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post #391 of 14741
[quote=twelvepbrs;11737841]Have you tried putting the BBC before the first diplexer? it worked for my cable service, not sure about OTA though, but I'd imagine that cable uses even higher frequencies than OTA so maybe just give it a try if it's not too hard. QUOTE]

I tried it and it worked. Thanks I don't have to wait for that SWM switch.
Thanks again.
post #392 of 14741
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Originally Posted by toboggan View Post

Not DirecTV's fault? How so. Does the technology dictate that these two extremely popular channels be carried on sats that a large portion of their customer base? No. Do HBO and ESPN require MPEG2? No. It is entirely DirecTVs decision and for the record, I've had two CSRs tell me that these would be transitioned when the new sats go online. If that ends up NOT being their plan, I will change providers.

Large customer base, I don't think so, it's a small minority especially since D* installers nornally won't install if there's no LOS to the sats. A good number of customers can see 119 since a large number of SD LIL spot beams are on 119.

Do any of the legacy HD channels require MPEG2, nope and nobody every said that they did. If a D* CSR told you that HBO and ESPN would transition to the 99/103 sats then they were guessing, usually CSR's don't know info like that, hell some folks calling in today were being told the new channels weren't up yet and wouldn't be until 2008, that's how much CSR's know.

If you need those two channels that bad IMHO you better switch providers because nothing's been released saying when they would move to 99/103. BTW, don't go to E* then because their main slots are 110/119 and guess what's on 110, HBO and ESPN.
post #393 of 14741
foxeng

Regarding HD availability and legislation, its important to note that market forces are likely to play a much larger role in HDTV adoption than regulation, going forward. The best we can hope for is continued warring between D* and TWC, others over who offers the best/most HDTV channels.

If I recall correctly, originally the FCC was pushing for an "All Bits" provision that would have forced cablecos/satprovs to rebroadcast the original digital signal, bit for bit. But evidently with all the technical constraints and bandwidth maneuvering, it was recently dropped as part of compromise, which is too bad.

We need an exponential bandwidth breakthrough, I don't think MP4 is it.
post #394 of 14741
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Originally Posted by rlb View Post

I did a concurrent record on 501 and 70 so that I could switch between the two. Unless I'm crazy, there is a definite difference in picture quality between the two. Therefore, I believe 501 is either MPEG4 or they are allocating additional bandwidth to a 501 MPEG2 picture. Either one works for me!

How much space is each recording taking up on the HD? If you recorded for long enough you should notice a difference in size between the two. If 501 takes up less space it is probably MPEG4.
post #395 of 14741
Redskins/Giants game on NFL-HD (212) looks very good.
No motion artifacts that I can see at all.
It appears that even the NFL Films replays are shot in HD, and have that "film" look to them. Very nice
A+++ on this one
post #396 of 14741
I just noticed that too. Best looking game I've seen on D*
post #397 of 14741
I am in Philadelphia and receiving all the new channels..they actually look very good. I am not AVS pro, just your average viewer...so I guess not as critical and exacting as many on this forum. No problems at all with equipment(2 H20's) or reception.
post #398 of 14741
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Originally Posted by obxdiver View Post

Redskins/Giants game on NFL-HD (212) looks very good.
No motion artifacts that I can see at all.
It appears that even the NFL Films replays are shot in HD, and have that "film" look to them. Very nice
A+++ on this one

Yep the macroblocking I associate with ALL CBS sporting events is gone. Looks beautiful.
post #399 of 14741
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Originally Posted by skyehill View Post

Yep the macroblocking I associate with ALL CBS sporting events is gone. Looks beautiful.

But I guess this game was originally recorded in HD by FOX cameras since this game was on FOX Sunday at 4pm.
It did not look this good on my FOX OTA station, because I watched this game Sunday.
post #400 of 14741
My H20 is getting all of the channels without any problems...went thru to add them to my custom favs...I have the issue of entering the ch# ie206 and getting the SD version though. My HR20 sees all of the channels, but I am getting searching for signal on SAT1 or SAT2 randomly depending on the channel (but not all new HD ch's)... D* will be getting a call on that one... (ps. no diplexing of OTA going on here)... ps. The PQ looks GREAT on both boxes!
post #401 of 14741
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Originally Posted by islanders2 View Post

I decided to switch over to D* this morning from C*. I didn't know they were rolling out new HD channels and wanted to bundle services with ATT for the discount.

I got the HDDVR... is there any specific hardware I should request from the installer. My only concern would be getting an outdated dish or HDDVR. I know they have two of them on for HD and one for local.

Thanks for any suggestions.

I let you know how the PQ compars to C*

What the heck is "C*"???
post #402 of 14741
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Originally Posted by maxman View Post

What the heck is "C*"???

probably Comcast
post #403 of 14741
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Originally Posted by maxman View Post

What the heck is "C*"???

I think it means Cox Cable...or Comcast as noted above
post #404 of 14741
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Originally Posted by RKRocha View Post

My H20 is getting all of the channels without any problems...went thru to add them to my custom favs...I have the issue of entering the ch# ie206 and getting the SD version though. My HR20 sees all of the channels, but I am getting searching for signal on SAT1 or SAT2 randomly depending on the channel (but not all new HD ch's)... D* will be getting a call on that one... (ps. no diplexing of OTA going on here)... ps. The PQ looks GREAT on both boxes!

The H20 is known for doing that, there is suppose to be an upgrade, when I don't know.

What about your Multiswitch, do you have one, is it one of the new ones (can't remember the model# - zinwell 6x8 or 6x16?
post #405 of 14741
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Originally Posted by ichen View Post

After futzing around for an hour, we figured that the old grandfathered packages (total choice plus, etc) is the problem..

So, if you have those, you have to 'upgrade' to the new choice, choice xtra, plus dvr, plus hd dvt packages..

Not true. I have TC+. I get all of the HD channels I am supposed to get after the upgrade. It must have been something else on your account.
post #406 of 14741
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by obxdiver View Post

Redskins/Giants game on NFL-HD (212) looks very good.
No motion artifacts that I can see at all.
It appears that even the NFL Films replays are shot in HD, and have that "film" look to them. Very nice
A+++ on this one

???

Are you talking about a previous showing? It's in SD now.
post #407 of 14741
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Originally Posted by maxman View Post

What the heck is "C*"???

StarChoice. Grey market (for US subscribers) Canadian satellite service.
post #408 of 14741
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Originally Posted by obxdiver View Post

But I guess this game was originally recorded in HD by FOX cameras since this game was on FOX Sunday at 4pm.
It did not look this good on my FOX OTA station, because I watched this game Sunday.

Yep my bad, I was watching the GB-SD game.
post #409 of 14741
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Originally Posted by toboggan View Post

leave out ESPN and HBO thus making sure a good portion of your customer base that cannot get the 119 or 110 don't get these channels.

Did you just switch to D* recently?

If I could not get 110 or 119, I either would not sign-up with D* or I'd move.
post #410 of 14741
We'll I'm hesitate too ask this...but you only live once!!











ARE YOU HAPPY NOW MARV?????ROTFLMAO!!!
post #411 of 14741
All kidding aside..Im very pleased with the initial HD rollout!!!
post #412 of 14741
Thread Starter 
Marv is job hunting - hasn't had much chance to check out the new channels.
post #413 of 14741
Maybe it's my eyes playing tricks on me, and it's always been MPEG-4, but NESN-HD looked better to me this afternoon than at any other time in the past. It's not even on the 103. It's on the 99.
post #414 of 14741
I am watching nflhd right now and it is 4:3. I watched seattle bengals earlier and it was fine.
post #415 of 14741
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Originally Posted by brettstan View Post

I am watching nflhd right now and it is 4:3. I watched seattle bengals earlier and it was fine.

Same here. Weak.
post #416 of 14741
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Originally Posted by CPanther95 View Post

???

Are you talking about a previous showing? It's in SD now.

Yes it is 4x3 now

It was in glorious HD and was looking very very sweet.
Now why in the world would they switch it to 4x3?
post #417 of 14741
Its been this way for at least 30 minutes.
post #418 of 14741
I don't get any signal strength on 103b. I have the BBC installed - is the culprit either a bad dish install or diplexing? I know I am diplexing on one receiver but I didn't think the other one was. Both receivers have the exact same symptoms. I tried swapping my BBC but that didn't help.

Any ideas?
post #419 of 14741
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Originally Posted by foxeng View Post

The issue is with the new 5 LNB dish is it uses many of the OTA frequencies to get the Ka band to the receiver. You can't have two signals trying to use the same frequency at the same time. It is highly doubtful you will ever be able to diplex OTA and the sat signals as long as this method is used.

Putting the BBC before the diplexer works, so I'm not sure what else to say. Judging from what i've seen and intuition, the BBC converts these lower frequency bands up to a higher frequency, so if you put this before the D* and cable/ota signals are diplexed you should be good to go, unless you just enjoy having to recable your house

EDIT: found a good explanation of what the BBC does
post #420 of 14741
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Originally Posted by obxdiver View Post

I think it means Cox Cable...or Comcast as noted above

Comcast? Cox? Cablevision? Please, enough with the shorthand!

I think it's stupid how DirecTV is referred to as D* and Echostar is referred to as E* when they're better known as "Dish", also starting with a "D". I've always gotta stop and ponder which "D" they're talking about.
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