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post #31 of 1647
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bstronger beat me to your answer, see the arrows that i made on the pic to the "room for 7.1" well right above the 2nd arrow to the left theres a white bar that says 4-8 ohms.
post #32 of 1647
I really appreciate any feedback you can give after you get it all connected...looking forward to it!
post #33 of 1647
More information, if this helps (lengthy downloads, so broadband only recommended: cable or DSL).

http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/co...A-ENG-0821.pdf
http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/co...4/EN/main.html
post #34 of 1647
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Originally Posted by bstronger View Post

I bot this Samsung tonight from BB and speaker connections are labeled "4-8 ohms". More tomorrow when I connect.

OK, so now I am ready to apply copper to copper - but where?
My inputs are Tosh A20 and SciAtl 8300hd both now hdmi to my recently installed Pioneer 6010. So should I just have these both go hdmi to the AS720 and then hdmi out to the Pio 6010? That does mean a trip to Walmart for another hdmi cable - but anything for the best sound this baby can produce. Thanks for any suggestions - just moving stuff around for now.
post #35 of 1647
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Originally Posted by bstronger View Post

OK, so now I am ready to apply copper to copper - but where?
My inputs are Tosh A20 and SciAtl 8300hd both now hdmi to my recently installed Pioneer 6010. So should I just have these both go hdmi to the AS720 and then hdmi out to the Pio 6010? That does mean a trip to Walmart for another hdmi cable - but anything for the best sound this baby can produce. Thanks for any suggestions - just moving stuff around for now.

Your immiediate problem is you have to get sound to the AVR. HDMI direct to the TV is not a problem initially, but without the HDMI connection to the AVR, you will need a different audio solution (either coaxial or optical) if you want 5.1 sound (coxial and optical don't carry 7.1, but you probably don't have the extra speakers right now anyway). As far as cables go, monoprice.com is one of the best places to get them at a good price. You'll need to scroll down the page for the $5 cables (of lesser quality, obviously). I don't know what Wal-Mart is selling. http://www.monoprice.com/products/su...02&cp_id=10240

If you have two HDMI cables at home right now, and want to see how the unit works, you could disconnect your SA 8300HD for now and use only the Tosh A20 connected to the AVR (or vice versa) so you can play around a bit with your new toy! Otherwise you could connect using just regular audio until you get those new cables (almost everybody has some cheap audio cables lying around somewhere).

You might also consider just using optical and coaxial connections until you get two extra surround speakers (you only need 5.1 until you do) since good quality cables for these are a lot cheaper than HDMI. http://www.monoprice.com/products/su...02&cp_id=10229. There will be no difference in sound quality between 5.1 through HDMI and 5.1 through optical or coaxial (all three are digital connections), so without the two extra speakers, the HDMI audio capability is of limited use initially.
post #36 of 1647
What exactly does the pass through do as far as DTSMA and DTHD? I'm assuming that the reciever will not decode these formats and that it will just pass the signal directly from the player to the speakers.
post #37 of 1647
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You might also consider just using optical and coaxial connections until you get two extra surround speakers (you only need 5.1 until you do) since good quality cables for these are a lot cheaper than HDMI. [url].

Thanks Kex, This is just what I did and it works fine. The sound is great - more really than I need for my kind of listening but happy to have the extra to impress my guests. Now with 4 remotes I guess my next step is some kind of universal remote - something I have skipped until now to avoid the up front programming tedium. I'll go to to that forum for advice.
Thanks again.
post #38 of 1647
Does anyone know if this system can do LPCM 5.1 AND 7.1 incase i connected it to ps3 and played a bl-ray movie with PCM 5.1 track what will happen.
What about the Lossless tracks DTS-MA AND DD -Ture HD how does this system output these tracks.
post #39 of 1647
For my own clarification....am I to understand that since this thing is putting out 100 watts per speaker at 4 ohms, if I hook up 8ohm speakers it will only be sending 50 watts?
post #40 of 1647
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Originally Posted by krispykeith View Post

For my own clarification....am I to understand that since this thing is putting out 100 watts per speaker at 4 ohms, if I hook up 8ohm speakers it will only be sending 50 watts?

I don't know enough about this to give you a precise answer but, AFIK, that is the case. It may not be quite as simple as that, so if you want to know more, so you might want to lurk on the speakers forum or try wikipedia even ...
post #41 of 1647
I found this article:

When matching amplifiers to loudspeakers, the output impedance of the amplifier should match that of the loudspeakers as accurately as possible, to ensure that the amplifier is able to deliver its maximum rated power. If the speaker impedance is lower than that of the amplifier's output impedance, the amplifier will be forced to work too hard, which will cause overheating and possibly failure. If the amplifier has an overload protection circuit built-in, this may operate and shut down the amplifier, either partially or completely.

If, on the other hand, the speaker impedance is significantly higher than the amplifier's output impedance, the amplifier will be unable to deliver its full power rating, but should in all other respects work normally. Taking an example, if an amplifier with an output impedance of 4(omega) is connected to an 8(omega) loudspeaker, the maximum power available will be half the rated power of the amplifier. Never run valve amplifiers without a speaker connected, as damage may result. This does not apply when using solid state amps, however.


http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/1994...45286fdd2be627

(See the section titled "SUMMARY OF THE RULES").
post #42 of 1647
Interesting, thanks for the info! Since this is mated to 4ohm speakers packaged in I am guessing 4ohms are the natural output for this receiver and the output will in fact be half for 8ohm speakers.

Bummer, this might be the drawback I was hoping to avoid. That is awfully low in power.
post #43 of 1647
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Originally Posted by bstronger View Post

Now with 4 remotes I guess my next step is some kind of universal remote - something I have skipped until now to avoid the up front programming tedium. I'll go to to that forum for advice.
.

From the remote forum I decided to order the Harmony 720 for my Samsung as720 AVR and other components. If anyone thinks that is not a good choice for this AVR please say so. I just want a 'one button' switch from dvd to stb to pc audio when I switch the source. Thanks
post #44 of 1647
What about the DTS-MA AND DDTHD what do they mean by pass through will i be able to hear these lossless tracks on the sammy.
post #45 of 1647
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Originally Posted by bstronger View Post

From the remote forum I decided to order the Harmony 720 for my Samsung as720 AVR and other components. If anyone thinks that is not a good choice for this AVR please say so. I just want a 'one button' switch from dvd to stb to pc audio when I switch the source. Thanks

This is an excellent first universal remote IMO, especially if you can get the Costco price at $120 (a lot of stores have no stock right now). Since the Samsung is so new, you just might have to call tech support to get it added, but maybe not. In any case, I have no doubt whatsoever that you will be able to get it to function, not just 99%, but 100% with the Samsung.
post #46 of 1647
can you change out the fronts and exchange them for big old-school bookshelf speakers? Even though i no longer by brand new stereo systems? i usually buy vintage but that looks interesting..
post #47 of 1647
Does this device have DTS-MA and True-HD?
post #48 of 1647
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Originally Posted by neoman22 View Post

What about the DTS-MA AND DDTHD what do they mean by pass through will i be able to hear these lossless tracks on the sammy.


you must have a bluray (like the samsung bdp1400 or pioneer or sony S1/s2000/S500) or hd dud player (i hate them) that does DD TrueHD or DTS HD decoding. if your player has the decoding, the samsung will play it, by passing it through. it just doesnt decode it itself.
post #49 of 1647
That is a nice looking receiver. Much better looking than my Pioneer Elite (though I won't be trading for it, ha)
post #50 of 1647
This receiver doesn't have any component inputs? are the phasing them out?
post #51 of 1647
Will this receiver output full 1080p from my Toshiba HD-A20 HD-DVD player through HDMI?. Also, if I use just HDMI for my Comcast DVR will I get both video and audio because I am having a problem right now with this on my Sony HT-DDW995 system (can't get the video to work)?
post #52 of 1647
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Originally Posted by jp_tech View Post

Will this receiver output full 1080p from my Toshiba HD-A20 HD-DVD player through HDMI?. Also, if I use just HDMI for my Comcast DVR will I get both video and audio because I am having a problem right now with this on my Sony HT-DDW995 system (can't get the video to work)?

I just switched my As720 over from toslink in to hdmi in [and out] for both Tosh a20 and Cablevision SciAtl 8300hd. I am getting video passed thru at 1080p [this all to a Pio 6010] and audio fine with avr. Other than too many remotes my only dismay is my PC audio is into the avr toslink and apparantly no way to rename from dvd or sat.
But you know, after listening to Barber of Seville from cable for a few minutes - nothing else matters.
post #53 of 1647
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Originally Posted by bstronger View Post

I just switched my As720 over from toslink in to hdmi in [and out] for both Tosh a20 and Cablevision SciAtl 8300hd. I am getting video passed thru at 1080p [this all to a Pio 6010] and audio fine with avr. Other than too many remotes my only dismay is my PC audio is into the avr toslink and apparantly no way to rename from dvd or sat.
But you know, after listening to Barber of Seville from cable for a few minutes - nothing else matters.

Thanks for the response! That is good to hear, just wish I knew about this system before purchasing the Sony. The Sony is a good system though, as long as I can figure out how to get the DVR video to work.
post #54 of 1647
What about the 720p and 1080i resloution does the sammy do 720p and 1080i incase the tv doesn't support 1080p.
post #55 of 1647
so just to clarify this...

the system CAN take HDMI 5.1 dolby digital from say a PS3 and decode the audio from the HDMI and then also pass the video/audio along to the TV out through the HDMI output port?

it doesn't require a optical audio-in because it is not a pass-thru HDMI right?
post #56 of 1647
So this is the best HTIB for blu-ray/HD-DVD (PS3) did anyone buy this system for more reivews.
post #57 of 1647
Thread Starter 
im gettin it friday ill let you know. =) if it sucks theres always the SS2000
post #58 of 1647
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Originally Posted by redlikefire02 View Post

im gettin it friday ill let you know. =) if it sucks theres always the SS2000


Looking forward to your review!
post #59 of 1647
Googling the HTIB, I found it at www.jr.com for $499 pre-ordered...then add on 46.72 for shipping...

http://www.jr.com/JRProductPage.proc...urce=nsa&nsa=1
post #60 of 1647
So does this HTIB rock the house or fill a nice size living room at 650 watts (5.1) and 850 (7.1) watts . The HT-SR800 has 1000 watt power with 7.1 sound and every reviewer seems to say that its sound is just booming.

These have to be the top choices for people with PS3s, 360s, HDDVD players and want the best available sound at the $400-$500 price range. Do you guys feel that 650 watts is enough for your living rooms .

Will the sub woofer give you that theatre rumble at 150 watts vs HT-SR800's sub at 230?
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