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post #31 of 250
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Originally Posted by Gary Merson View Post

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Its glossy on the front, top and sides like a Drakes " Ring Ding" (for those of you in Drakes Cakes territory.

From a Samsung spokeperson "After the firmware upgrade, the player will support both HDMI and analog output for not only Dolby TrueHD, but also DD+, dts-HD HR and MA."

The choices for speaker management are off/small/large and there appears to be options for the .1 subwoofer, but they were glitched on the pre-production sample.

Thanks for the answers!

But does this mean I cannot enter a delay/distance for the speakers? I don't think my AV amp can apply a delay to the analog ins - so the speaker management and the analog outs of the Samsung are useless unless ALL your speakers are in the same distance from your listening position. Bummer.
post #32 of 250
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Originally Posted by A/Vspec View Post

I would think if the Samsung makes you confirm 1080/24p output before it changes over that it would output anything you put in it at that format?

I am sure Gary can shed some light on this...

I don't think so (though I'm sure someone can correct me if I'm wrong). I believe the Samsung unit makes you confirm it so that you won't get a blank screen (or weirdness) if your display is unable to accept a 1080p/24fps signal (that's how I read it in the article). For example, my projector accepts a 1080p/24 signal, so I would confirm YES. However, my friend's plasma TV does NOT accept such a signal, so he would confirm NO. I don't think the machine will ask you to confirm either way at all unless it reads a disc with 1080p/24 information on it (in other words, it won't offer the option with any other source).
post #33 of 250
Thread Starter 
Ovation you have it right , the function is to prevent a blank screen with displays that can't accept 1080p/24.

AFAIK there are no regional codes on HD DVDs, so it will play any HD DVD disc. SD DVDs have regional codes.
post #34 of 250
Whats the msrp going to be for this player?
post #35 of 250
$999
post #36 of 250
Not a bad price I guess but it would be great when there is a $700 or less dual format player.
post #37 of 250
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The choices for speaker management are off/small/large

Crap. Just when I was pretty much sold on this player, if I am interpreting you right there are no delay settings for each channel. That is a complete deal-breaker for me - even moreso than if it had a fixed crossover (the ".1 options" you mention could be a variable c/o). It will be a complete bummer if they deliver a player with all the functionality I want, except for something as basic as proper speaker management. Talk about clipping the little toe from an 800 lb gorilla ...
post #38 of 250
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Originally Posted by Robert D View Post

Not a bad price I guess but it would be great when there is a $700 or less dual format player.

I would expect that it will street for a reasonable discount; may not be long before you can get it for the price you're looking for.
post #39 of 250
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Originally Posted by Vader424242 View Post

Crap. Just when I was pretty much sold on this player, if I am interpreting you right there are no delay settings for each channel. That is a complete deal-breaker for me - even moreso than if it had a fixed crossover (the ".1 options" you mention could be a variable c/o). It will be a complete bummer if they deliver a player with all the functionality I want, except for something as basic as proper bass management. Talk about clipping the little toe from an 800 lb gorilla ...

Nah, just don't make the mistake of focusing on video over capable audio next time, and bass management won't mean quite as much
post #40 of 250
Gary, does it have front panel inputs, and if so what are they?

Thanks!
post #41 of 250
Well, I just looked at the docs for the 1400, and it has crippled bass/speaker management (ie. fixed c/o & no distance settings) like its predecessor (the 1200). Unless they change that for the 2400/5000, Samsung just sold me on the Onkyo 805 (and I will get a Panny SAP at a later date)...
post #42 of 250
Any suggestion on the best place to preorder this player? I think it would be perfect for the pro110fd that I have on order.
Thanks,
Terry
post #43 of 250
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Originally Posted by tnb1 View Post

Any suggestion on the best place to preorder this player? I think it would be perfect for the pro110fd that I have on order.
Thanks,
Terry

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post #44 of 250
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Originally Posted by Vader424242 View Post

Crap. Just when I was pretty much sold on this player, if I am interpreting you right there are no delay settings for each channel. That is a complete deal-breaker for me - even moreso than if it had a fixed crossover (the ".1 options" you mention could be a variable c/o). It will be a complete bummer if they deliver a player with all the functionality I want, except for something as basic as proper speaker management. Talk about clipping the little toe from an 800 lb gorilla ...

Maybe I'm misinterpreting your statement, but can you control delay from the receiver? Or, if using analog, does it have to be done on the player?
post #45 of 250
Using analog it would need to be controlled from the player. No issue with HDMI.
post #46 of 250
There are a few receivers (mine for one) that allow bass management and time alignment via the MCH inputs, but generally, it is not available.
post #47 of 250
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Originally Posted by Ovation View Post

The material on SD DVD is already converted from 24fps to 60fps on the disc.

Are you sure about that?

Most SD discs are encoded at 24fps and the pulldown added by the player, unless thats what you meant to say.
post #48 of 250
has a release date been set?
post #49 of 250
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Originally Posted by sanderdvd View Post

has a release date been set?

At CEDIA I was told 12/07 by the reps at Samsung. That would fulfill the promise of Q4 07.
post #50 of 250
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Originally Posted by tyree91 View Post

At CEDIA I was told 12/07 by the reps at Samsung. That would fulfill the promise of Q4 07.

That would suck. I want it in October!
post #51 of 250
lets hope its region free on dvd. wonder when it hits oz
post #52 of 250
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Originally Posted by Ovation View Post

There are a few receivers (mine for one) that allow bass management and time alignment via the MCH inputs, but generally, it is not available.

My receiver asks me the distance each speaker is from the listener's position. Is that the same as time alignment? I've never used the analog 5.1 inputs so I'm not too familiar with setting them up.
post #53 of 250
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Originally Posted by ToddUGA View Post

My receiver asks me the distance each speaker is from the listener's position. Is that the same as time alignment? I've never used the analog 5.1 inputs so I'm not too familiar with setting them up.

Yes, it's the same. However, the majority of receivers disable all processing for the MCH analogue inputs so if the player doesn't have much functionality, you're kind of stuck. My receiver, however, does an A/D/A conversion that allows me to apply the bass management and time alignment settings to any signal coming in. It won't do anything else to the signal (not even adjust the levels, I have to do that in the player). Conventional wisdom has it that an A/D/A conversion leads to a sonic degradation but, if so, I haven't heard it. However, if I DON'T use that feature on my receiver, I have no time alignment for SACD, and the crossover in my player is both at a higher frequency than I want (100hz rather than the 80hz I employ with my receiver) and at a gentler slope (6db/12db rather than the steeper 12/24 of my receiver) and I DO hear those differences. I have A/B'ed the two and prefer to have the more flexible bass management and the available time alignment of my receiver, even though the signal is "less pure". If ever I have a room where I can set all the speakers equidistantly from my listening position, as well as a selectable crossover frequency in the player (ideally with a steeper slope than my current player), then I could forgo the extra processing. But we (most of us, anyway) all have to compromise somewhere and as my current "compromise" works so well with hi-res audio, I will use it with any hi-def player I can find (it will only need to have level adjustment capabilities--the rest will be handled by my receiver).
post #54 of 250
I've got an older Pioneer VSX D414 receiver. I'll have to check and see if it allows bass management via analogs. If not, then I've been looking for a reason to finally upgrade my receiver (I'm sure the wife won't be happy to hear this).
post #55 of 250
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Originally Posted by tyree91 View Post

At CEDIA I was told 12/07 by the reps at Samsung. That would fulfill the promise of Q4 07.

And it would also suck major you-know-what if it's December instead of late Oct. or early Nov.
post #56 of 250
Amazon is stating Nov.1.07 availability.
post #57 of 250
one call already has this listed on their site as an item though the availability is "on order".
post #58 of 250
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Originally Posted by Pocket Aces View Post

one call already has this listed on their site as an item though the availability is "on order".

They had that there weeks before CEDIA.

Before Samsung even announced it.
post #59 of 250
I was wondering if someone can clarify the bolded parts of this paragraph, taken from the article.

"The Digital Video Essentials HD DVD confirmed full bandwidth output at 1080p (60) reproducing the single pixel on/off vertical and horizontal lines on the 1080p 50 (TH-59PZ750) Panasonic plasma used for this evaluation. The Blu-ray version of the Silicon Optix HQV test disc confirmed perfect deinterlacing of 1080i content (found in music videos) as well as perfect 3:2 cadence for film based sources, producing an artifact free image. This is important, as the vast majority of 2007 HDTVs tested (74 to date) still do not properly convert 24 fps content to 60 fps. Using the Samsung BD-UP5000 at 1080p/60 output connected to a display 1080p display that accepts this signal should eliminate this issue by bypassing the displays inferior internal scaler.
Color bars were accurately reproduced with proper saturation. There are no player picture controls (color, tint, contrast etc.) but considering the accuracy of its output, I do not feel they are necessary."

The first bolded sentence - is he referring to 2007 HDTVs that just "accept" a 1080P signal. That is, they can take/accept a 1080P 24fps signal but convert it to the sets native resolution.
Or, is he referring to 2007 HDTVs that are 1080P 60. That is, they can take/accept a 1080P 24fps signal but convert it to 1080P 60 (60hz). In order words they are not "true" 1080p sets than can handle 1080p 24 fps content at 24hz. I know the Pio 5080 is only 768P but can handle 1080P 24fps since it can do 72 hz 3:3 pulldown.

I ask this because I will be getting this player but I don't know if I should get the pio -5080 768p capable of 24hz or the pio 5010 1080P also capable of 24Hz.

Anyone??

Thanks

Paul
post #60 of 250
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Originally Posted by rexdigital View Post

Are you sure about that?

Most SD discs are encoded at 24fps and the pulldown added by the player, unless thats what you meant to say.

What? As far as I know, SD DVD are only ever stored in 480i/60 and 576i/50.
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