The "Official" Denon AVR-2808CI Owners Thread - Page 66

jdsmoothie- ran audessy in the new receiver. noticed that my levels at 63hz is being dialed down (-4.5). Any good resources to understanding the EQ settings so that i may dial them to my preferance?Thanks again yeah i got those rtia9 for 850 for thr pr.

spending a few hours browsing around the official Audyssey thread, following a few discussions and seeing the issues/questions that keep cropping up will be the most valuable lesson you can have. no need to read the whole, ridiculously long thread, as there will be many repeat discussions, but reading the first 500 posts or so and then catching up on the last 1-2 months of discussion will be very educational.

if Audyssey is dialing down your speakers at 63Hz that means there is something about your room causing bass to bloat at that freq. maybe the speakers are too close to the walls (boundary reinforcement), maybe it's just the way your room is, but Audyssey is just trying to smooth out all those peaks and valleys in your room's response.

Yes, the TV is capable of displaying 1080p/24 and 1080p/60.

Yes I can connect directly to the television via HDMI and display 1080p from the HR22

Thank you for the clarification. In trying to solve a problem it's important to make sure we're all using the correct/same terminology as often times the problem can be solved by the OP himself when the OP understands what is actually occurring with the audio, or in this case video. It also helps to let us know what you've tried to solve the problem already. Thanks for the connectivity you're using as that helps as well. Since you have confirmed your TV can accept and display a 1080p/24 signal directly from the HR 22 without issue, then the issue most likely resides inside the Denon. An HDMI video signal is supposed to be simply passed through the Denon without interruption. If your DVD player is sending 1080p/24 (vice 1080p/60) without issue to the Denon via the DVD HDMI jack have you tried swapping the cable from the HR 22 from the HDP to the DVD HDMI inputs? As a number of posters have learned, HDMI connectivity can be iffy with Denon AVRs and some components.

Wow! 2 for the price of 1! Great deal! As batpig suggested, if you want more detail about Audyssey settings, your best bet is to go to the best source which is the Official Audyssey Thread.

What is the difference between the 2808 and the 988. If I buy the amazon 988, will it be just like the 2808? or is it better to buy the 2809 because of better upgrades in the systems?
Thanks

If you're in the market now .. the better buy would be the 2809 or 989 for the new Audyssey Dynamic Volume and EQ, "2" additional HDMI jacks as well as HDMI Control (passes through HDMI signal with unit in Standby) features. On last year's models, the 2808 and 988, the 2808 is different from the 988 in that it comes with a better (programmable) main remote, a 2nd Zone 2/3 remote, and sends audio to a 3rd zone. The 988 only does 2 zones and only has a single main remote. If you don't need these features, then stick with the 988, although some vendors are actually selling the 988 for more than the 2808. Although the 3 digit Denon model AVRS (big box version) are basically the same as the Denon 4 digit models, there are some subtle differences and therefore the 4 digit models are the better buy if offered at the same price or less.

Depends on whether you think those "upgrades" are worth the (current) price differential.

Of course, although a consideration for any other model being compared as well.

jd: I have just replaced my back surround speakers (6 and 7chs) and would like to reset the crossover to 100 as suggested by their manufacturer. These speakers are set to "small".

p.27 of the 988 manual says:

"Advanced" "Set the crossover frequency separately for the different speakers." I can't find instructions in the manual to do that separately for each speaker. Can you help?

Thank you

Mike A.

Supposedly the receiver is xm ready. Now that xm has merged with sirius, would I be able to get the sirius antenna and use it with the 2808. I subscribe to sirius in my vehicle, but it sure would be nice to add sirius to it. Thanks in advance.

just keep cycling through the freq. options for the crossover until it says "Advanced", and then all the individual channels will appear.

just because they merged doesn't mean the hardware suddenly will become compatible. your sirius units use a completely different plug than the xm units.

you would still need to purchase xm hardware (the antenna and home tuner kit), but can now access sirius content with it. I'm not sure exactly how that works, but I'm sure there is a FAQ at sirius.com or xmradio.com that explains the merger details.

Done!!!!! Thanks batpig.

(I can be so stupid sometimes)

Mike A.

If you've already run Audyssey, the menu should already be be showing the "Advanced" setting with the individual crossovers for each set of speakers (unless they were all the same). And although you can of course manually set your new back surrounds to 100, you should rerun Audyssey considering you've got new speakers with apparently new frequency ranges.

Was watching TV and decided to change the DSP mode to see what it would do. Now I cant get it back to the PLII Cinema that the installer set it up as. I have gone into the parameter menu but no where does it say how to get the PLII Cinema mode back. Right now it seems I have it locked into the 5 CH mode. Dont want to screw it up worse as I have guests coming later this afternoon.

No worries. You pressed the SIMU button to cycle through the different DSP modes. Just press the STD button (above it) to cycle through to Dolby PLII Cinema. If you're watching an HD channel in DD 5.1 it will just say Dolby Digital 5.1. Change it to an SD channel and you should then see Dolby PLII Cinema.

jd: Thanks- I plan to rerun Audyssey after my new rears (and sides) have had some time to break in a bit. Energy recommends it for their speakers,although I have always been skeptical about it. Just didn't want to take a chance with the new R-C Minis in the interim.

(I am considering a new set of mains as well, I could tell my wife that they would then all break in at the same time, thereby saving time and duplication of effort)

Mike A.

Just did that and it goes to Dolby Digital but nothing else. Doesnt go to the PLII cinema mode.

jdsmoothie, just read the rest of your post....duhhhh I went to another channel and it did read the PLII Cinema. When I went back to the HDTV it changed back to the Dolby Digital

[quote=mpa;15239816](I am considering a new set of mains as well, I could tell my wife that they would then all break in at the same time, thereby saving time and duplication of effort)

Make sure you let us know if that works for you.

jdsmoothie....Thanks.. Its working as it was. Guess I need to keep my hands out of the cabinet....Thanks again

LOVE my receiver. The HT is so much better than my 5 year old Yamaha! I got my Sony BDP-S350 Blu ray player on Friday and believe it or not I only have 2 questions that I could not find the absolute answer to in previous posts and the manual.

1 - I rented 2 blu-ray movies this weekend. Get Smart only has a Dolby Digital 5.1 soundtrack and the receiver showed the input as multi-channel in. I assumed that was correct based on the signal coming in. BUT, when I watched 10,000 BC, a blu-ray that has a Dolby True HD soundtrack, the receiver still showed the input as multi-channel in. I looked on the chart near the beginning of the manual and it indicates I should see a light showing Dolby True HD. Do I have something set up wrong? I have the DVD player set on automatic.

2 - Do I have this wired correctly? I have my HDMI cable going from the Blu ray player to HDMI1 and my HDMI cable going from the cable box to HDMI2. All is GREAT with my picture and sound. For the zone 2 audio, I have an optical cable going from the DVD player to Optical1 and a coax cable going from the cable box to Coax1. When I assign the inputs, for the DVD I have the HDMI assigned to HDMI1 and the digital in assigned to Optical1. For the TV/Cable, I have the HDMI assigned to HDMI2 and the digital in assigned to COAX1. I want to be sure that this is not messing up my HDMI audio signals to the receiver and is set up correctly to play audio to zone 2.

Thanks for the response!

1. I don't know about your specific BDP, but you should not be seeing MULTI CH IN if you set it to BITSTREAM the audio soundtracks. The fact that you ARE seeing MULTI CH IN means that your players is decoding the audio first, and sending it to the receiver as PCM.

Not that this is a problem, per se, but since you've got a receiver that decodes everything, you may as well see those lights come on!

2. Sounds right, just make sure the input mode is set to "auto" and it will automatically prioritize the audio inputs, HDMI having first priority.

On a side note, for Zone 2 audio it would probably be easier to use analog cables, not optical. For one, you aren't hogging the digital inputs.... second, while the receiver can send digital audio to Zone 2, it can ONLY do it with 2-channel PCM. It won't "downsample" a 5.1 soundtrack to 2-channel output for Zone 2, so you may run into issues with your current setup.

I have plenty of red/white RCA cables and I will change that on the DVD player tonight. Still waiting to get the cable service changed over to AT&T u-verse even though they were at my house from 10 am to 7 pm Saturday. Another story, but my internet is STILL DOWN at my house. My 14 year old daughter is having withdrawals and I was trying to read this thread on my Blackberry. I'll run the analog cables once that is squared away.

Sounds like you are saying I need to tell my blu ray player NOT to decode the audio, so I will look at those settings again. I have everything set on auto or dolby digital, but I remember seeing some downmix and normal audio options in the setup menu. I'll try those tonight. Thanks!

I have the same combo; 350 and 2808. You just need to set your BluRay audio options on the player to Bitstream and not downmix (you only need downmix for listening to PIP extras IIRC). You should then see the magic DTS MA/ Dolby HD, Dolby Digital according to the disc. You should be able to press 'display' on the player's remote and it will show on screen what soundtrack you are listening to top right of screen and the 2808 should match.

DUH-I didn't know you could select different audio tracks. It is working perfectly and I see that beautiful Dolby True HD on my display. Thanks.

Me again. Does the 988 store the last EQ setting used? I like the Audyssey EQ setting (it sounds good and it makes another light come on), but it seems like I am having to turn this on each time. Is that my imagination or do I need to remember to turn it on each time? I have been cruising around the settings and experimenting a lot, so I could easily be messing it up. I read the manual section on this but could not find this answer relating to the EQ setting. 10,000 BC in Blu-ray video and Dolby True HD audio was GREAT! Thanks again for all the help and patience.

In the AUTO SETUP menu, under OPTIONS, there is a setting where you can set Audyssey EQ to "ALL" or "ASSIGN." If you just want to use the Audyssey EQ curve for everything, make sure to put it on "ALL" and then it will stay on that setting. If you put it on "ASSIGN" you could, for example, put 5/7 CH STEREO mode on "Flat" and other modes on "Audyssey".

Either way though, it should be remembering what Audyssey EQ curve you are using. Just in case, make sure AUTO SURROUND MODE is turned to ON under MANUAL SETUP > AUDIO SETUP, or else the Denon won't remember what settings you prefer.

If in your "experimenting" you happened to change your setup to 7.1 (when Audyssey was run previously using a 5.1 setup) you will disengage Audyssey and the saved settings will have to be restored in order to turn it back on.