Originally Posted by portbarton
I would be happy to.
1) There is no video downconversion. That means component and HMDI inputs cannot be output through analog (composite or Svideo) outputs. I have a DVD recorder, a DVR and an Archos that only have analog inputs. Basically, none of these units can be hookup to this receiver. I have no interest in copying DVD's etc. I want my DVR to time shift (cant do it because my cable box outputs digital OR analog only). I want my DVD recorder to make DVD's from my home movies from my apple TV (can't do it because apple TV only has digital outputs) and I want to use my archos to monitor my apple tv when I am using it to listen to music (can't do that either so I am now forced to have my TV on when I want to listen to music)
2) The upconverter will not upconvert low resolution analog sources. An example of a low res source is the GUI of my Archos (it has a remote control, but I cannot use it because I cannot see the picture on My TV.) Another example is the title screen of my DVD player. When I turn on my DVD player, the title screen will not be seen on my TV. I will only see an image once the DVD starts playing.
3) The upconverter has quality issues. It is not very good. Lots of artifacts. Do a little a research and you will see posts on the subject.
So, I have rewired my whole system with direct outputs to my TV. I am not using the receiver for any Video switching. Fortunately, I have a good TV with several HMDI and component inputs. Not enough, but I have a combination HMDI/component switcher and downconverter on order.
So, it appears a little strange that a $1,000 receiver has these issues. But not strange at all for a $500 receiver. Check an online auction site for the Denon 888 receiver. Almost EXACTLY the same unit. To justify the difference, they gave the 2808 a different remote. They sell the 888 through Walmart. The 2808 is sold through A/V dealers. I do not believe that this unit is in anyway comparable to $1,000 units from Onkyo, Yamaha and Sony. Unfortunately, I do not own one of those units so I cannot confirm my opinion.
This is a common path that companies take when they want to maximize their bottom line. It works very well when the company has a good reputation, and can sell stuff on the name alone. JBL went down the same path many years ago. It is commonly referred to in the business as prostituting your name.
So, I am more than a little upset over this. I am REALLY, REALLY mad. More mad at myself for falling for it. I don't blame Denon. Their job is to maximize profits. I have just been so caught up with work and family that I bought this unit without doing any research.
The worse part is that I bought this unit in the US and I live in the Philippines. I would love to move this item on an auction site to get rid of it and buy something better. Difficult to get any reasonable price under the circumstances.