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post #8971 of 9848
I just listened to about four or five tracks from Nonsuch on youtube. To be honest the music didn't do much for me so I'll pass on the SW version. I'm sure it is an excellent 5.1 mix but if one isn't into the music.........

Bill
post #8972 of 9848
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Originally Posted by kevin j View Post

XTC-Nonsuch

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post #8973 of 9848
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Originally Posted by Bill Mac View Post

I just listened to about four or five tracks from Nonsuch on youtube. To be honest the music didn't do much for me so I'll pass on the SW version. I'm sure it is an excellent 5.1 mix but if one isn't into the music.........

Bill

Did the same thing. I wasn't a fan in stereo, so I don't think 5.1 will change the music ... or my tastes.

I will say that I am mightily impressed at how SW is getting around .. and how his evangelizing is breathing new life into old music.

Jeff
post #8974 of 9848
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Originally Posted by Bill Mac View Post

I just listened to about four or five tracks from Nonsuch on youtube. To be honest the music didn't do much for me so I'll pass on the SW version. I'm sure it is an excellent 5.1 mix but if one isn't into the music.........

Bill

Significant difference between listening to youtube and this release...even when only evaluating if you like the music. My first listen was "sounds good, but the music...not so sure about"...so I understand your initial impression. For me, this was another "grows on you" album. My favorite tracks: The Ballad of Peter Pumpkinhead, The Smartest Monkeys, The Disappointed, War Dance, and Books are Burning.

Too each their own, but don't bail too quick :-)
post #8975 of 9848
I know about 5-6 XTC hits but none are on this album. I did the YouTube thing as well and will pass.
post #8976 of 9848
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Originally Posted by USAFChief View Post

Jeff,

I was able to A, B and C using the Original US release, MFSL Gold CD and The Blu-Ray...I would rank them 1) Blu-ray, 2) Orignal US release, 3) MFSL. The blu-ray was really the clear winner and it wasn't what I remembered or expected...or close to the redbooks.

Well, darn it Martin, now I guess I need to get one. (Done. $16.45 + $4 shipping) Your "review" is excellent and exactly what I was seeking!

Jeff
post #8977 of 9848
Add me to the list of those who would like to see Even In The Quietest Moments and Crime Of The Century in hi-res. BinA just got played too much on AOR stations back in the day and came out about the time I was going into my "alternative" phase.

XTC-Nonsuch. My copy showed up a few days ago but haven't had a chance to throw it in.
post #8978 of 9848
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Originally Posted by holt7153 View Post

I know about 5-6 XTC hits but none are on this album. I did the YouTube thing as well and will pass.

Hmm.. I have most if not all the XTC stuff and I always thought The Ballad of Peter Pumpkinhead was one of their bigger "hits". I will admit Nonsuch is closer to my 3rd or 4th favorite XTC album but still very nice.
post #8979 of 9848
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Originally Posted by pepar View Post

Well, darn it Martin, now I guess I need to get one. (Done. $16.45 + $4 shipping) Your "review" is excellent and exactly what I was seeking!

Jeff

Funny, before I compaired the 3, I was somewhat disapointed...after compairing, I'm more satisfied. Really wish we could get these Supertramps in 5.1.
post #8980 of 9848
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Originally Posted by holt7153 View Post

I know about 5-6 XTC hits but none are on this album. I did the YouTube thing as well and will pass.

"In Hoc" and secret handshake back at you...Beta Sigma chapter here (U of Tenn)
post #8981 of 9848
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Originally Posted by obie_fl View Post

Hmm.. I have most if not all the XTC stuff and I always thought The Ballad of Peter Pumpkinhead was one of their bigger "hits".

Not saying it wasn't a hit, just that I don't think I heard it before today. Now back in the day these were the songs that were played ad nauseum over the L.A. radio waves:

-Dear God
-Senses Working Overtime
-Making Plans For Nigel
-The Mayor of Simpleton
-Generals and Majors
post #8982 of 9848
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"In Hoc" and secret handshake back at you...Beta Sigma chapter here (U of Tenn)

I knew there was something I liked about you smile.gif. Zeta Xi/Cal State Northridge
post #8983 of 9848
Music you remember is so much a factor of where you were in space in time. All those XTC songs you mentioned were 70s, 80's releases. Nonsuch didn't come out until 92. Even though I think XTC may have peaked in the early 80s they still did some really great work after that.
post #8984 of 9848
That's a good point-I didn't realize Nonsuch was released well after those others. I think in '92 I was knee deep in grunge.
post #8985 of 9848
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Originally Posted by holt7153 View Post

I knew there was something I liked about you smile.gif. Zeta Xi/Cal State Northridge

Phi Zappa Krappa for me.
post #8986 of 9848
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Phi Zappa Krappa for me.

The I Eta Pi chapter?
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The I Eta Pi chapter?

Before the transfer it was the I Felta Thi chapter.
post #8988 of 9848
XTC "hits" that come to my mind.

This is Pop
Making Plans for Nigel
Life Begins at the Hop
Towers of London
Generals and Majors
Senses Working Overtime
No Thugs in our House
Ball and Chain
Love on a Farm Boy's Wages
Wonderland
Earn Enough for Us
Mayor of Simpleton
Peter Pumpkinhead
Oranges and Lemons is vastly over looked and I predict will benefit the most from Steven Wilson's treatment.

That said, Nonsuch while good, is nowhere near the pinnacle of XTC's recorded output and not representative of their previous albums.
Black Sea and English Settlement will be brilliant
The best is yet to come.
post #8989 of 9848
I'm also surprised that there's not more affection for the music of XTC. Andy Partridge writes some of the cleverest lyrics contained in pop songs...pop songs which often expand and explore the normal bounds of traditional pop music.

Although Nonsuch is not my favorite XTC album, but there's more than enough on it to keep me engaged when I listen to it.
post #8990 of 9848
I purchased Miles Davis, Kind of Blue @ 192/24 from HD Tracks. The guys at computer audiophile are raving over this release. It is avaiable in both a stereo and mono version. From the HD Tracks website:
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"Since the Kind of Blue mixed masters are multiple generations from the original (due to excessive play/wear), we decided to go directly to the original session reels. Not only does this put us at the original session as a starting point, but it also allows us to deal with the pitch issue as well.

The three, 3-track half-inch tapes are in good condition, but age has force them to “scallop” a little, meaning that the edges curl away from the tape head. This changed the initial focus from mixing from the originals to archiving them before mixing and working from the archive files. This allowed us to gently guide the tape against the playback head to get optimal contact and fidelity.

The archiving was done at 192kHz/24 bits, played from a modified Ampex ATR 104, and hard-wired to HDCD Model 2’s directly patched to a Lynx 2 sound card.

An upside to working from the archive files was the ability to chase the original fader moves done during the mix in 1959. We constantly compared to an early pressing - mono and stereo - and worked bar by bar to duplicate the level moves on the three tracks to match as well as possible.

Each channel was converted to analog and passed through a GML mixer, bussed to stereo or mono - depending on the release format - and converted once again to 192Kc/24 bits. At the GML, we inserted processing where needed.”

– Mark Wilder, Battery Studios
post #8991 of 9848
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Originally Posted by glangford View Post

I purchased Miles Davis, Kind of Blue @ 192/24 from HD Tracks. The guys at computer audiophile are raving over this release. It is avaiable in both a stereo and mono version. From the HD Tracks website:

Were those quotes from Mark Wilder for work he did specifically on the HD Tracks version of Kind of Blue?

Bill
post #8992 of 9848
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Originally Posted by glangford View Post

I purchased Miles Davis, Kind of Blue @ 192/24 from HD Tracks. The guys at computer audiophile are raving over this release. It is avaiable in both a stereo and mono version. From the HD Tracks website:

"Since the Kind of Blue mixed masters are multiple generations from the original (due to excessive play/wear), we decided to go directly to the original session reels. Not only does this put us at the original session as a starting point, but it also allows us to deal with the pitch issue as well.

... singin' my song ... smile.gif
post #8993 of 9848
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Originally Posted by Bill Mac View Post

Were those quotes from Mark Wilder for work he did specifically on the HD Tracks version of Kind of Blue?

Bill

I'm pretty positive they're not as I remember reading about the last re-work of the Kind of Blue tapes a few years back.
post #8994 of 9848
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Originally Posted by Milt99 View Post

I'm pretty positive they're not as I remember reading about the last re-work of the Kind of Blue tapes a few years back.

Milt,

I'd have to agree with you on that. I have no experience with HD Tracks or any type of music downloads. But I can't see HD Tracks hiring Mark Wilder to remaster Kind of Blue specifically for them. It's like the recent UMe HFPA Blu-ray audio discs. In no way do I believe any of those releases have been remastered for HFPA. I feel UMe is using current mastering and selling it as the new latest and greatest format rolleyes.gif.

Bill
post #8995 of 9848
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Originally Posted by Bill Mac View Post

Milt,

I'd have to agree with you on that. I have no experience with HD Tracks or any type of music downloads. But I can't see HD Tracks hiring Mark Wilder to remaster Kind of Blue specifically for them. It's like the recent UMe HFPA Blu-ray audio discs. In no way do I believe any of those releases have been remastered for HFPA. I feel UMe is using current mastering and selling it as the new latest and greatest format rolleyes.gif.

Bill

Re UME: For the 3rd time. Next it will be HFPA downloads.
post #8996 of 9848
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Originally Posted by Bill Mac View Post

I just listened to about four or five tracks from Nonsuch on youtube. To be honest the music didn't do much for me so I'll pass on the SW version. I'm sure it is an excellent 5.1 mix but if one isn't into the music.........

Bill

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Originally Posted by pepar View Post

Did the same thing. I wasn't a fan in stereo, so I don't think 5.1 will change the music ... or my tastes.

I will say that I am mightily impressed at how SW is getting around .. and how his evangelizing is breathing new life into old music.

Jeff

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Originally Posted by holt7153 View Post

I know about 5-6 XTC hits but none are on this album. I did the YouTube thing as well and will pass.

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Originally Posted by Milt99 View Post

XTC "hits" that come to my mind.

This is Pop
Making Plans for Nigel
Life Begins at the Hop
Towers of London
Generals and Majors
Senses Working Overtime
No Thugs in our House
Ball and Chain
Love on a Farm Boy's Wages
Wonderland
Earn Enough for Us
Mayor of Simpleton
Peter Pumpkinhead
Oranges and Lemons is vastly over looked and I predict will benefit the most from Steven Wilson's treatment.

That said, Nonsuch while good, is nowhere near the pinnacle of XTC's recorded output and not representative of their previous albums.
Black Sea and English Settlement will be brilliant
The best is yet to come.

Milt is right on here! While Nonsuch is a good XTC album, Drums and Wires and English Settlement are great albums by any standard. I have had the CDs in my collection for 20+ years and Nonsuch has been least played by a huge margin. Drums and Wires and English Settlement I have played hundreds of times each, were Nonsuch less than 10 times...
post #8997 of 9848
I just received my Wish You Were Here SACD and had a nice listening at reference last night. Some really great stuff there. I think may be a better mix than Dark Side of the Moon, but I need to spend a little more time with it to make that call though.

Great addition to the library, that's for sure.
post #8998 of 9848
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Originally Posted by Bill Mac View Post

Were those quotes from Mark Wilder for work he did specifically on the HD Tracks version of Kind of Blue?

Bill
I believe so. I got the quote from the hd tracks website. Whether it was done exclusively for them or for another sacd release as well is unknown. There is some discussion of a coming mofi sacd release. It sounds really good. Spectrum plots show full frequency with no brick wall, as well as a DR of 14

Review on audiostream
Edited by glangford - 11/21/13 at 11:05am
post #8999 of 9848
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Originally Posted by himey View Post




Milt is right on here! While Nonsuch is a good XTC album, Drums and Wires and English Settlement are great albums by any standard. I have had the CDs in my collection for 20+ years and Nonsuch has been least played by a huge margin. Drums and Wires and English Settlement I have played hundreds of times each, were Nonsuch less than 10 times...

Let's not forget Black Sea smile.gif
I originally bought the neutered US vinyl version of English Settlement and then found the UK double-album.
Wow.
I'm pretty sure that Skylarking was their biggest seller.
post #9000 of 9848
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Originally Posted by Milt99 View Post

Let's not forget Black Sea smile.gif
I originally bought the neutered US vinyl version of English Settlement and then found the UK double-album.
Wow.
I'm pretty sure that Skylarking was their biggest seller.

I somehow overlooked Black Sea but I have always liked the track Respectable Street...
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