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Originally Posted by mx6bfast View Post

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Thank You
post #13382 of 14319
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Originally Posted by NetworkTV View Post

No, there are fundamental differences.
- With streaming, you seldom have more than a small portion of the content actually local to you. With downloading, it's all local. When you download, the need for compression is less of an issue since you don't have to worry about buffers running out.
- In the case of streaming, there isn't always a "rewind" or "fast forward". Downloading often gives you more control. Streaming can often disable basic controls and (in the case of video streaming) often adds preroll ads every time you start a segment. Downloading is a final product. While it's possible to disable some controls, that's rare (note I'm talking downloading, not recording, like normal TV recording on a DVR).
- Copy protection is easier to handle with a stream since there always has to be a connection to the mothership to play it and you never get the whole thing.
- Streaming means playback. Downloading means you store it with no guarantee you'll ever play it.
Technology wise, downloading is about the file while streaming is about the transfer. Further, streaming is about the content from bit one as opposed to downloading which is only about the content if you actually select the file and play it. Streaming always uses bandwidth. Downloading only uses bandwidth the first time you access it.
Ownership wise, streaming is about a rental, or a lease. There is no ownership. Rights are granted and removed without any say in the matter from the user. Validation is always required to play the content. With downloads, very often ownership is final. There may be copy protection to prevent duplication, but you posess a copy that you can play back at any time, any number of times in most cases, often without the need for an internet connection.

and none of that has anything at all to do with the bitrate of the audio. I still say that 24/192 will do nothing for you in playback of streaming OR downloaded media. Please try to stay in context and don't argue from the specific to the general. That sort of logic doesn't work.
post #13383 of 14319
2012 Summer Olympics coverage:

NBC – (local or) Ch. 392
NBC Sports Network – Ch. 603
MSNBC – Ch. 356
CNBC – Ch. 355
Bravo – Ch. 237
Telemundo – Ch. 406/407
Soccer specialty channel – Ch. 751
Basketball specialty channel – Ch. 752
3D coverage on n3D – Ch. 103

and:


http://www.nbcolympics.com/liveextra/
post #13384 of 14319
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Originally Posted by PiratesCove View Post

2012 Summer Olympics coverage:
NBC – (local or) Ch. 392
NBC Sports Network – Ch. 603
MSNBC – Ch. 356
CNBC – Ch. 355
Bravo – Ch. 237
Telemundo – Ch. 406/407
Soccer specialty channel – Ch. 751
Basketball specialty channel – Ch. 752
3D coverage on n3D – Ch. 103
and:
http://www.nbcolympics.com/liveextra/
Thanks very much. I did not know about all of these other channels.
post #13385 of 14319
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Originally Posted by GlassWolf View Post

and none of that has anything at all to do with the bitrate of the audio. I still say that 24/192 will do nothing for you in playback of streaming OR downloaded media. Please try to stay in context and don't argue from the specific to the general. That sort of logic doesn't work.
I didn't say it did.

I was responding to your post where you said:
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streaming, downloading.. same thing. it's all "playback."

If you had said something like "streaming, downloading..it doesn't affect the bit rate ", then I wouldn't have responded (other than to say streaming might use a lower rate for buffering purposes). You made a statement regarding the state of the transport mechanism. That's what my response was in regards to.
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Might I suggest that instead of consternation we all simply enjoy the plethora of entertainment at our fingertips.

"To Life, Love & Loot"
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Edited by 49Merc - 7/28/12 at 1:18pm
post #13387 of 14319
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Originally Posted by NetworkTV View Post

I didn't say it did.
I was responding to your post where you said:
If you had said something like "streaming, downloading..it doesn't affect the bit rate ", then I wouldn't have responded (other than to say streaming might use a lower rate for buffering purposes). You made a statement regarding the state of the transport mechanism. That's what my response was in regards to.

Like I said already, you took my statement out of context. My statement was specifically in reference to the ongoing conversation on playback bitrate.
post #13388 of 14319
Hey all quick question. I asked the person running the DirecTV Twitter feed when we would be allowed to view recorded content from our DVR on our iPads. They replied, "Yes! There is now a DIRECTV app that will let you do it." I searched the app store and also looked at the existing app but I see nothing. Am I missing something?
post #13389 of 14319
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Originally Posted by Stryker412 View Post

Hey all quick question. I asked the person running the DirecTV Twitter feed when we would be allowed to view recorded content from our DVR on our iPads. They replied, "Yes! There is now a DIRECTV app that will let you do it." I searched the app store and also looked at the existing app but I see nothing. Am I missing something?

They might be referring to Nomad. But you need more than just an app for that.
post #13390 of 14319
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Originally Posted by KK in CT View Post

They might be referring to Nomad. But you need more than just an app for that.

$150 for nomad plus app.
post #13391 of 14319
This is really getting annoying.

It's bad enough that all the Cinemax channels show up in my guide even though I don't subscribe to it and have the guide set to only show channels that I get, but now all the Encore channels are showing as well.

What the hell is wrong with these people that they can't fix something this simple?
post #13392 of 14319
"Channels I Get" has been broken for many, many years. I wouldn't expect it to ever be fixed. I highly recommend making yourself a favorites list so you don't have to worry about it.
post #13393 of 14319
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Originally Posted by Tom Imp View Post

This is really getting annoying.
It's bad enough that all the Cinemax channels show up in my guide even though I don't subscribe to it and have the guide set to only show channels that I get, but now all the Encore channels are showing as well.
What the hell is wrong with these people that they can't fix something this simple?

Not to worry, your problem is easily resolved. Yo need to create a custom channel guide.

1. Click Guide
2. Move down to Settings & Help
3. Click on Settings & Help
4. Move to Favorite Channels
5. Move to Custom 1
6. NOTE: The channels you receive will be checked
7. NOTE: To go to a specific channel simply enter the channel number. For instance, enter 515. The list will go directly to Cinemax HD East.
8. Edit the list by unchecking any station you do no want displayed on your Custom 1 Guide. Repeat as necessary.
9. When you have finished press the left arrow on your remote to the Custom 1 option menu.
10. If you wish you may click on Name List the spell out the name you wish display in lieu of Custom 1.
11. When done navigate to Update Name or Don't Update, click OK
12. If finished press Exit.
13. To verify you are viewing your Custom menu navigate to Favorite Channels again then look to see if your Current Favorites is Custom 1 or the name you choose.
14. If the Current Favorities is not Custom 1 or the name you choose then click on Choose a List.
15. The Current Favorities should appear in the option box.
16. Click on the option box the select Custom 1 or the name you choose.
17. Click on Custom 1 or the name you choose.
18. Click on the left arrow. Click on Done.
19. You are finished.

GOOD LUCK
post #13394 of 14319
BBC America HD and Nat Geo Wild HD (and possibly more) are coming in August per the DirecTV Facebook page and later confirmed by another insider.

http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=3070821#post3070821

http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=3070880#post3070880
post #13395 of 14319
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Originally Posted by mws192 View Post

BBC America HD and Nat Geo Wild HD (and possibly more) are coming in August per the DirecTV Facebook page and later confirmed by another insider.
http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=3070821#post3070821
http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=3070880#post3070880

Excellent news.

Now I just need 3 more channels (HLN, QVC, and HSN) to become HD and D* will be the best HD provider.
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Hmm, wonder where home shopping channels rank among the most-wanted HD channels from subscribers.
post #13397 of 14319
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Originally Posted by wco81 View Post

Hmm, wonder where home shopping channels rank among the most-wanted HD channels from subscribers.
Those channels pay to be carried. They aren't costing you anything. The same goes for those religious channels.

Besides, you'd be surprised at the number of people who leave their TVs tuned to QVC nearly constantly. It's even more than the Weather Channel.
Edited by NetworkTV - 8/5/12 at 3:03pm
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Originally Posted by NetworkTV View Post

It's even more than the Weather Channel.

Not if you live in south Florida;)
post #13399 of 14319
If it was not for the Shopping & Religious channels, pay to watch tv would be a whole lot more expensive to bring into the home, than what it costs with them being there. I hid all of the shopping channels and dup SD channels on my UVerse box, so that I could skip over them when going through the guide.
post #13400 of 14319
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Originally Posted by mws192 View Post

BBC America HD and Nat Geo Wild HD (and possibly more) are coming in August per the DirecTV Facebook page and later confirmed by another insider.
http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=3070821#post3070821
http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=3070880#post3070880
Sweet. That'll just about do it as far as my HD wants go. I think the only thing left is IFC.
post #13401 of 14319
A few years ago (2006, I believe) I went to QVC headquarters in West Chester, PA during a road trip to Philly and sat in the live studio audience for one of their Birthday presentations. It was a very interesting experience to say the least. I was on TV at least a dozen times when they panned across the audience, including a close up or two. Anyhow, QVC, and I would assume HSN, have an extreme cult like following. And I do mean extreme, just going there and seeing how glazed over people (mostly women) are is quite the sight. And if you think about it, what better channel to have in HD than a channel that specializes in selling merchandise, HD really enhances how well you can see the stuff on display. For those that laugh and think QVC is a write off, just remember as big as UPS is, and as much stuff as they ship, QVC is UPS’ #1 customer. So this channel must be doing something right.
post #13402 of 14319
I'd hazard a guess that QVC and HSN aren't HD because they don't want to pay the freight for HD bandwidth. Or, they really don't want you to see the crap they sell in HD...
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By ‘they’ do you mean HSN/QVC or DirecTV? Because both QVC and HSN have HD feeds and have had then for a while, just not on DirecTV. I’ve had QVC HD with TW Cable since the Fall of 2009, and HSN HD was added early on in 2011. Jewelry TV also has an HD feed, but I don’t get that.
post #13404 of 14319
"They" refers to QVC/HSN. Obviously "they" pay for carriage, presumably more for HD bandwidth. Could be the whores at TWC have made the HD premium less than D*, given that they have Switched Digital Video vs. D* having to allocate a full HD slot to them.
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Or it could be that TW values HD more than DirecTV does, and they believe that everything they broadcast in SD they should have the HD feed, if there is one available.
post #13406 of 14319
As a former TWC customer, I can say without hesitation, they do not give a $h!t aboot HD (quality).

Stuffing three linear HD channels in a single QAM slot, SDV that is even worse and their techs are trained to blame any PQ problems on the customer's equipment.

All to provide QVC & HSN in HD? If that's your priority, you have found your provider rolleyes.gif
post #13407 of 14319
I have both Time Warner and DirecTV, the picture quality is very comparable on each. I have spent an extensive amount of time comparing the difference between the two. Some channels may be slightly better on DirecTV, some are not, but it’s not that big of a difference. And with DirecTV’s extremely poor HD line up, watching H2, DIY, Style, TV Land, Bloomberg and a host of others on Time Warner in HD, sure as hell beats DirecTVs SD.
post #13408 of 14319
So, why don't you drop your D* service? My experience is that TWC's HD PQ is horrible (confirmed by friends who are/were TWC customers). More channels with unwatchable PQ is not what I'm looking for, especially when they include QVC/HSN.
post #13409 of 14319
You do realize that cable picture quality is not universal, right? I subscribed to DirecTV again in February of this year after Time Warner temporarily removed MSG. I cannot live without my Buffalo Sabres. MSG returned, I could have canceled as I still was within my 30 window, but I decided to keep DirecTV due to their 3D content, and I would like to experience NFL Sunday Ticket. Plus I’m a TV geek and like playing around with different types of hardware and I like playing with the DirecTV beta CE software. I will probably cancel and pay the ETF before the two years is up, but for now, I’ll rock both.

I had DirecTV from 2004 – 2006 and absolutely hated it, I had my cable installation appointment set up two weeks prior to the date the contract was up, so on that exact day I could get rid of them. I absolutely hated the DirecTiVo DVRs and while I’m not overly thrilled with DirecTV, they are considerable better than they were back then.
post #13410 of 14319
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Originally Posted by gregzoll View Post

If it was not for the Shopping & Religious channels, pay to watch tv would be a whole lot more expensive to bring into the home, than what it costs with them being there. I hid all of the shopping channels and dup SD channels on my UVerse box, so that I could skip over them when going through the guide.
That may have been true a decade ago, but with as high carriage fees have gotten, I'm sure that has dwarfed what QVC and the other channels actually pay to be carried. It probably doesn't make that much of a difference now. The fees they pay may be just enough enough to warrant the space on a transponder, but probably not enough to make a difference in anyone's bill.
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Originally Posted by Steve Mehs View Post

For those that laugh and think QVC is a write off, just remember as big as UPS is, and as much stuff as they ship, QVC is UPS’ #1 customer. So this channel must be doing something right.
I wouldn't be surprised if that's changed by now. Amazon, especially with the popularity of "Prime", may have taken the top slot by now. But, if QVC isn't first, they're likely second.
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