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post #61 of 624
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Here are some pics of where I am at. I puzzled together the star image and will now star the drilling and poking process. Hopefully by this weekend I will start threading the fibers.
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post #62 of 624
Tradewinds,

Where did you get the star map?



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Here are some pics of where I am at. I puzzled together the star image and will now star the drilling and poking process. Hopefully by this weekend I will start threading the fibers.
post #63 of 624
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Tradewinds,

Where did you get the star map?

http://www.skymaps.com/downloads.html
post #64 of 624
Nice layout tradewinds.
post #65 of 624
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post #66 of 624
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More updates, Finally one panel (the large one at the back is Done! Just need to trim fibers). I am having some issues with the controller card but working with StarDesigner on it:

Pic 1
Pic 2
post #67 of 624
Hi Guys
I,m new to the forum , and wanted to say how impressed with all your work, so much so that I just have to build one off the Star Panel,s!!!!
They just look stunning.

I,ve decided on an 8 x 4 panel , to start with anyway.

I think I want to use the LED Kit offered by Starceiling-Designer , the
DIY Animated Star Ceiling Kit, its says 12 x 6 coverage , but would it be to much for an 8 x 4 panel ?

Have a few other questions.

I want to keep it light, and make it like a tray so that I can include a Blue led rope light , inside the tray , so that when i mount it say an inch off the ceiling I can have a concealed lighting source as well as the fibers

Question is what would be strong and yet light enough ?
I was thinking 1 x 2,s for a frame , and the Styrafoam 8 x 4 sheet covered in black cloth .

How much depth would i need to leave to allow the led fiber units and control pcb to be mounted on the foam ?

Any suggestions greatly accepted :-)
post #68 of 624
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Originally Posted by satellitecentral View Post

Hi Guys
I,m new to the forum , and wanted to say how impressed with all your work, so much so that I just have to build one off the Star Panel,s!!!!
They just look stunning.

I,ve decided on an 8 x 4 panel , to start with anyway.

I think I want to use the LED Kit offered by Starceiling-Designer , the
DIY Animated Star Ceiling Kit, its says 12 x 6 coverage , but would it be to much for an 8 x 4 panel ?

Have a few other questions.

I want to keep it light, and make it like a tray so that I can include a Blue led rope light , inside the tray , so that when i mount it say an inch off the ceiling I can have a concealed lighting source as well as the fibers

Question is what would be strong and yet light enough ?
I was thinking 1 x 2,s for a frame , and the Styrafoam 8 x 4 sheet covered in black cloth .

How much depth would i need to leave to allow the led fiber units and control pcb to be mounted on the foam ?

Any suggestions greatly accepted :-)

Hi,
The kit is good to use for your ceiling, and dont worry you can have never to much stars.

About the light weight build, the way you want to go , is perfect for that.
You will need about 2 inch depth to install the light units and the controller.

StarDesigner
post #69 of 624
Hi,

I just want to let all know that from the 16-26 i will be on holiydays.
And all orders, what will be placed in that time will be produced in the 2nd week of 2008.

And here are some previews of what will come out in 2008.

USB Dongle
for updating firmaware

FX Supernova
is a Comet Module for colorfull Comet and Shooting star animations.
Twinkle Twinkle is a stand alone module for simple star ceilings without the need of a controller. It will be the most sold kit of 2008

And some more top secrect stuff is in development. I just say laser........

Best
StarDesigner
post #70 of 624
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Originally Posted by StarDesigner View Post

Hi,

I just want to let all know that from the 16-26 i will be on holiydays.
And all orders, what will be placed in that time will be produced in the 2nd week of 2008.

And here are some previews of what will come out in 2008.

USB Dongle
for updating firmaware

FX Supernova
is a Comet Module for colorfull Comet and Shooting star animations.
Twinkle Twinkle is a stand alone module for simple star ceilings without the need of a controller. It will be the most sold kit of 2008

And some more top secrect stuff is in development. I just say laser........

Best
StarDesigner

Awesome!
post #71 of 624
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Originally Posted by tradewinds View Post

More updates, Finally one panel (the large one at the back is Done! Just need to trim fibers). I am having some issues with the controller card but working with StarDesigner on it:

Pic 1
Pic 2

Just wanted to update all that StarDesigner has been very responsive in helping me figure out what I was doing wrong. I use a JP1 remote and I had the Vol+ and Vol- and Mute button set to VPT (Volume Punch Through), therefore the remote was not sending any signals to the card when I used those 3 buttons. There was nothing wrong with the card.

A few months ago I would never thought it was possible to get a star ceiling in my HT room without spending thousands for the size I wanted. Thank you StarDesigner for making this possible.

Really looking forward to the new stuff. Hopefully I'll be motivated to take down my panels (Heavy!!!!) and add some of the new stuff (laser, comet, my mouth is watering already)
post #72 of 624
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Originally Posted by StarDesigner View Post

you can have never to much stars.

Tell me about it, for my 12x8 star ceiling, I figure I will have around 500 stars since I cut off some long hanging fibers and re-used them:

EG48PACK - 48 fibers x 8 illuminators = 384
plus 20 re-used x 7 illuminators = 140
Total = 524
post #73 of 624
Good stuff Stardesigner,

I know I'll be needing the dongle already, looking foward to what else you have in the works.

satellitecentral,

Your on the right track, I think your better off with 2x3's like I used. The SCD units fit perfectly within the frame when placed on top of the panel that I'm using. That of course would be necessary if the panel ends up flush against the frame, I'm expecting to have about a half inch gap.

If you do a light tray you can take a similar approach to what I'm doing by attaching 1X4's to the sides (the width is actually about 3.5"). Using the 2X3's give you something better to bite into then the 1x2's. You can then do an L piece attached to the 1X4's form underneath. The difficulty is, you need to secure it properly from underneath and the sides. So you'll have screws showing, ok if your going to paint or wrap in cloth, but tougher if you wanted to stain.

Your other option would be to use 1X5's on the sides and then attach crown like I'm doing and this would allow for a nice gap from the ceiling for light tray. Simply attach crown with a finish nailer fill holes and finish any way you like.
post #74 of 624
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Originally Posted by tradewinds View Post

Tell me about it, for my 12x8 star ceiling, I figure I will have around 500 stars since I cut off some long hanging fibers and re-used them:

EG48PACK - 48 fibers x 8 illuminators = 384
plus 20 re-used x 7 illuminators = 140
Total = 524

Definately what I'll be trying to do with my cut strands.
post #75 of 624
Oh and here is some for the good starDesigner in all of you out there,
www.stellarium.org is a great freeware for viewing stars in our gallaxy.

Best regards
StarDesigner
post #76 of 624
for those who have already done it, or are in the process of doing it, i notice it looks like a drop down...so how feasible would this set up be for those of us in rentals where cutting out sections of ceiling aren't exactly smiled upon by landlords.

for the cost of this project, it seems like something that would fun to do, specially if i could figure out a way to minimize celing damage and find the star chart for the day i was born
post #77 of 624
No big deal, i have a new fastener system what i use to mount the MDF panel.

So the only thing is you will need to put up some framing like 2x2 thats all what you need on space.

Best regards
StarDesigner
post #78 of 624
Hi Again Guys

So I,ve now started my Star Tile Project :-)

So far I have ordered the Animated Fiber Kit from Starceiling-Designer.com and decided while i,m waiting to get on with the rest off it.

Went to Lowe's and got some 8 foot sections off 1x3 Poplar and some basic molding to form the bottom off the tray.
I also picked up a sheet off 8x4 half inch Styrofoam insulation , seems pretty rigid, and most off all light and a 24 foot Blue rope light , to install in the tray when the fibers are done
I had already been to Wal-Mart and picked up some Spray Adhesive .
I couldn't find a decent sized piece off fabric , so had a brain wave , a black queen size bed sheet.

Plan is to start cutting and assembling the frame tomorrow, and seeing if I cam get the bed sheet wrapped around the sheet off insulation board, just to see if it woill work , I may need to order someething different.

What is the new way you have of haning the panel from the ceiling ?
post #79 of 624
By the way,
Which Sony codes do you need to control the card?
post #80 of 624
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By the way,
Which Sony codes do you need to control the card?

For JP1, the master list of Sony codes are here:
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dl...e&file_id=4768

Use the ones at the top of the list since they are the most common and works with the controller card.
post #81 of 624
http://www.rotofast.com/howWorks.htm

This is one of the new mounting we will use for the fiberglass tiles

http://www.monarchmetal.com/pages/panelclip.html

And this is the new mounting system for MDF use, so you will see no srews when mounted.

Best regards
Star Designer
post #82 of 624
Well, we have just finished painting our (former living room) Home Theater room...gray walls, black ceiling and front wall (for screen). Not being pleased with the flat black ceiling (looks 'blah'), I've been looking for something to spice it up...

...and THIS IS IT! Awesome work....and I've got 10' ceiling height, so no problem w/ giving up a few inches


A couple of questions:

1) My intent is to add some fiberglas absorbers on the ceiling anyway. I assume that this will work well on OC703 covered w/ black burlap?

2) I have power to the ceiling already, and could run Cat5 cable in the conduit along w/ the HDMI for the projector. Is there any problem with a long (50ft) run for the controller?

Hmmm...seems like all I can think of for the moment. Thanks for any and all input.
post #83 of 624
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Originally Posted by MTBDOC View Post

Well, we have just finished painting our (former living room) Home Theater room...gray walls, black ceiling and front wall (for screen). Not being pleased with the flat black ceiling (looks 'blah'), I've been looking for something to spice it up...

...and THIS IS IT! Awesome work....and I've got 10' ceiling height, so no problem w/ giving up a few inches


A couple of questions:

1) My intent is to add some fiberglas absorbers on the ceiling anyway. I assume that this will work well on OC703 covered w/ black burlap?

2) I have power to the ceiling already, and could run Cat5 cable in the conduit along w/ the HDMI for the projector. Is there any problem with a long (50ft) run for the controller?

Hmmm...seems like all I can think of for the moment. Thanks for any and all input.

Hi,
about the 1. i dont know, since i never worked with that material.
I use MDF with velvet for the last job, and it turned out to be the best
to cover with, due to light absorbent velvet. And its realy black black black black. The only bad thing is, that you have to burn holes in the velvet , what is a litle more work, but make your live a lot easyer when you put the fibers thrugh, so you dont have to strugle. But not all velvets work.

About 2. no/yes, 50 feet cable run, is may to much, since you will need to close the loop on the new controllers. So for that i recomend storing the controller in the ceiling with the light units. The max is 20 feet from the controller to 1st light unit. But you can try, it depends on how many light units you plan to use.And if you want to use shooting stars, or sparcle light units, wich then need its own cable run to the controller.

Do you want to use tiles for drop in ceiling and if in what size.
It is always better to have big tiles than small ones.

Best regards
StarDesigner
post #84 of 624
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Originally Posted by MTBDOC View Post


1) My intent is to add some fiberglas absorbers on the ceiling anyway. I assume that this will work well on OC703 covered w/ black burlap?

I have used JM814 (same as OC703) for my front panel (i have two, 1 front, 1 rear. The front is all that is needed for the first reflection point so it is made of fiberglass in a wood frame. The rear is masonite with wood frame but any material will do, MDF, ply etc depending on the size). Black burlap will work, but I do not like the smell of burlap so I used Dazian black Celtic.

You need to use an Acoustically Transparent (AT) material if you are going to use fiberglass absorbers.
post #85 of 624
My goal is to hit the first reflection point w/ OC703 as well. Would the GOM black material be good for a starfield? I'm looking at an area roughly 8'x10', directly overhead and in front of the projector.

Speaking of projectors: how close to the screen wall can a star ceiling be without causing a problem w/ glare on the screen? Again, as I have a 10' ceiling, the top of the screen will be over 3' below the ceiling, so I am thinking that this shouldn't be a problem.

As far as location of the controller, I have already mounted a projector on the ceiling, as well as a shelf/holder for a UPS for the projector. Adding one more in line with these shouldn't be an issue!
post #86 of 624
Small update, my progress with my starpanel has been slow.

I managed to outline a few of the constellations that I was aiming to have as part of my design about a week ago. Then last night I got around to wrapping the panel with the cloth that I purchased. I'm letting it sit a night to hopefully have it adhere well. I need to flip it over and adhere the side flaps of the fabric over the top so that it will hopefully maintain it's tension.

I picked up a package of big needles from Wal-Mart. They range in thickness, starting with the third one in the package I was able to thread one of my fiber optic strands. I tested pulling it through a piece of scrap panel, it worked well. The strand being a little stiff and looped in the needles eye pulls through the panel a little more than the needle so I will still need to glue but I was expecting to do that anyways.

Seperately I pulled the needle through a piece of scrap fabric. The fabric is more stretchy than I expected which could be a good or bad thing. When I pulled the needle through the fabric snapped right back and I could barely make out where I pulled the needle through. My concern is with the fabric attached to the panel and trying to pull the fibers through, the fabric might stretch away from the panel.

That's where it stands now. I took a pic of the wrapped panel, I'll try and post it some time soon.
post #87 of 624
I drilled holes in my reinforced hardboard (make sure you flip the panel after drilling so the entry drill holes are down, otherwise you will see where the drill pushed through), then wrapped the panels with fabric. I used an awe, pushed it through holding the fabric between my fingers (do it slowly and you will feel it) and then fed my fibers through. I did all of the fibers on the panel then taped and glued them to hold them in place until the glue set.

It took me an afternoon to do 3 8X4 foot panels 96 stars per panel. Tedious but it was a warm day outside and listening to Pink Floyd helped
post #88 of 624
OK Guys ,
I got my frame built 4x8 out off 1x3,s , now what is the best material to cover my panel ?
Velvet ?, and where do you get it, I looked all over locally , not a bit to be found .
post #89 of 624
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Originally Posted by satellitecentral View Post

OK Guys ,
I got my frame built 4x8 out off 1x3,s , now what is the best material to cover my panel ?
Velvet ?, and where do you get it, I looked all over locally , not a bit to be found .

Hi,
About the velvet, i will stock the velvet as soon i am back from on the 26.th.

The price is still not shure , but it will be a round 10-13 $ a yard.
Its 55 inch wide.
Its a special upholstery velvet, and its easy to work with.
And it dark black.

In the foto with the 3 panels, you see 2 valvet custom made and 1 cinetile
Its a big diffrence, the black is on both tiles good under dimed light but as soon you want a realy light absorbent material

Oh , and yes thats a comet in progressin the other picture,
Its made with the new FX module coming out soon. Full RGB for a lot of FX.
A Video will be posted soon to on my home page.
And a link to here.

Best regards
StarDesigner
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post #90 of 624
Hi StarDesigner,
If we order the DIY kit tom when will it be shipped?
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