Pinball Hall of Fame: The Williams Collection - Delayed!!

Cool I'm always up for a good game of pinball. I wonder if there are any reviews up anywhere. BTW 1991 wasn't that long ago. I finished college in 91.

I have to remember that I am not as young as I fell most days. I was born in 1968 and will be 40 this summer. I will probably be a gamer as long as I can do it. As far as the intern goes well I would be very suprised if she knew what a good 25 cent pinball game was like.

I'll look for your review.

I was in college in the late 80s. The pinball we played then was Hot Doggin' (ski theme). Now I have a working Williams Sorcerer machine in my house. I looked it up and Sorcerer is one of the games in this collection. Normally video pinball wouldn't apeal to me. But now you got me curious.

Has anyone seen locally in the big box stores yet?

Shipped to me from Gamefly..should get it soon.

Ordered from Amazon and arriving Thursday!

The game is graphically nasty. They used the largest pixel mode available on the Wii, a la NBA Live 08, Raving Rabbits 2, etc. Its lower than No More Heroes.

I'm most certain now that with screenscrolling, the developers have no other alternative in terms of being able to process it. The Wii reminds me of the Commodore 64 where you lose half the resolution in order to scroll.

The pinball game otherwise has the classic Williams machines and one that really looks old with the flippers spread a mile apart.

I'd say apart from the graphics, the game is ok but only if you're a hardcore pinball player. Its hard to see the table at times because of the jags.

Its about a 6, not enough of a 7 or 8 to be a keeper.

I guess I ordered too soon, oh well, it was cheap!

If you're a pinball fan, I can't see why that was too bad of a purchase.

Dream Pinball 3D looks more to my liking and reminds me of Pinball FX on the 360.

I'm sure it could have been done better on the Wii. Like I said, if you like pinball, its not a bad purchase.

I got it, so far a really fun game! I have it hooked up to a regular CRT TV right now so looks fine. Once I get it hooked up to an HD Plasma it will probably show the flaws, but hopefully I can get by that and just enjoy the game.

a tangent of this topic, but if you have a Wii, you should DL two of the greatest pinball games of all time, Alien Crush and Devils Crush for the TG16.

I can remember being like 7 when my old man bought a TG16 just to play these games, he was a pinball freak.

I just got a Wii and was a big pinball player back in the day. I used to play this one at the skating rink calked Joker Poker and it was my favorite. This one mall arcade had it and I would go there all the time just to play it. I even searched online for it to see if you could buy which I wasn't going to but it didn't come up. I was just curious about it though. So does pinball use the wii mote. I have 2 of those an2 of the numchuck things. I may get the pinball cause I loved pinball. I have a 40 inch LCD and i know the wii isn't like X-box or PS3 but I have no kids I bought the Wii for myself and it's alot of fun.. I jusy have only played with it once so far and don't know all about it yet. Rose

IGN gave it an 8/10.

http://wii.ign.com/articles/859/859821p1.html

8.0 Presentation
Ten tables accurately represented, with achievements to shoot for and speedy loadtimes. The front end could use a tweak and remove some of the "dummy machines" instead of teasing what's not there.
8.0 Graphics
Even at 480p these machines look photorealistic. Fast and smooth framerate during gameplay with excellent cameras and a variety of positions.
8.0 Sound
The old-school sounds of the machines are pulled off well. The original "rockin' 80s" soundtrack's a bit corny, but that can be turned off.
8.5 Gameplay
You can't beat the fun and feel of real pinball, but this game comes extremely close.
7.5 Lasting Appeal
It's a casual experience with some great replay value, especially in its multiplayer hotseat mode for high score tournament competitions.
8.0
Impressive OVERALL
(out of 10 / not an average)

Ok I think I am going to order this game. I loved pinball back in the day. When I went to the Arcade I played 3 or 4 games my favorite being Centipede. I loved one called Q-Bert and Pacman and Ms. Pacman of course and even Donkey Kong and Dig Dug. I also had an Atari 2600 which shows my age. I'l check out Amazon cause I may buy another game also. Thanks, Rose

Edit: Ok I ordered the pinball and the game party with darts and skiball and airhockey. I need to quit buying games LOL!! I was going to do free shipping but it said 5-9 days so I did the standard only 5 something more to ship 3-5 days. I know I will love the pinball.

Rose

Well I saw ign gave it a good score, but if I am not misunderstanding, it uses zero mnotion controls and I don't udnerstand why games keep being made for a motion control system and then don't even utilize them. I wouldn't rate any game high for Wii which doesn't use motions and if I''m not mistaken even SSB doesn't use them????

If anything, too many Wii games have motion controls tacked on when it's not appropriate. It should only be done when it adds to a game. The Wii has traditional control schemes readily available, they should be used when it's beneficial to the game, instead of being crippled with motion controls like many Wii titles have .

And for the record, this game has motion controls, you move the controller to nudge the table. I can't imagine why someone would want the motion controls be used to control the flippers.

Sorry Basher, but I have to agree completely with Leo on this one. I don't see how motion control could improve gameplay.

After reading the good reviews here I will be renting this game soon. I remember having a blast playing the pinball game for the NES with my Dad and uncle so I should enjoy this one.

I also agree.

Its clear that several games have attempted to use motion controls and failed. This, coupled with several other deficiencies of the system, have left myself and other Wii gamers a little bitter, as we have a lack of games to chose from in many categories(notice i didnt say a lack of good games period. There are several great games to keep me busy, but that doesnt mean the range of choice is all that varied).

I would much rather a game with solid controls using wavebird or classic controller than some weakly implemented motion control scheme. Nintendo, to their credit, has been great at recognizing this. SSBB offers many options for control, as does the upcoming Kart.

The Wii is not a "Motion Control System" as mentioned, at best it is "motion enhanced". The sooner people realize this, the sooner we can have some great standard controlling games for the Wii.

Whole point of the Wii "is" the motion controls. The games that have it taked on wouldn't have been best without them, they would have been best if the developers knew what they were doing.

With this game I don't really know what motion controls could help it, but a lot of games are lacking them which I ahve no desire to play . Playing any game without motion controls on Wii is just the same as playing a gamecube game and thus can't be considered even close to current gen.

While that may be true, not all game need motion controls. You are the first person I've ever seen complain about the lack of motion of controls in a game. Most everyone else bitches because most games don't give you the option for standard controls.

No, it isn't.

The whole point of the Wii is to play games(and preferably to enjoy the experience). I dont think any developer should be looking at motion control as a necessity, often the best way to make a game enjoyable is to keep tried and true controlling schemes.

A good example is the DS, the point of which is NOT touch controls. The stylus certainly fits certain games, and when implemented well, is a great tool. However, some of the best, most enjoyable games have a standard controller layout (sonic games, newSMB, KartDS, UltimateMK contra4). The fact that they have refined stylus controls to work VERY well is excellent, but the fact still remains that this is not the 'point' of the system.

During the DS' first year and a half - developers forced touchscreen controls, which is the same thing that we are seeing on the Wii. It's not necessary and should only be used if it will enhance the gameplay, not be a detriment.

Which further strengthens the analogy. Exactly.