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post #8401 of 9851
It is possible to rip SACDs. I have a hard drive full of SACD ISO's.

Jeff
post #8402 of 9851
I seriously doubt Sony would make it easy to rip SACDs now or in the future.

Bill
post #8403 of 9851
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Originally Posted by pepar View Post

It is possible to rip SACDs. I have a hard drive full of SACD ISO's.

Jeff

Jeff-is the 1st generation PS3 still the only way to rip SACDs?
post #8404 of 9851
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Originally Posted by Bill Mac View Post

I seriously doubt Sony would make it easy to rip SACDs now or in the future.

Bill

I agree. More likely they are dipping a toe into the DSD download market. Seems like a weak showing, IMO.

Jeff
Edited by pepar - 9/6/13 at 2:30pm
post #8405 of 9851
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Originally Posted by holt7153 View Post

Jeff-is the 1st generation PS3 still the only way to rip SACDs?

Has there been more than one generation? Shows what I know. redface.gif

Anyway, the two criteria are that the PS3 be SACD compatible and have firmware that has not been advanced past 3.55.

Jeff
post #8406 of 9851
Hey Jeff I thought I heard some chatter about rolling back the firmware, not too sure how definite it was, but a big win for the little guys who would love to rip these sacd without the hunt for a specific PS3..

I think what Steve was referring to, Fat, slim, 20GB, variations.


Dan
post #8407 of 9851
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Originally Posted by Djoel View Post

Hey Jeff I thought I heard some chatter about rolling back the firmware, not too sure how definite it was, but a big win for the little guys who would love to rip these sacd without the hunt for a specific PS3..

I think what Steve was referring to, Fat, slim, 20GB, variations.


Dan

It is fairly straightforward to rip to DSD with the correct PS3 and the ripping software. It takes about 45 mins per disc. However, if you want to go the next step and convert to pcm/flac, well that is another process. And I do mean process. If they are 2 channel DSD, you can download Korg Audiogate which works fairly well but if you have multichannel DSD there really isn't anything available that doesn't cost big bucks. I have given up on all DSD to pcm/flac conversions even with the proper software (2ch & mch). If just takes too darn long and the sound quality was not the same as the shiny disc. Yes, it could have been (and probably was) operator error but I would rather listen to the music than spend all these hours converting. It is an arduous and tedious process. Just my 2 centavos.
post #8408 of 9851
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Originally Posted by holt7153 View Post

Jeff-is the 1st generation PS3 still the only way to rip SACDs?

Steve,

Here is a thread from Audio Circle that discusses ripping SACDs using the PS3. In the second reply ted_b posted which PS3 versions to look for and the correct FW versions. I never followed up on ripping SACDs but ted_b is quite knowledgeable in the whole process. I would love to do it so I could share all my SACDs with anyone that would be interested. But I'm a total computer idiot so I'd surely screw it up rolleyes.gif.

Just bought:

Sacred Feast - Gaudeamus Multi-channel DMP SACD

I was so impressed with the Steve Davis Project Quality of Silence SACD I have looked for other DMP SACDs. I bought Warren Bernhardt's Amelia's Song SACD which arrived yesterday. I haven't had a chance to listen to it yet but I look forward to it. I read a few reviews that the Sacred Feast - Gaudeamus SACD is an excellent sounding multi-channel SACD. It is also available on DVD-A but it is quite expensive on Amazon.

Bill
post #8409 of 9851
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Originally Posted by Djoel View Post

Hey Jeff I thought I heard some chatter about rolling back the firmware, not too sure how definite it was, but a big win for the little guys who would love to rip these sacd without the hunt for a specific PS3..

I think what Steve was referring to, Fat, slim, 20GB, variations.


Dan

I don't think that degrading firmware has been done yet. And "the hunt" is the most difficult part of ripping SACD.

Gotcha on the "versions" and yes it is only the original. But I think that is due to the others not being SACD compatible.

Jeff
post #8410 of 9851
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Originally Posted by WillyJ View Post

It is fairly straightforward to rip to DSD with the correct PS3 and the ripping software. It takes about 45 mins per disc. However, if you want to go the next step and convert to pcm/flac, well that is another process. And I do mean process. If they are 2 channel DSD, you can download Korg Audiogate which works fairly well but if you have multichannel DSD there really isn't anything available that doesn't cost big bucks. I have given up on all DSD to pcm/flac conversions even with the proper software (2ch & mch). If just takes too darn long and the sound quality was not the same as the shiny disc. Yes, it could have been (and probably was) operator error but I would rather listen to the music than spend all these hours converting. It is an arduous and tedious process. Just my 2 centavos.

The individual behind SACD Ripper is also responsible for a foobar plugin that both plays and converts DSD files. Foobar is free and so are the plugins.

Jeff
post #8411 of 9851
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Originally Posted by pepar View Post

Anyway, the two criteria are that the PS3 be SACD compatible and have firmware that has not been advanced past 3.55.

Thanks-I wasn't sure if this was still the case or if there was a newer/better method.
post #8412 of 9851
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Originally Posted by Bill Mac View Post

Here is a thread from Audio Circle that discusses ripping SACDs using the PS3. In the second reply ted_b posted which PS3 versions to look for and the correct FW versions. I never followed up on ripping SACDs but ted_b is quite knowledgeable in the whole process. I would love to do it so I could share all my SACDs with anyone that would be interested. But I'm a total computer idiot so I'd surely screw it up rolleyes.gif.

thanks, Bill-I'll take a look at that thread. The convenience of having my SACDs ripped and streamed like I do with my Blurays and other media is something I'm definitely interested in.
post #8413 of 9851
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Originally Posted by WillyJ View Post

It is fairly straightforward to rip to DSD with the correct PS3 and the ripping software. It takes about 45 mins per disc. However, if you want to go the next step and convert to pcm/flac, well that is another process. And I do mean process. If they are 2 channel DSD, you can download Korg Audiogate which works fairly well but if you have multichannel DSD there really isn't anything available that doesn't cost big bucks. I have given up on all DSD to pcm/flac conversions even with the proper software (2ch & mch). If just takes too darn long and the sound quality was not the same as the shiny disc. Yes, it could have been (and probably was) operator error but I would rather listen to the music than spend all these hours converting. It is an arduous and tedious process. Just my 2 centavos.

Missed this the first time, YES streaming the native DSD file to a prepro is definitely the way to go. Conversions take time to do and I have not found any that equal the shiny disc. Fortunately, Oppo now streams MCH DSD.

Jeff
post #8414 of 9851
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Originally Posted by WillyJ View Post

Yes, it could have been (and probably was) operator error but I would rather listen to the music than spend all these hours converting. It is an arduous and tedious process. Just my 2 centavos.

Willy,

I would definitely like to have my SACD library on HD for ease of use. But I think the time involved to rip all of my SACDs would be way too time consuming. So until an easier process that is affordable comes along I'll be quite happy to keep spinning the shiny discs smile.gif. So I agree with you as I'd rather spend that time listening to music than spending it ripping them to an HD. But to each his own smile.gif.

Bill
post #8415 of 9851
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Originally Posted by Bill Mac View Post


I would definitely like to have my SACD library on HD for ease of use. But I think the time involved to rip all of my SACDs would be way too time consuming. So until an easier process that is affordable comes along I'll be quite happy to keep spinning the shiny discs smile.gif. So I agree with you as I'd rather spend that time listening to music than spending it ripping them to an HD. But to each his own smile.gif.

Bill

I did all my SACDs, only 50 odd. Didn't take that long as you can click 'start' and walk away, do something else. Actually I found myself ripping on my PS3 and converting the previous ISO to FLAC on my PC, at same time as downloading the cover art and tagging the files all while playing the previous FLACs on my PC. Rediscovered some old favourites I had not heard for a while. The whole experience was a good one. Not painful at all.

Of course, now I have all my SACD, DVD-A and Blu-ray Audio on a media server I'm playing those 'discs' more often. I've also ripped my DVD and Blu-ray video concerts so now have over 200 'albums', mostly multi channel to jukebox.

Also a great relief to have backups of my collection, especially when most are no longer available/out of print and/or very expensive on eBay, or simply impossible to replace.

I found a PS3 here in Australia after quite some search thinking I could resell when done but never found a buyer. Anyone in AU PM if interested.
post #8416 of 9851
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Originally Posted by HomerJau View Post

I did all my SACDs, only 50 odd. Didn't take that long as you can click 'start' and walk away, do something else. Actually I found myself ripping on my PS3 and converting the previous ISO to FLAC on my PC, at same time as downloading the cover art and tagging the files all while playing the previous FLACs on my PC. Rediscovered some old favourites I had not heard for a while. The whole experience was a good one. Not painful at all.

Of course, now I have all my SACD, DVD-A and Blu-ray Audio on a media server I'm playing those 'discs' more often. I've also ripped my DVD and Blu-ray video concerts so now have over 200 'albums', mostly multi channel to jukebox.

Also a great relief to have backups of my collection, especially when most are no longer available/out of print and/or very expensive on eBay, or simply impossible to replace.

I found a PS3 here in Australia after quite some search thinking I could resell when done but never found a buyer. Anyone in AU PM if interested.

Are you not still buying SACD?

There are other forums with an active community of people who post on ripping. Some are from Down Under. Likely you could find a buyer there. Computer Audiophile is, I think, the most active. Here is the last page, explore the whole thread.

Jeff
Edited by pepar - 9/7/13 at 6:48am
post #8417 of 9851
Just bought:

Pilhofer Jazz Quartet - Full Circle multi-channel DMP SACD

I lucked out getting this one as I found a new one at Elusive Disc for $17.99 plus shipping. I was getting ready to post the link so everyone could grab one and there was only one available. I hope it ships and that it is the SACD.

I'm listening to the Warren Bernhardt's Amelia's Song SACD and it is an outstanding sounding SACD smile.gif! The listing for the SACD on Acoustic Sounds mentions that Warren worked with Bill Evans before his death. The music reminds me of many of the Bill Evans albums I have.

Bill
post #8418 of 9851
I have an original (FAT) 60GB PS3 but the FW is probably too updated. Don't think I can go back to an older version...
Looks like I've got some research to do.
post #8419 of 9851
I was visiting a friend last evening and met another forum member pursuing a digital storage/streaming system for his SACD collection that catalogs with tagging. Bitstreaming MCH DSD is main check list item. Anyway, SACD ripping services came up - which I did not know existed! My friend knows a company that offers the service for $3 per title.

I am set for ripping, but for those who don't have the time and/or savvy, this sounds like a viable option. Anyone interested, PM me and I will find out from my friend what the company is.

Jeff
post #8420 of 9851
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Originally Posted by pepar View Post

I was visiting a friend last evening and met another forum member pursuing a digital storage/streaming system for his SACD collection that catalogs with tagging. Bitstreaming MCH DSD is main check list item. Anyway, SACD ripping services came up - which I did not know existed! My friend knows a company that offers the service for $3 per title.

I am set for ripping, but for those who don't have the time and/or savvy, this sounds like a viable option. Anyone interested, PM me and I will find out from my friend what the company is.

Jeff

3 X over 300 sacd,(me)= quite the lucrative business...but feeling like Fredo right about now biggrin.gif
post #8421 of 9851
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Originally Posted by Djoel View Post

3 X over 300 sacd,(me)= quite the lucrative business...but feeling like Fredo right about now biggrin.gif

Funny - we all have our Fredo moments - hopefully when my meltdowns occur there won't be any cameras around.biggrin.gif
post #8422 of 9851
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Originally Posted by Djoel View Post

3 X over 300 sacd,(me)= quite the lucrative business...but feeling like Fredo right about now biggrin.gif

It takes about 15 mins to rip a stereo SACD and about 25 mins to rip an MCH. That is just ripping to ISO and on a somewhat rare and fragile PS3. I would not work myself and my PS3s for $3 per title. Perhaps they know how to build rip-compatible units from non-working units they buy on the cheap? Otherwise, at least from the service provider's standpoint, three bucks is very reasonable.

I'm surprised that there are SACD ripping "services" for intellectual property copyright violation reasons. Me ripping my own titles for my use is one thing. Charging money and doing it en masse for others is a bit scary. IMO, anyone that wants their collection ripped should jump on this before it goes away.

Jeff
Edited by pepar - 9/7/13 at 12:49pm
post #8423 of 9851
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Originally Posted by pepar View Post

It takes about 15 mins to rip a stereo SACD and about 25 mins to rip an MCH. That is just ripping to ISO and on a somewhat rare and fragile PS3. I would not work myself and my PS3s for $3 per title. Perhaps they know how to build rip-compatible units from non-working units they buy on the cheap? Otherwise, at least from the service provider's standpoint, three bucks is very reasonable.

I'm surprised that there are SACD ripping "services" for intellectual property copyright violation reasons. Me ripping my own titles for my use is one thing. Charging money and doing it en masse for others is a bit scary. IMO, anyone that wants their collection ripped should jump on this before it goes away.

Jeff

Jeff,

I agree with your thoughts on how can services that charge for ripping SACDs skirt the legal issues. I think $3 is low as I had one guy contact me and he charged $10 per SACD which to me was a bit steep eek.gif.

Bill
post #8424 of 9851
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Originally Posted by Bill Mac View Post

Jeff,

I agree with your thoughts on how can services that charge for ripping SACDs skirt the legal issues. I think $3 is low as I had one guy contact me and he charged $10 per SACD which to me was a bit steep eek.gif.

Bill

At $3, a 200-title collection might be attractive. At $5, I think it loses it's appeal for all but the well-healed. For someone with a 2000 title collection, well ... I'd bet that they would open/close/insert a lot of shiny discs before they would spend $6k much less $10k.
post #8425 of 9851
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Originally Posted by pepar View Post

Are you not still buying SACD?

There are other forums with an active community of people who post on ripping. Some are from Down Under. Likely you could find a buyer there. Computer Audiophile is, I think, the most active. Here is the last page, explore the whole thread.

Jeff

Thanks Jeff.

I still buy very occasionally, my last was Yes CTTE (stereo). But I will try and sell that now as I have the multichannel Blu-ray Audio on order. I prefer multichannel.
post #8426 of 9851
Just bought:

Bob Mintzer Big Band - Gently multi-channel DMP SACD

Vivino Brothers - Blues Band multi-channel DMP SACD

I'm like a pitbull chewing on a mailmans leg after these DMP Records SACDs biggrin.gif. Did I ever mention that I have a SACD buying problem? Well I guess it keeps me off the streets wink.gif.

Bill
Edited by Bill Mac - 9/7/13 at 6:24pm
post #8427 of 9851
Ordered Slowhand MCH SACD. Received Slowhand CD.
post #8428 of 9851
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Originally Posted by pepar View Post

Ordered Slowhand MCH SACD. Received Slowhand CD.

Where did you order the disc from?

Bill
post #8429 of 9851
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Originally Posted by pepar View Post

Ordered Slowhand MCH SACD. Received Slowhand CD.



I hate when that happens, I just went through this from an over seas vendor , who didn't speak the languish, who when I complaint asked me didn't I notice the difference between the prices sacd and the redbook...

I said, I thought I was getting a deal, and wasn't too sure there were CD that went for 45 bucks, rolleyes.gif

DJoel
post #8430 of 9851
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Originally Posted by Djoel View Post

I hate when that happens, I just went through this from an over seas vendor , who didn't speak the languish, who when I complaint asked me didn't I notice the difference between the prices sacd and the redbook...

I said, I thought I was getting a deal, and wasn't too sure there were CD that went for 45 bucks, rolleyes.gif

DJoel

Dan,

Which "SACD" was it? That is a great attitude that seller had rolleyes.gif. Definitely leave him some choice feedback if you can.

Bill
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