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post #151 of 3108
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Originally Posted by TF Ghost View Post

You guy's crack me up. "The warranty seems questionable" "That PDF form looks bogus"

How many of you have purchased from PP? How many of you got bogus forms or were lied to about your warranties? Okay then. They're a forum sponsor for a reason - if they manufactured fake warranty forms and lied to their customers AVS would pull their name off the site just like they did with TV Authority. Call Panasonic and verify it or stop posting. Bashing a manufacturer or dealer based on theories seems pretty stupid IMO.

That's got to be the worst form ever created. Did you even look at it?
It's Warranty Claim form, it's a marketing form, it's a rebate for the AE1000u form...

Yeah, right. Fully legit - just created by drunk subcontractors using MS Live! online.

I emailed Optoma about a form they had online last month that had similar problems and it was gone the next day...
post #152 of 3108
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Originally Posted by reconlabtech View Post

That's got to be the worst form ever created. Did you even look at it?
It's Warranty Claim form, it's a marketing form, it's a rebate for the AE1000u form...

Yeah, right. Fully legit - just created by drunk subcontractors using MS Live! online.

I emailed Optoma about a form they had online last month that had similar problems and it was gone the next day...

I read every word on the form, and at no time did I debate the fact that there are errors. Maybe you should re-read my post and respond with something relevant.
post #153 of 3108
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Originally Posted by TF Ghost View Post

I read every word on the form, and at no time did I debate the fact that there are errors. Maybe you should re-read my post and respond with something relevant.

i never said PP was the source of the form. Ever heard of hackers?

It probably is the form they were given to provide but i wouldn't submit it. I have sent in plenty of rebate forms and had to call on 50% of them just to get the company processing them to accept it. This form looks like a fight on the phone just waiting to happen.
post #154 of 3108
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Originally Posted by reconlabtech View Post

i never said PP was the source of the form. Ever heard of hackers?

It probably is the form they were given to provide but i wouldn't submit it. I have sent in plenty of rebate forms and had to call on 50% of them just to get the company processing them to accept it. This form looks like a fight on the phone just waiting to happen.

Hackers? C'mon. Be realistic. Some idiot at Panasonic provided a form that's riddled with errors. That being said, the posts were about PP providing a "bogus" form or noting a "questionable" warranty, which is not the case. I'm sure the info on their site came from Panasonic. In any case, a dealer that receives a form like that will make sure it's honored by the manufacturer if they're reputable, which I would assume all AVS sponsors are.
post #155 of 3108
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Originally Posted by TF Ghost View Post

Hackers? C'mon. Be realistic. Some idiot at Panasonic provided a form that's riddled with errors. That being said, the posts were about PP providing a "bogus" form or noting a "questionable" warranty, which is not the case. I'm sure the info on their site came from Panasonic. In any case, a dealer that receives a form like that will make sure it's honored by the manufacturer if they're reputable, which I would assume all AVS sponsors are.

That's why I admitted it's probably the form they were provided with BUT Panasonic does not get this form, some rebate processing company will and they can be a real pain to deal with. Panny needs a better form if this is how AX200 users are supposed to get their 2 year warranty.
post #156 of 3108
Ok, someone is modifying the form as we speak. Explain that? Now is says AX200u rebate instead of the AE1000u Rebate.

Who is doing that?
post #157 of 3108
The new document properties say it was created at 4:36pm - all they need to do now is remove the line that says Official Warranty Claim Form and Marketing Bulletin Number and it will look more like a real Rebate form.

Too funny! It's changing as we post!
post #158 of 3108
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Originally Posted by reconlabtech View Post

Ok, someone is modifying the form as we speak. Explain that? Now is says AX200u rebate instead of the AE1000u Rebate.

Who is doing that?

PP. If I were them I would've contacted Panasonic immediately and gotten authorization to fix the errors, or simply fixed them and notified Panasonic afterwards. Would you want mis-information on your site? I simply said they didn't create the form, but they have every right to edit out mis-information.
post #159 of 3108
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Originally Posted by reconlabtech View Post

The new document properties say it was created at 4:36pm - all they need to do now is remove the line that says Official Warranty Claim Form and Marketing Bulletin Number and it will look more like a real Rebate form.

Too funny! It's changing as we post!

Be careful, I heard those tinfoil hats can cause excessive sweating.
post #160 of 3108
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Originally Posted by TF Ghost View Post

PP. If I were them I would've contacted Panasonic immediately and gotten authorization to fix the errors, or simply fixed them and notified Panasonic afterwards. Would you want mis-information on your site? I simply said they didn't create the form, but they have every right to edit out mis-information.

Come on, where is the form really from? Dealers can edit official forms?

I think I need to hear from a dealer on that one!
post #161 of 3108
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Originally Posted by reconlabtech View Post

Come on, where is the form really from? Dealers can edit official forms?

I think I need to hear from a dealer on that one!

Agreed. I will defer all future comments until after an AVS sponsor posts. Nice arguing with you, Reconlabtech!
post #162 of 3108
Visual Apex another fourm sponsor with great service also has the form on their website.

The over goes until 11/30 but does not include the lamp. You must also send in the UPC to Panasonic. I wonder if they are planning a money rebate after Nov. 30th.
post #163 of 3108
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Originally Posted by TF Ghost View Post

Agreed. I will defer all future comments until after an AVS sponsor posts. Nice arguing with you, Reconlabtech!

I'll try to be more circumspect about my choice of words in the future!

Now, I should let the AX200u owners have their thread back!

post #164 of 3108
Pulled the trigger and ordered the AX200U last night from Jim @ VA, and mentioned all the controversy about the extended warranty forms out there. At the time he was not aware of the extended warranty, but he worked with me on a package that left me satisfied and worry-free.
post #165 of 3108
Well, I guess it can't be too good to be true: change from 1 yr / 2000 hours to 2 years / 2000 years.

It's like a car manufacturer announcing a change from 3 yr/30,000 miles to 6 years/30,000 miles. Who cares? We all know that you'll reach the mileage first.

Same thing is going to be true on this warranty. If they were really genuine in doubling their warranty, it should be 2 years and at least 3000 hours.
post #166 of 3108
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Originally Posted by kezug View Post

I can not seem to find the User Manual for the PT-AX200U. I went to Panasonic.com and found the PT-AX200U but not any manual (PDF).

http://panasonic.co.jp/pavc/global/p...ual/index.html

Also thought the site in general was quite helpful...

http://panasonic.co.jp/pavc/global/p...200/index.html
post #167 of 3108
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Originally Posted by reconlabtech View Post

I can give you 1 more and that should be all you need, SONY. They CAN produce some great products but they are still Sony and those products work great until they masticate your glutes one day. Now at the price for the AW-15, you can throw it under a bus when it does but I would rather bet on Matsushita/Panasonic/JVC to come through in the pinch. Sure the AX100u gave Panny a black eye, but that's small potatoes compared to Sony's history.

If the AX200u can't be calibrated to match the Sony so that 99.6% of the population can't tell the difference, you can grind up the AX200u and I'll drink it for breakfast!

These are $1K PJs, come on!

That's why I will continue to say at this price point buy the brand, color, shape, WAF preferred model and go with it. Only the discontinued, once overpriced models are going to do better and you have to deal with the slight increases in heat, noise, $500 replacement bulbs and problems the top three of that category seem to be exhibiting in order to enjoy that increased performance.

Of course, my statement was just a blatant attempt to generate some heated conversation but it can be fun too!

Only an idiot would do brand shopping who has no idea what he is doing.
Pannasonic has awefull record of reliabilty, Q control and warranty serice.
You could not generate one reason to support your claim that AX200 is the best 720 pj but rather opted to do brand bashing.
post #168 of 3108
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Originally Posted by CaspianM View Post

Only an idiot would do brand shopping who has no idea what he is doing.
Pannasonic has awefull record of reliabilty, Q control and warranty serice.
You could not generate one reason to support your claim that AX200 is the best 720 pj but rather opted to do brand bashing.

??? Got any numbers for those "non-bashing" comments? When you are a market leader, you will get more attention to your problems than the others, who have plenty of their own in all the categories you mentioned. Here are my numbers:


Where are yours?
post #169 of 3108
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Originally Posted by dvdvideo View Post

Mark, I have an HD70 and I am considering this panasonic and the sony aw15. I love the idea of the light sensor and the extra brightness, but I am terrified the actual ansi contrast of this unit will bit the big one so to speak. I had purchased a Benq W500 which is lcd and rated the same 6000:1 contrast, and I was extremely disapointed with the contrast compared to my HD70. In darker scenes it was really no contest, the HD70 ate the W500 for breakfast, my wife said no way (and she's not ussually that vocal), and yes, it was calibrated. I guess what I am asking is how does the HD70 really stack up against the AX200? Particularly in the areas of dark scene contrast and overall sharpness.... Thanks for your help!


I was worried about a few things going to the LCD Panny from the HD. I've read a lot about poor blacks and a general lack of contrast in LCD projectors and between the two I have here now I'd prefer to watch the Panny. I was going to try a couple pics of dark scenes but doubt the shadow detail I see will show up in the pics but I do see more shadow detail with the Panny and overall it has better color out of the box. I have an Avia disc I'll run when I put up a screen and get a few hours on the lamp. I was watching Transporter 2 last night and a shiny black car is shiny and very, very black. Plenty black enough to my uneducated eye. The pics below show a scene from Monsters inc in darkness and in full light. The first two can lights are only 18" from the wall. A big difference between the two but easily more than watchable in a well lit room. The second pic just shows some black and color. Again, the lack of sharpness in the pic is nothing more than the $79 DVD player being used at this time.



post #170 of 3108
In my telephone saga with Panasonic yesterday one of the departments I was directed to was the actual processing center for the rebates. The second time I spoke with the woman she was very nice and told me that she had just been handed the rebate form herself and honestly couldn't tell me any more than what the form said yet. She did tell me that it was a last minute thing.
post #171 of 3108
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Originally Posted by CaspianM View Post

Only an idiot would do brand shopping who has no idea what he is doing.
Pannasonic has awefull record of reliabilty, Q control and warranty serice.
You could not generate one reason to support your claim that AX200 is the best 720 pj but rather opted to do brand bashing.

In my opinion the Panasonics are still the best over all values out there. I am an idiot, but I don't think that really has anything to do with what many think of Panasonic projectors one way or the other.
post #172 of 3108
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Originally Posted by reconlabtech View Post

??? Got any numbers for those "non-bashing" comments? When you are a market leader, you will get more attention to your problems than the others, who have plenty of their own in all the categories you mentioned. Here are my numbers:


Where are yours?

So Camry is the best in your anology?
Hey you operate in whole different league. Good luck.
post #173 of 3108
question about Zoom feature (never owned a pj)

does it distort the picture like it does in a RPTV and make the picture look like crap? or does Zoom mean something different with projectors?
post #174 of 3108
There are straight zooms which keep circles looking like circles. Generally used for Letterbox / non-anamorphic material. Beyond that, I am not so sure what you mean.
post #175 of 3108
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Originally Posted by union1411 View Post

question about Zoom feature (never owned a pj)

does it distort the picture like it does in a RPTV and make the picture look like crap? or does Zoom mean something different with projectors?

The zoom is used to resize the picture. You could mount the PJ at 10 feet or 20 feet and still only project a 100" screen. This gives you a lot of options for placement.
post #176 of 3108
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Originally Posted by CaspianM View Post

So Camry is the best in your anology?
Hey you operate in whole different league. Good luck.

From the Kelly Blue Book review:

"Largely due to its solid reputation for quality and reliability, Toyota's mid-size Camry has been the best-selling car in America for seven of the past eight years. But it has also been less than exciting, so Toyota decided the best way to keep it on top was to broaden the appeal of its all-new 2007 Camry by improving its styling, performance and dynamics. Its curvier, though still conservative design provides more real and perceived room inside, and its steering, braking and handling are improved with a ride tuned toward comfort (although in the sportier SE the tuning is biased more toward crisper handling response). Engine choices are an updated 158-horsepower 2.4-liter four-cylinder or a new 268-horsepower 3.5-liter V6."

So yeah, Camry is a perfect example.

Thanks for the well wishes though!
post #177 of 3108
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Originally Posted by reconlabtech View Post

The zoom is used to resize the picture. You could mount the PJ at 10 feet or 20 feet and still only project a 100" screen. This gives you a lot of options for placement.

how about if you want 120" ? can you get that big from lets say 19.5 feet ?
post #178 of 3108
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Originally Posted by jluzbet View Post

how about if you want 120" ? can you get that big from lets say 19.5 feet ?

Yes. The beauty of this unit is its great flexibility for placement.

Calculator

For a 120" screen, you could have a throw of anywhere between 12.1 to 20.5 feet.
post #179 of 3108
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Originally Posted by jluzbet View Post

how about if you want 120" ? can you get that big from lets say 19.5 feet ?

Calculator from Panasonic...

http://panasonic.co.jp/pavc/global/p...169/ax200.html
post #180 of 3108
Can any owners comment on the new dynamic sharpness feature.
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