostly jazz. I have a few classical SACDs but I have yet to embrace that genre.

Bill
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post #5818 of 7683
7/2/12 at 6:31pm
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Nice buy!
Djoel

Thanks Djoel. Any titles you'd like to trade this one for???. Pm me if you're interested.
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7/3/12 at 6:33pm
Heads up Gents smile.gif Elusive is taking orders for The Doors Nov 12, THE DOORS THE SOFT PARADE SACD, THE DOORS MORRISON HOTEL SACD ANALOGUE PRODUCTIONS M-CH SACD

I just pre ordered both, as I would love to hear Jimmy, and company in hi rez, never purchased the DVD-A of The Door, after being a little disappointed when I first heard it at a friends system, could have been the Bi pole speakers tongue.gif

Anyway I'm truely excited pardon if this info has been posted already Happy Fourth

Dan


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Edited by Djoel - 7/3/12 at 6:39pm
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post #5820 of 7683
7/3/12 at 9:00pm
Nothing to see here, but...

I picked up the Pink Floyd Dark Side of the Moon Immersion Set for $54, and have enjoyed the MCH mixes on Disc 3 quite a bit. I had the "unofficial" Alan Parsons Quad mix already, but having a legit copy with the file intact is even more satisfying.
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