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post #13291 of 14741
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Originally Posted by BlueTiger View Post

Epix sounds like it's designed to be a premium movie channel just like HBO, Cinemax, Starz, and Showtime. At the same time, Epix could be like Encore: the type of programming that cable and satellite providers don't necessarily package as a premium but is on upper-tier basic. So with DirecTV, Epix might be feasible in HD Extra Pack if HD Extra Pack went from $5 to $8 a month. Take something like Hallmark Movie Channel out of there and make that a regular choice-type channel (like Hallmark Channel) and those HD Extra Pack channels would be mostly movie channels anyway. (There is Sony Movie Channel, MGM, HDNet Movies, and the completely useless Shorts HD.)
There is no way I would accept a $3 increase in the extra pack for Epix, even if some of the stuff they show is decent. As much as I love HDNet Movies, I'd drop that package in a heartbeat since I can get almost everything they show on Blu Ray through Netflix (if I don't already own it, that is).

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How come Epix isn't being made available from more and more subscibers in addition to Dish Network?
It sounds like the price being demanded is the biggest issue. It's like Epix and the NFL Network are working from the same playbook.
post #13292 of 14741
You can just keep cancelling then reupping the hd extra pack for free every 3 months from that offer that directv does.

There is a loophole in the directv sysyem.
post #13293 of 14741
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Originally Posted by dcowboy7 View Post

You can just keep cancelling then reupping the hd extra pack for free every 3 months from that offer that directv does.
There is a loophole in the directv sysyem.
Honestly, there's no good reason we should even have the charge at all for those few channels. The $10 HD access charge is bogus, too. At this point, they should charge $10 for the HD customers who still want the SD channels, since (as far as I know) those are still using MPEG2.

It's ridiculous we can't buy an HD only programming package.
post #13294 of 14741
Well you can get out of the $10 HD by doing "autopay".

Its not really even autopay since its just another charge on the credit card & gets paid when you pay the card just like anything else on it.
post #13295 of 14741
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Originally Posted by dcowboy7 View Post

Well you can get out of the $10 HD by doing "autopay".
Its not really even autopay since its just another charge on the credit card & gets paid when you pay the card just like anything else on it.
There is no way I will ever let them automatically charge me. I've had too many bad experiences with erronious charges from companies (including D*) to trust any monthly service with a fee that can change each month due to optional services (in this case, PPV or add-ons).

They get their money only when I've verified my bill is correct.
post #13296 of 14741
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Originally Posted by kabin View Post

Viacom was feeling the heat from advertisers. Everything being equal, a 3% increase per year seems about right.
Yup, I'd say that was a large part of, the advertisers were asking for more airtime sans charges to make up for the shortfall.
post #13297 of 14741
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Originally Posted by NetworkTV View Post

...since (as far as I know) those are still using MPEG2...
You shooting from the hip, again!
post #13298 of 14741
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Originally Posted by dcowboy7 View Post

Well you can get out of the $10 HD by doing "autopay".
Its not really even autopay since its just another charge on the credit card & gets paid when you pay the card just like anything else on it.

Not really. Guess it depends on which CSR you get and what kind of mood they are in at the moment. Last month Directv added the $10 HD access fee back on to my account (as well as other fees that essentially raised my monthly fee by $26). When I called I got the "certain promotions expire, blah, blah, blah. 14 years with Direcv. Auto pay. I don't call every week asking for something for free. Had the protection plan as well. Paid for all my receivers full price when we had to buy them (before this lease malarky). CSR wouldn't budge on any of these new fees and said I was free to look around and find something else. I did.

Have Comcast Xfinity now and don't miss Directv at all. Pretty much the same PQ wise, more HD channels, and monthly (with tax) is $63. Half what Directv started charging me.

Consistency across the board is something Directv doesn't know the meaning of. And charging $10 for HD access to long-time customers, but not new customers, is pretty smarmy at the minimum.
post #13299 of 14741
I am very happy the Viacom Channels are back...

I also appreciate the free Encore until the end of the month and...

The free 3 months of HBO, due to my complaining.

cool.gif
post #13300 of 14741
I wish more MSOs would pick up Epix. Having first run rights for Paramount (Viacom owned) movies IMO is huge and is a huge loss for the MSOs that don't carry Epix and it was a huge loss for Showtime when Viacom and CBS split a few years ago. I wouldn’t mind paying a few bucks extra a month for the suite of Epix channels. I’m hoping eventually Epix makes it’s way to DirecTV.
post #13301 of 14741
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Originally Posted by badboi View Post

Not really. Guess it depends on which CSR you get and what kind of mood they are in at the moment. Last month Directv added the $10 HD access fee back on to my account (as well as other fees that essentially raised my monthly fee by $26). When I called I got the "certain promotions expire, blah, blah, blah. 14 years with Direcv. Auto pay. I don't call every week asking for something for free. Had the protection plan as well. Paid for all my receivers full price when we had to buy them (before this lease malarky). CSR wouldn't budge on any of these new fees and said I was free to look around and find something else. I did.
Have Comcast Xfinity now and don't miss Directv at all. Pretty much the same PQ wise, more HD channels, and monthly (with tax) is $63. Half what Directv started charging me.
Consistency across the board is something Directv doesn't know the meaning of. And charging $10 for HD access to long-time customers, but not new customers, is pretty smarmy at the minimum.

Its just like getting sunday ticket deals....dont like the deal the csr gives then just call back again....big woop.

+ always stick to the rules....call early in the week, early in the day, go thru retentions blah blah blah.
post #13302 of 14741
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Originally Posted by dcowboy7 View Post

Its just like getting sunday ticket deals....dont like the deal the csr gives then just call back again....big woop.
+ always stick to the rules....call early in the week, early in the day, go thru retentions blah blah blah.

Dislike playing the CSR roulette and bartering like I live in a third world country, and quite frankly, customers shouldn't have to. Consistency across the board should be the norm.

Locked into a 2 year price guarantee with Comcast that beats Direct. More HD channels. On Demand. I'm happy. It's only tv. Any critical viewing is done on my Oppo BD player.

Now, if I were into sports, then there's really no other choice. But I'm not.
post #13303 of 14741
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Originally Posted by badboi View Post

Not really. Guess it depends on which CSR you get and what kind of mood they are in at the moment. Last month Directv added the $10 HD access fee back on to my account (as well as other fees that essentially raised my monthly fee by $26). When I called I got the "certain promotions expire, blah, blah, blah. 14 years with Direcv. Auto pay. I don't call every week asking for something for free. Had the protection plan as well. Paid for all my receivers full price when we had to buy them (before this lease malarky). CSR wouldn't budge on any of these new fees and said I was free to look around and find something else. I did.
Have Comcast Xfinity now and don't miss Directv at all. Pretty much the same PQ wise, more HD channels, and monthly (with tax) is $63. Half what Directv started charging me.
Consistency across the board is something Directv doesn't know the meaning of. And charging $10 for HD access to long-time customers, but not new customers, is pretty smarmy at the minimum.

Which package and how many DVRs?

Any premiums?
post #13304 of 14741
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Originally Posted by NetworkTV View Post

It sounds like the price being demanded is the biggest issue. It's like Epix and the NFL Network are working from the same playbook.

First sentence about Viacom trying to sell Epix too high -- perhaps; but you can say that about a lot of programmers. Yet they get the carriage agreements anyway from DirecTV, Dish Network, Comcast, Time Warner Cable, and most everyone else. I think this has to do with Epix just not taking off.

I should go to a store that sells Dish Network and tune in the channel -- if they allow access -- so that I can see it for myself. I am thinking, from a business standpoint, Viacom doesn't know what it is doing. They screwed up with their dispute with DirecTV: they wasted time; they spent millions on anti-DirecTV advertising; yet they were going to the price increase anyway and, yet, were willing to lose viewership for over a week without getting DirecTV to take Epix. Both can claim victory; but Viacom didn't get DirecTV to bend on the programming. Had Viacom succeeded, Epix1, Epix2, Epix3, Epix Drive-In, MTV Jams, MTV Hits, MTVU, VH1 Soul, CMT Pure Country, BET Hip-Hop, BET Gospel, and the HDs for the first three Epix screens plus TV Land, Nick Jr., and MTV2 would be getting added by DirecTV.

As for the "playbook": NFL Network sells. That's the difference -- so far!
post #13305 of 14741
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Originally Posted by Steve Mehs View Post

and it was a huge loss for Showtime when Viacom and CBS split a few years ago...
Amazing the effect of adding some competition to the mix!
post #13306 of 14741
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Originally Posted by MichaelLAX View Post

You shooting from the hip, again!
So, you're saying the SD channels are no longer using MPEG2 or are you just being a jerk?
post #13307 of 14741
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Originally Posted by BlueTiger View Post

As for the "playbook": NFL Network sells. That's the difference -- so far!
Not so fast.

You're forgetting that not only did the NFL Network have a hard time getting on many of the carriers it's now on, it's still not on several.

The NFL Network is the complete opposite of the MLB Network, which is a case study in how to create a network that is actually desirable.
post #13308 of 14741
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Originally Posted by NetworkTV View Post

Not so fast.
You're forgetting that not only did the NFL Network have a hard time getting on many of the carriers it's now on, it's still not on several.
The NFL Network is the complete opposite of the MLB Network, which is a case study in how to create a network that is actually desirable.

Out of all 3 major sports channels I rate them like this:

1. NBATV
2. NFL Network
3. MLB Network
post #13309 of 14741
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Originally Posted by wco81 View Post

Which package and how many DVRs?
Any premiums?

With Directv, one HD DVR with the Plus HD DVR package (which was suddenly replaced with a new package that required a $6 fee and added a $10 HD DVR fee which both were previously included in package price). Also had HD extra pack and protection plan. No other premiums.

With Comcast I have Digital Preferred with Showtime. One HD DVR. No other premiums.
Edited by badboi - 7/21/12 at 5:49am
post #13310 of 14741
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Originally Posted by Filipinoyakuza View Post

Out of all 3 major sports channels I rate them like this:
1. NBATV
2. NFL Network
3. MLB Network
That looks like you rated them by your preference in sport to me. I'd flip NFL and NBA ..

However, from a "watchability" standpoint, I agree with a previous poster that baseball has it right. I can't stand baseball, but the depth of good coverage is impressive. NFL and NBA channels are not very good. It's all "superstar" discussion, instead of discussing the games and the strategies. Even when they finally switch to covering the sport, it is in very very short spurts.

My biggest example of this problem is from ESPN though. Notice that at half time they have ~25 minutes of air time to fill. 8 to 10 minutes of that will be commercials. That leaves at least 15 minutes. Of that 15 minutes, the games get exactly 2 (the fastest two minutes on TV according to them). Then we get 13ish minutes of crapolla discussion about nothing in particular. I've given up on pre/post game coverage. The NFL network is worse than NBC at that part ... which I didn't think was possible.

The NFL channel is basically built on the principles of the ESPN half time show. The NBA channel is even worse than the NFL channel when it comes to this problem.
post #13311 of 14741
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Originally Posted by NetworkTV View Post

...At this point, they [DirecTV] should charge $10 for the HD customers who still want the SD channels, since (as far as I know) those are still using MPEG2...
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Originally Posted by MichaelLAX View Post

You shooting from the hip, again!
So, you're saying the SD channels are no longer using MPEG2 or are you just being a jerk?


Yes: DirecTV stopped using MPEG-2 in favor of the more highly compressed MPEG-4 some time ago.

Also: there is no longer a mechanical spinning wheel in our color TV's and you can stop scratching a germanium crystal with a 'cat's whisker' when you want to tune in an AM radio station!
Edited by MichaelLAX - 7/21/12 at 8:16am
post #13312 of 14741
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Originally Posted by MichaelLAX View Post

Yes: DirecTV stopped using MPEG-2 in favor of the more highly compressed MPEG-4 some time ago.
Also: there is no longer a mechanical spinning wheel in our color TV's and you can stop scratching a germanium crystal with a 'cat's whisker' when you want to tune in an AM radio station!

Damn you kids!smile.gif
post #13313 of 14741
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Originally Posted by MichaelLAX 
Also: there is no longer a mechanical spinning wheel in our color TV's

Unless you have a DLP! biggrin.gif

Mr Zoid
post #13314 of 14741
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Originally Posted by MichaelLAX View Post

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Originally Posted by NetworkTV View Post

...At this point, they [DirecTV] should charge $10 for the HD customers who still want the SD channels, since (as far as I know) those are still using MPEG2...
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Originally Posted by MichaelLAX View Post

You shooting from the hip, again!
So, you're saying the SD channels are no longer using MPEG2 or are you just being a jerk?


Yes: DirecTV stopped using MPEG-2 in favor of the more highly compressed MPEG-4 some time ago.

Also: there is no longer a mechanical spinning wheel in our color TV's and you can stop scratching a germanium crystal with a 'cat's whisker' when you want to tune in an AM radio station!

There is if you're using a DLP projector in your home theater!
post #13315 of 14741
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Originally Posted by MichaelLAX View Post

Yes: DirecTV stopped using MPEG-2 in favor of the more highly compressed MPEG-4 some time ago.
Well, it couldn't have been too long ago, since up til recently I was still using my old MPEG2-only equipment on an SD TV I had. This was just last year and I only stopped using the equipment when the box died, not because I couldn't view programming on it.

Perhaps you have a specific date when they officially stopped all MPEG2 for the SD channels?
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Also: there is no longer a mechanical spinning wheel in our color TV's and you can stop scratching a germanium crystal with a 'cat's whisker' when you want to tune in an AM radio station!
So, you are being a jerk.

Good to know.
post #13316 of 14741
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Originally Posted by badboi View Post

With Directv, one HD DVR with the Plus HD DVR package (which was suddenly replaced with a new package that required a $6 fee and added a $10 HD DVR fee which both were previously included in package price). Also had HD extra pack and protection plan. No other premiums.
With Comcast I have Digital Preferred with Showtime. One HD DVR. No other premiums.

Did you sign up for their cable modem service too?
post #13317 of 14741
How can someone not like any sports i just dont get that ?

Thats whats great about living here in the NY market sports is huge !!

I couldnt take being in a place where sports is just an afterthought.
post #13318 of 14741
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Originally Posted by dcowboy7 View Post

How can someone not like any sports i just dont get that ?

Thats whats great about living here in the NY market sports is huge !!

I couldnt take being in a place where sports is just an afterthought.

Then you would not like living where I live. Sports is important, but not the "thing" as it seems to be in the NYC market. People are all different. I never watch ESPN. I like sports, but I don't rise and set with it like some do and that is OK. That is why we pay for 500 channels, even the ones we don't watch.
post #13319 of 14741
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Originally Posted by wco81 View Post

Did you sign up for their cable modem service too?

No, I get DSL for free from Centurylink.

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Originally Posted by dcowboy7 View Post

How can someone not like any sports i just dont get that ?
Thats whats great about living here in the NY market sports is huge !!
I couldnt take being in a place where sports is just an afterthought.

I do like English Premier League Soccer (and get the HD channel with Comcast). American football I could never understand as I wasn't exposed to it growing up in the UK. I do like baseball (Cubs fan) and do watch a lot of baseball during the season.
post #13320 of 14741
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Originally Posted by MrZoid View Post

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Originally Posted by MichaelLAX 
Also: there is no longer a mechanical spinning wheel in our color TV's

Unless you have a DLP! biggrin.gif

Mr Zoid

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Originally Posted by Church AV Guy View Post


There is if you're using a DLP projector in your home theater!
I did not know that, SIR!

WOW: Digital Light Processing - Wikipedia



So, CBS Research Labs have been vindicated after all!!! biggrin.gif

INVENTION OF COLOR TELEVISION - PART 1
Edited by MichaelLAX - 7/21/12 at 10:59am
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