Official Axiom Owner's Thread - Page 35

Aloha Greg. Thanks for your thoughts.

It looks like you live down the road from me!

Bob

Given the direction everyone is going, I would forgo the rear (back) speakers and use them as WIDE or HEIGHT speakers. If your receiver is capable, of course.

Bob,

FWIW - My room is about the same size as yours. I went with M60's, VP150, and 4 QS8's. The M60's were no doubt overkill, but they do sound good. I personally would not get 2 QS8s and 2 QS4s. Get 4 of identical (either one should work in your room).

Among my other purchases today, I'm a new Axiom QS8 owner. I like the look and dipole functionality...and should be fun combining that with my other stuff. I was looking for high sensitivity so these won over the Emotiva ERD-1s.

I'm pairing them up with waveguide speakers...

CHT SHO-10s..

Should be fun! Good looking product!

Thanks, guys! I'll let you know what I end up with.

Congratulations on your purchase Greg. Make sure to post some pictures or at least a link to your thread here over at the Axiom site for others to enjoy.

Cheers,
Dean

Hi all. Long time AVS Forum browser, first time poster.
I've owned a pair of M22s for years and am now renovating finished basement to home theater. M22 on-wall mains, VP150 on-wall center, QS8 surrounds and Hsu VTF2 sub for a 5.1 set up (future pair of QS8s to round out 7.1). Denon AVR-991, Panny AE4000 projector to a 120" screen, Sony S570 Blu-Ray, Verizon FIOS, Monoprice cabling. Wish me luck and I'll keep you posted on progress. With the help of a handyman buddy and an understanding wife, I'm hoping to have a spectacular Super Bowl party!
Roger

Some pics would be nice.

I just installed a pair of On-wall M22's for my bedroom. When you remove the cable connector "T" from the speaker, you have to give it a little "oomph" to get it out. And be careful not to jam the screw driver into the palm of your hand! grrrrr.

Easiest speaker I've ever had to setup, and was surprised at how nice the speaker grills stick on with the magnets. Nice.

These came before my other speakers and cables (supposed to get rest today) so haven't heard anything other than stereo through them...which sounded fine.








So far Axioms get a '10' for looks...

Don't worry, they'll get a '10' for sound too. Good idea covering the speaker with a bag until all the finish work gets done.

Will do. This is going to be a little different from the wonderful works-in-progress that I've seen posted.
WAF Rules:
#1 No theater seating: this space doubles as a wine bar. Reuse sectional sofa - and you can forget about those operable curtains!
#2 Keep light color walls
#3 No floor standing behemoth speakers
Solution to #2 & #3 is Axiom On-wall M22s, VP-150, and QS-8s with special order eggshell white w/white grilles.
Attached are some CAD drawings of Plan A.

Roger

 

Jones Bsmt HT Plan Jan2010.pdf 110.88671875k . file

 

Screen Wall Elevation - Jan2010.pdf 27.7216796875k . file

 

AV Rack Wall Elevation.pdf 16.4560546875k . file

Roger, nice job on the CAD drawings. Looks like you're going to have a very nice area that will accommodate alot of uses.

I'm looking for some advice on what surrounds I should get. I got a pair of M22s for my mains about a year ago and love them so I'd like to look at Axiom again for the surrounds (and center eventually). You can see my living room in the photos attached. I was fortunate enough to be able to get in and run some wiring in the wall for the rear speakers while the house was being built (along with ~1000' of cat-6 ), and you can see the terminal plates in the second picture. My two concerns are: WAF (of course) and the fact that the walls that they will be mounted on are perpendicular to each other. This would seem to preclude using either the in wall or in/on wall versions of the M2. The regular M2s on the full metal bracket seem like they would be awfully big hanging up there. I know the QS-4s can also mount on the full metal brackets but I think they might be a difficult sale on the WAF.

Any suggestions?

I would use the QS8s for your room since it's pretty big and open. I think they will fill the room with sound better than the QS4s. As for mounting the QS speakers are very forgiving. I think you will do fine just using the T brackets they come with and flush mount them to the each wall. Even though they will be aimed perpendicular to each other it shouldn't matter at the distance they are from your seating because they really spread out the sound very well. I've found that unless they are very close to you it doesn't matter if they point directly at you of 90 degrees off to the side. More important in their performance is how close various reflective surfaces are, especially corners. Since both of your speakers are flat against a wall any difference you hear will only be in SPL which you can compensate for in your receiver by calibrating them to the same level.

If you used M2 speakers as your surrounds you would want to have them pointing generally toward your listening area. Rather than the expense of full metal bracket I would either make small shelves or check out Monoprice, as I think they have some small speaker brackets that would work and be much less expensive. Because your surrounds are far enough away from your seating you could get away with using direct radiating speakers like the M2s, however, for the best surround sound I would go with QS8s over M2s. Just a matter of whether you thinks it's worth the cost.

As for your center I would go with an M2. IMO the M2 is a perfect match to the M22s when crossed over to a subwoofer at 80Hz. And based on how far off to each side some of your seating is a vertical center speaker will have much better off axis performance than a horizontal one like the VP100 or VP150. The M2 also costs less.

One thin you might consider is ordering a pair of M2s and QS8s. That way you could try both out and if you don't think the QS8s are worth the extra money it should only cost you $30 to ship them back. This would also give you a chance to test an M2 as a center. Should you decide to keep the QS8s and one M2 then you'd only have one M2 to ship back at $15. Just a thought.

Just thought I'd drop in and say, "Hi!" I've been an Axiom owner for a long time now, even before they had any kind of internet presence and everything was through word of mouth. In fact, I had to order them from Marc at Audioshop in Ontario as they were the only dealer around at the time. They have since cut ties with him once they went to their own presence. Nice to see the "little company that could" all grown up!

Installed 2 new M80's yesterday, to replace Energy 22 Ref which went to the back for surround duty.


First impressions after listening for about 1 hour:

Better detail in the mid and high frequencies; voices, both male and female are truer than through the Energy's, in fact they're very impressive.
Ambience is better defined too and sounds more convincing.
Treble is rendered with very high fidelity, is very smooth and detailed (i need to listen to triangles...)

That's it for now, i might give more in-depth comments later on as i get more familiar with the sound.

My brain's break-in was done and finished in just a few seconds, minutes at most; i adopted the sound right away and got a big smile on my face too.

Thanks to all who gave their comments on those speakers; they helped me make a good decision.

Hello Axiom enthusiasts. Pretty quiet around here so I figured I'd make a post. I just ordered a 5.0 on wall setup from axiom. I got the M22s, VP150 and QS8 surrounds that will be ran by my H/K AVR 347. My SVS PB12 NSD/2 will continue bass duty.

I have been using a JBL Venue setup with stage towers, voice venter and rear balconys. It was pretty good for the low budjet price. Recently we purchased some new furniture and a 63" samsung C7000 plasma that will be mounted on the wall. we are going with a new arrangement due to the new, larger sectional. So I want everything off the floor hence my on wall purchase. I am hoping that these axioms will put my old JBLs to shame in SQ and imaging. I know the M22s will not produce the bass that my jbl towers did, but my sub will pick up the slack I think.

So what do you all think... will this new setup blow the old one out of the water? I hope so. But I didn't really have any complaints with the jbls, except the center was lacking with its plastic housing. Sounded like it couldn't keep up with the rest of the speakers.

Also, I have seen some posts regarding Axioms rescent QC issues. I am crossing my fingers hoping I am not a victom. I came accross that info after placing my order and a got a little discouraged, but oh well. We shall see.

It's possible you'll see improvement. My Axiom M22s/VP150/QS8s were a step up from my JBLs, but I didn't have the same JBLs as you. Let us know how it comes out.

Does anyone have any reviews of the "On Wall" speakers from Axiom? I currently have Polk Monitor 50's and 20's in my small bedroom and was looking for something a little more streamlined with an upgrade in sound from what I have now. I would like to switch from floor standing to decent bookshelf fronts and back. The Axioms have nice sized on wall's but I don't know if the design is going to affect the sound a lot. If so I'll probably just go with normal bookshelves with nice looking stands.

My on wall setup just shipped out yesterday. I will let you know what I think when I get them hooked. I kind of had the same thoughts to you as for the "on walls" performance. My research basically told me that mids and highs are similar but the on walls lack a little in the lows when compared to the bookshelves. In my case, my SVS will just pick up the slack. My main goal was to get a wall mounted speaker setup to get rid of my towers.

Exactly what I'm looking to do. Please let me know what you think of the speakers compared to your towers after you hook everything up. Also do you already have the room wired behind the walls?

Will do! I have heard many good things about axiom so I think I will be plenty satisfied with them. These are some of the best looking wall mountable speakers I could find in my price range. I am running the speaker wire this week (through the attic and down the walls to a media closet).

I am also wall mounting a Samsung 63" c7000 plasma in a few weeks. The goal is to have not a single wire/cord showing and have no components of my HT on the floor except the sub of course, which will be hidden in the corner behind my sectional sofa. Everything will be ran to a media closet that I am working on right now. Harmony 900 rf remote is on order as well. Can't wait till its all said and done. I just want to sit down and watch a movie already...lol. On top of that I am putting in hardwood floors after the ht is setup.

Only Partial Speakers came yesterday - Still waiting for 3 more M22's surrounds.

But Tested the M60 Fronts - Out of the Box without any calibration. With Pioneer 1120, M60 Fronts + VP150 CC + Polk RM85 Surrounds.

For music - Speaker sounded very satisfactory without any calibration. For Movies, I need to check again. Dark Night movie sucked big time. Too much sound came from Center Channel. So I have to calibrate it before complaining too much.

Calibration Testing will be next week.



Also checked the M22 inside the columns - removed the Banana plug to gain lil more space.




I am hoping that I will like the Speakers after I hook it up with Onkyo 3007 and Play Dark Night & Kill Bill Movie.

You definitely need to calibrate as the VP150 is 6ohm and the M60s are 8ohm, there would be about a 2db difference(VP150 louder) if the speaker trim levels are equal, which is noticeable.

Did you get your on wall system yet? I'm tossed up between the paradigm cinema 330's and the axiom M22. I've heard the paradigms at a local shop and they're pretty nice. On price point I think the paradigms might be slightly cheaper.

Yes, I did get them. I currently have them wired and mounted but unfortunately the rest of my system is not complete yet. Still waiting on some cables, wiring, remote and the TV. I was only able to listen to some FM stereo to confirm that they work properly. I haven't done any calibrating what so ever, but I think I am going to be quite happy with them from what I heard so far. Even listening to crappy FM radio they sounded pretty impressive. I am dieing to finish everything up, calibrate the system, watch a movie and listen to some quality material. I am hoping to have it finished up this weekend as long as I receive the rest of my shipments.

The packaging was great and the speakers are flawless. Grade A stuff here. It was a delight to mount everything as well. I had no issues and I love the mounting design.

Sorry I can't be much help here and give you a conclusive opinion. I have not heard the Paradigms, but I know they offer some quality stuff.

Here is a cell pic of them mounted. Afterwards I was wanting the mains to be lower, but to late I guess..lol.

Hi, I'm looking at the VP100 and M2 (or VP150-onwall and M3-inwall) for LCR, but I need to do in ceilings for sides/backs.

Does anyone else have the same config? What did you use for ceiling?

My other opiton is to do Boston Acoustics for all.

Thanks, Brad

Same boat as you. I'm building a bedroom system and my only options for surrounds are in-ceiling. I found some Mirage Omnicans on the 'bay for that. I'm going with Axiom M22's and VP150 for the front.

Speakercraft has some interesting in-ceiling speakers as well.

I debated awhile between their in-wall, in/on-wall, and on-wall before Alan @ Axiom told me that the full bookshelves sound best and why don't I use a bracket to mount them to the wall.

Waiting for their arrival and interested to found out how the in-ceiling stuff works out.

Cary