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Well, solid except for Ion. I just looked at the schedule and it looks like it's nothing but reruns of shows on other networks. it looks like another Universal HD, after UHD decided to stop airing uncut/unedited content. I have no idea why that channel even exists anymore.

OTA? Before I got sat, but after digital TV, it was great to have - sort of like a cable channel for OTA peeps. Of course then, they were showing on of my favorite shows - which they just bought the lot of I guess (L&O CI.)
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Originally Posted by ti-triodes View Post

+1
Isn't there already a Fox Soccer channel? And ESPN has been pushing Soccer like crazy. Enough soccer.

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Originally Posted by ti-triodes View Post

+1
Isn't there already a Fox Soccer channel? And ESPN has been pushing Soccer like crazy. Enough soccer.



Love soccer, need more soccer HD channels:)
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Originally Posted by revm1m View Post

Love soccer, need more soccer HD channels:)

+1!!
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More soccer HD channels as long as you don't have to pay an extra package for them. Otherwise, put more games on ESPN channels, since we have to pay for them anyways.
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Originally Posted by Steve Mehs View Post

I have both Time Warner and DirecTV, the picture quality is very comparable on each. I have spent an extensive amount of time comparing the difference between the two. Some channels may be slightly better on DirecTV, some are not, but it’s not that big of a difference. And with DirecTV’s extremely poor HD line up, watching H2, DIY, Style, TV Land, Bloomberg and a host of others on Time Warner in HD, sure as hell beats DirecTVs SD.
+1 Amen brother well said. It's a complete joke D* still does NOT have a biggie channel like DIY in SD after all this time. Although I need my daily fixin of qvc, hsn, and shopNBC I can tolerate it in SD but a channel like DIY is a must HD.

I'm still baffled also as why D* does not have NAT GEO Wild, OWN, and ID in HD yet. And COOK and VH1 classic too. I would love to jump ship to TWC but it's just too much of a hassle to make the switch I mean CMON, it's 2013 and we're almost in 4K2K era all of these channels should be in HD.
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Originally Posted by zoey67 View Post

+1 Amen brother well said. It's a complete joke D* still does NOT have a biggie channel like DIY in SD after all this time. Although I need my daily fixin of qvc, hsn, and shopNBC I can tolerate it in SD but a channel like DIY is a must HD.
I'm still baffled also as why D* does not have NAT GEO Wild, OWN, and ID in HD yet. And COOK and VH1 classic too. I would love to jump ship to TWC but it's just too much of a hassle to make the switch I mean CMON, it's 2013 and we're almost in 4K2K era all of these channels should be in HD.
I've seen a lot of websites and shows talk about how the OWN channel is getting terrible ratings. If that channel is getting that bad of ratings and is possibly going to go under shortly should D* carry it in HD?
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Originally Posted by zoey67 View Post

+1 Amen brother well said. It's a complete joke D* still does NOT have a biggie channel like DIY in SD after all this time. Although I need my daily fixin of qvc, hsn, and shopNBC I can tolerate it in SD but a channel like DIY is a must HD.
I'm still baffled also as why D* does not have NAT GEO Wild, OWN, and ID in HD yet. And COOK and VH1 classic too. I would love to jump ship to TWC but it's just too much of a hassle to make the switch I mean CMON, it's 2013 and we're almost in 4K2K era all of these channels should be in HD.

First, you DO realize that ShopNBC, & VH1 Classic do NOT even offer an HD feed for ANY provider to even add yet...so not sure how you would expect D* to even carry those in HD... confused.gif

But that being said, it even MORE of a TOTAL joke that D* STILL is NOT carrying - NOR has even been considered to be announced in the next round - of HLN, H2, LMN, or Style. Hello, but ALL 3 other providers that I could have (Comcast, U-verse & DISH) have carried ALL 4 of these channels for almost TWO years now - while D* subs STILL wait for them to maybe spoon feed them out to us one at a time! mad.gifmad.gif Oh yea, add G4 HD to that mix as well - oops, almost forgot...D* doesn't even carry it in SD - so guessing it certainly won't even be on their HD radar. tongue.gif
And we just NOW got TCM after waiting all this time - PU'LEASE! Not to mention we still don't have any of the HD Encores such as Indie & Retro-plex's.

Then the last straw of this, is that D* started actually charging me their BS $10 HD Access fee, as evidently my 24 month's FREE access ran out. Sorry, but ain't NO f'ing way in HELL I would give D* a dime for HD Access...for THIS current HD lineup...get real! I did call & the CSR did acquiesce to giving me a $10/month pkg credit f/1 year to make up for it running out - how fricken generous. rolleyes.gif

And yes, I am very much planning on dumping D* when I move next month...just biding my time with them now, til I kick them to the curve!
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beIN SPORT is the new home of some of the world's most exciting soccer,

Does that mean they will edit the games down to about 20 seconds each? wink.gif
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Are the new channels active? What numbers are they?

It's odd the channels they added over the years I would have to learn about from AVS (probably this thread).
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Originally Posted by CPanther95 View Post

Does that mean they will edit the games down to about 20 seconds each? wink.gif
Nah, just down to the goals - which means they'll be plenty of times when there isn't a game at all... wink.gif
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Originally Posted by zoey67 View Post

+1 Amen brother well said. It's a complete joke D* still does NOT have a biggie channel like DIY in SD after all this time. Although I need my daily fixin of qvc, hsn, and shopNBC I can tolerate it in SD but a channel like DIY is a must HD.
I'm still baffled also as why D* does not have NAT GEO Wild, OWN, and ID in HD yet. And COOK and VH1 classic too. I would love to jump ship to TWC but it's just too much of a hassle to make the switch I mean CMON, it's 2013 and we're almost in 4K2K era all of these channels should be in HD.

The issue is those channels are important to you... Odds are there are more people who have zero interest in seeing those channels in HD. I'm one of them. While I occasionally watch DIY, I have no burning desire to see it in HD as a large portions of the shows would end up as stretched SD. Just as all the crappy religious stations are immediately deleted in my home so are the crappy shopping channels. I'm sure there are others that feel the opposite, that's fine, but D goes wiht what they can get a deal on and sometimes what people want.
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Anyone have an idea if Directv will be picking up any Arabic channels? I recall them having them in the past...

Or is anyone familiar with a stand-alone service I can have piggyback onto my directv service?

Any help / insight is greatly appreciated!
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Originally Posted by CPanther95 View Post

Does that mean they will edit the games down to about 20 seconds each? wink.gif

Where is the like button?
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Originally Posted by dishrich View Post

First, you DO realize that ShopNBC, & VH1 Classic do NOT even offer an HD feed for ANY provider to even add yet...so not sure how you would expect D* to even carry those in HD... confused.gif
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Well that's the point, we're in 2013 now...there is no reason in the world EVERY tv station should not be broadcasting in HD.
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Originally Posted by zoey67 View Post

Well that's the point, we're in 2013 now...there is no reason in the world EVERY tv station should not be broadcasting in HD.
...but the point is, that's not D*'s fault. They aren't going to carry an HD channel that doesn't exist.
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Sorry to butt in but is there a way to have DTV, Dish & cable all running through my receiver via the cable/sat HDMI slot? Do they make a switcher or something so can just turn one off & the other on - not get up & hit a switch? Wow, that sounds lazy but I'm looking to hide as much equient as possible

Thanks
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I am under no illusions that my directv bill has risen substantially over the past years. Even with the inevitable price hikes, the addition of all the high definition material makes d* a much higher value to me. All of my Sunday shows...
True Blood
Falling Skies
The Newsroom
Breaking Bad
Family Guy

...can be experienced in amazing quality. (Some better than others.)

(Most of my shows seem to fall on Sunday)
I guess I'm old enough to appreciate the quality, and don't get me started on the DVR! smile.gif
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Originally Posted by zoey67 View Post

Well that's the point, we're in 2013 now...there is no reason in the world EVERY tv station should not be broadcasting in HD.

"doubleplusgood"
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Originally Posted by armand9601 View Post

Sorry to butt in but is there a way to have DTV, Dish & cable all running through my receiver via the cable/sat HDMI slot? Do they make a switcher or something so can just turn one off & the other on - not get up & hit a switch? Wow, that sounds lazy but I'm looking to hide as much equient as possible
Thanks

For starters, check out Auto and Powered HDMI switches on Monoprice (a sponsored vendor). You will find many options, some including a remote control so you can be lazy. I would think others would simply switch to an active HDMI signal when sources are powered on/off. But yes, you can be lazy if you like!

Here's a simple 3 to 1 that might work: http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=101&cp_id=10110&cs_id=1011001&p_id=8149&seq=1&format=2#description
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Originally Posted by armand9601 View Post

Sorry to butt in but is there a way to have DTV, Dish & cable all running through my receiver via the cable/sat HDMI slot? Do they make a switcher or something so can just turn one off & the other on - not get up & hit a switch? Wow, that sounds lazy but I'm looking to hide as much equient as possible
Thanks

Sorry for being so inquisitive yet why would one simintaneously want or require service from DTV, DISH & Cable? eek.gif
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Originally Posted by zoey67 View Post

Well that's the point, we're in 2013 now...there is no reason in the world EVERY tv station should not be broadcasting in HD.

Well, uh, YEA there is...first, there IS an increased cost that the programmer DOES have to incur to transition to an HD signal - such as higher (satellite) bandwidth costs to transmit their (HD) signal to affiliates, swapping out satellite receivers at EACH providers downlink sites. (which the programmers normally front that cost) Then you have the costs of that programmer changing their infrastructure for that particular service to support an HD signal.

Then these programmers have to consider...just HOW many of their programming partners (ie: cable, satellite, IPTV, etc. providers) ARE actually willing to allocate their already limited bandwidth to another HD signal on their system. They are NOT (normally) going to just let any channel on the HD lineup, just because it IS in HD. (but YOU already knew that, right???)

Now lets get REALLY practical on your rant regarding these channels such as VH1 Classic & ShopNBC...

VH1C is running pretty much ALL of it's programming (ie: music videos) from pre-HD days. What IS the point of VH1C spending ALL that $$$, to basically "up-convert" SD video, into an HD signal? AND, I don't know about you, but I sure as hell do NOT want this pre-HD stuff upconverted in STRETCH-O-VISION - sorry.

ShopNBC - all I'm going to say on that is...ARE YOU KIDDING???
Edited by dishrich - 8/12/12 at 2:43pm
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Originally Posted by 49Merc View Post

Sorry for being so inquisitive yet why would one simintaneously want or require service from DTV, DISH & Cable? eek.gif

Well as someone that has all these right now...as well as OTA signals, I'll answer that...

(Obviously) so that I CAN get ALL (or at least most of) the HD channels I DO watch...since as you should know, NO provider offers it all.
Actually, make that even some SD channels I like...

I use both sat providers, so that I can get different sets of local channels from surrounding markets, which can't be done on Cable or my OTA antenna

Until recently, DirecTV was my "primary" video provider, since I have FREE lifetime DVR service from them, as well as their added receiver charges were the cheapest.
I then had a very limited DISH pkg, (Welcome pak) plus the superstation pkg, with "no-DVR fee" DVR's (sorry, but ANY TV service I have MUST be DVR'able biggrin.gif )
I then had limited basic Comcast cable, since I also had their internet service; it was basically a wash on price, if you ONLY have internet service w/NO TV. I used the (limited) TV service with a (fee free) Replay DVR, as we still had analog cable signals.

Now fast-forward to now...

Comcast offered me NEW customer pricing on an HD triple-play pkg w/DVR for 2 years. Since I also had AT&T local phone service, the price difference to bring it to Comcast, AND upgrade the TV to HD preferred was ONLY $20/month more, it was a no-brainer to me. Comcast DOES carry several SD AND HD channels that NEITHER DirecTV OR DISH carries, so in my mind, it WAS worth the extra $20.

DISH Network then gave me an offer to upgrade all THREE of my current SD receivers (2 DVR's & a standard receiver) to HD for FREE! Since my current receivers WERE going to have to be replaced eventually, AND I would eventually loose the FRE DVR service regardless, I then upgraded my prog pkg to AT250. (as part of these receiver replacements, I STILL get a DVR fee credit for the next year+) The one thing you CAN do on DISH DVR's, that you CANNOT do on anyone elses, is x-fer shows off the internal HDD's, to external ones - as well as between multiple DVR's on the same account. While I am aware about the fights DISH gets into with programmers, the nice thing is, I have CC HDTV for a backup source for pretty much any of their channels. wink.gif

With these 2 providers, about the ONLY channel I'm missing now is Smithsonian HD. (CC does have it in SD now; I'm hoping they add the HD version in the very near future, as they just shut off ALL our remaining analog channels a couple months ago)

Since my new place qualifies for U-verse, I actually thought about giving them a try. BUT, I could NEVER get used to only having 12mg internet service (fastest speed I qualify for) after having 20mg BLAST internet, which IS going up to 50mg in the near future! Also, ONLY being able to do 3 simultaneous HD streams would NEVER cut it for me on their TV service - not to mention the fact of how overly-compressed the HD picture quality is. It's a shame, because other than NOT having the Hallmark channels, their SD AND HD lineup blows away ALL 3 other providers! (CC, DISH, D*)

As I basically stated before, as far as I'm concerned, DirecTV has started going into the toilet! Between the last-place (basic) HD lineup, as well as the fact I'm still having to use crappy SLOW-A$$ HR20 receivers - that D* refuses to replace on their dime - I'm ready to dump their a$$! For my needs, they no longer have a compelling service; I guess that since I don't sub to any premium channels, or OD on sports 24/7, maybe that's why I feel this way.
It's pretty sad that even though the DVR's I got from both DISH (722 & 612) & Comcast (DCX3501) are based on older technology, ALL of them run circles (speed-wise) around the POS HR20's. When you push a button on any of these receivers to do something, they actually DO do something right away - NOT 20-30 seconds later! mad.gif

So I guess in a bit, I WILL be paring down from 4 to 3 TV providers... biggrin.gifbiggrin.gif
Edited by dishrich - 8/12/12 at 2:49pm
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So with all those services, what is your ballpark total monthly spend on television and internet service? If you can't extract telephone service easily, include that and I'll do some math based on my service. I'd just like to compare to my monthly spend on D*tv and comcast internet.
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(note I added some other info, so that you can compare "apples to apples" smile.gif )

total CC X3 bill - $146 (however, that WILL be dropping by $7 next month, as I am buying my own EMTA, as I do NOT care to pay CC $7 forever, for a $150 modem rolleyes.gif )
includes 1 DVR, 2 (free) DTA's, HD digital preferred TV pkg & BLAST internet (& unlimited phone, of course)

total DISH bill - $96
includes a 722, 612 & 211 HD receivers, AT250, superstation tier & 1/2 price Blockbuster f/6 months

I am NOT including my $100+ D* bill, as it IS definitely going bye-bye by end of the month... wink.gif
Edited by dishrich - 8/12/12 at 3:55pm
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How did we get into 2013? What happened to the last 4 months or so of 2012?
Did the planet pass thru a black hole and warp ahead in time?

Damn, I'm 4 1/2 months older, and I ain't liking this. Damn, damn!
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Originally Posted by 49Merc View Post

Sorry for being so inquisitive yet why would one simintaneously want or require service from DTV, DISH & Cable? eek.gif

dish rich,
After reading then rereading your answer to my above referenced question I am at a loss for words. If you are married, which I suspect you are not, then you have one understanding wife. Needless to say, your penchant to have so many entertainment choices, duplicate or not, along with such painstaking specitisify is certainly far beyond the norm.
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Originally Posted by 49Merc View Post

dish rich,
After reading then rereading your answer to my above referenced question I am at a loss for words. If you are married, which I suspect you are not, then you have one understanding wife. Needless to say, your penchant to have so many entertainment choices, duplicate or not, along with such painstaking specitisify is certainly far beyond the norm.

He's got no time for a wife or to date, he's too busy watching TV!
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(note I did update my DISH spend by $5, as I just had added 1/2 price Blockbuster f/6 months)
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Originally Posted by oriolesmagic View Post

He's got no time for a wife or to date, he's too busy watching TV!

Sorry to tell you this, but (unfortunately) I'm MORE busy having to work more for my job, than watching TV.
BUT the extra OT does help pay for my CC/DISH vice. And while I can't get out of my extra work hours, guess what - I WILL be retiring in 4 years @53! biggrin.gif
But with multiple DVR's, I will (eventually) find time to catch up on what I've been missing.

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Originally Posted by 49Merc View Post

dish rich,

If you are married, which I suspect you are not,

Just to my hobby. They DON'T nag & I don't have to clean up after them biggrin.gifbiggrin.gif
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Needless to say, your penchant to have so many entertainment choices, duplicate or not, along with such painstaking specitisify is certainly far beyond the norm

Well it may very well be - BUT if you think about it like this:

- My total spend of $235 includes ALL TV, internet & phone services...as well as ALL those pesky (extra) taxes & fees associated with them. There are many (triple-play) subs to Comcast, TWC, etc. - that probably spend at least this much, if not MORE, for similar service to just ONE provider. Instead, I have chosen to spend the same amount "spread out" over 2 providers & get a better diversity of choices & services. Just blindly going out & getting a x3 service from ONE chosen provider, is NOT always the best thing for everyone.

- It's hardly "painstaking"...if you have a computer w/internet, & take a close look at your bills, ANYONE else can do the very same thing quite easily. The larger problem is, knowing what you really want for your needs - as well as knowing exactly what you are getting from your current provider(s). Most people do NOT bother doing this, but complain about what they ARE getting. It's hardly "rocket-science" to find these things out. - but you are correct, in that most "normal" people do NOT bother to take assessments (at least to this level anyway) of how they are spending their entertainment $$$'s.

- I will agree w/you that how I'm doing my choices, IS probably "beyond the norm" - but I do NOT consider myself "in the norm"; I'll take this as a compliment. smile.gif

- I DO also understand that not everyone can even afford $235/month on this kind of stuff. BUT by the same token, understand that I do NOT take many trips, (my current job situation is precluding that right now frown.gif ) I do not go to any movies, rent DVD's &/or do Netflix, & I do NOT have other "vices" (booze, cigarettes, buying new vehicles every couple years, etc.) that require me to spend $$$ on those types of things. At the end of the day, it really all comes down to ones "priorities"... wink.gif

- When my promo's run out on BOTH CC & DISH, I may change things around again. Again, this goes into the thing above about assessing my current needs & what I'm getting for my $$$ from my current providers. I might even do some "downgrades" before that time, or after - again, it comes down to assessing my needs & desires down the road.
Maybe by then, DirecTV WILL have a better HD lineup (I would sure as hell hope so rolleyes.gif ) as well as Comcast &/or DISH would as well - again, we'll just have to see what happens a year or two from now.
I may also decide down the road, that I do NOT need a landline at my house any longer; right now, I simply do NOT like having ONLY a cell phone. But considering I DO work in the telco industry, would probably not surprise you with that statement. wink.gif

- As a consolation, I am spending WAY less on cell phone service, for a single person household. I am only spending $25/month for unlimited talk & texting - with NO data (internet) service on it. I am on a family share plan with some good friends of mine, & while it costs them only $10/month to add me on, I give them $25/month compensation. (for taxes/fees, etc.) It's a win-win for the BOTH of us - but I'm still paying LESS than if I tried to get the SAME level of service on my own.

- I DO also have XM radio in my primary car; however, I do NOT pay a monthly fee for it! When I bought my car (Santa Fe, BTW) back in 2009, I bought lifetime on it for $399. (right after that, it went up to $461) Since I keep my cars usually for at least 5+ years, at the current monthly prices of SXM, the lifetime XM has already paid for itself.
BTW, they ALSO added the "Best of Sirius" pkg onto my lifetime XM as well - at NO extra charge. The current price on lifetime SXM, is about double what I paid for it back in 2009; I think I made a wise decision to do the lifetime back in 2009. biggrin.gif
Edited by dishrich - 8/12/12 at 4:48pm
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Originally Posted by 49Merc View Post

dish rich,
After reading then rereading your answer to my above referenced question I am at a loss for words. If you are married, which I suspect you are not, then you have one understanding wife. Needless to say, your penchant to have so many entertainment choices, duplicate or not, along with such painstaking specitisify is certainly far beyond the norm.

dishrich,
My best friend wife of 32 years just informed me that my response to you was not nice. Being a gentleman I sincerely regret bringing any public embrassment upon you.

49Merc

P.S. Am I whipped or what! tongue.gif
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