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Anyone concerned about Uncharted not supporting 1080 upscaling

post #1 of 51
Thread Starter 
There is a live blog with one of the Devs, post here http://blog.us.playstation.com/2007/...date/#comments
to let them know your concerns and hopefully we will get out answer
post #2 of 51
nope, not concerned at all....

post #3 of 51
Thanks for the heads up, just made a post there. I saw another question or two regarding the issue so hopefully we'll get this figured out soon.
post #4 of 51
Let just see it this way. People with HD capable TV is about 15% of the market. Atleast
80% of those has a native resolution of 720p and 1080i with 720p being dominant. So there
isn't really a impact on the consumers but us enthusiast.
post #5 of 51
concerns me, I only have 1080i on my display.
post #6 of 51
No, I have a 1080p TV.
post #7 of 51
Nope. I am 720p, 1080i, and 1080p capable. My wife insisted that I got the HD I wanted!
post #8 of 51
There was some hope that this would only affect a few early games but unfortunately it appears to be an ongoing shortcoming of the PS3
post #9 of 51
I am a 1080i tv and thats the sole reason I buy no games for the ps3..they are all mostly in 720 format which means it drops to 480 and looks crummy. I bought it for a blu ray and thats all I will use it for til they can uspcale 720 games
post #10 of 51
I promise you...

720p still looks great!!!
post #11 of 51
If you can display it...
post #12 of 51
just out of curiosity,

For those who only have TV's that support a 1080i signal... what the heck were you thinking when purchasing it?
post #13 of 51
I purchased it knowing it didn't display or upscale 720p images, but it has never been an issue until now because every HD device I've used scales to the desired resolution. My cable box, HD-A1, and xbox 360 are all capable of outputting either 720p or 1080i as needed. I've never had an issue with a device not supporting 1080i output until the ps3. I knew the of the issues with the ps3, but was under the impression that many developers were starting to take it into consideration, and hoping that eventually sony would decide to do what every other HD device I have, or have used does, and scale the output the the desired resolution.
post #14 of 51
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Originally Posted by TyrantII View Post

just out of curiosity,

For those who only have TV's that support a 1080i signal... what the heck were you thinking when purchasing it?

SERIOUSLY.
post #15 of 51
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by TyrantII View Post

just out of curiosity,

For those who only have TV's that support a 1080i signal... what the heck were you thinking when purchasing it?

That I want the HDTV that performs best in Picture Quality and Color Reproduction, black levels, and at 1080 no less, in other words I was joining CLUB 1080: http://www.club1080.com/ for the highest level of detail I could get
post #16 of 51
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Originally Posted by TyrantII View Post

just out of curiosity,

For those who only have TV's that support a 1080i signal... what the heck were you thinking when purchasing it?

Unfortunately for some people who purchased new TV's during the last few months of 2001 and early 2002 a majority of the HD compatible non-widescreen's that were around were only 480i/p and 1080i. There really wasn't much of a choice at the time for a decent TV at the time. My parents unfortunately fall into that group and as HD TV was barely a vision in my local cable providers eyes at the time, a widescreen TV was a lesser option do to loss of screen space to formatting properly, and price. Pretty much anyone who bought an HD tv during that period from most BBY's or CC's are feeling the effects of this.
post #17 of 51
In 2002, I was thinking what a great deal it was on the TV. And I figured that going foward, all HD devices would support all HD signals. And that pretty much holds true, as every HD device I own can display/scale to 1080i. I would have never thought that an "advanced" piece of tech like the PS3 couldn't do what my 50 dollar cable box, HD-A2, and Xbox 360 can.
post #18 of 51
Thread Starter 
I got my top rated widescreen HD CRT the year it was made 2005, so not that long ago these tvs were still being made, by Sony even
post #19 of 51
I also purchased my set in 2005. It is not a top of the line set(panasonic 26" widescreen crt) but the picture quality is very nice, especially for the $300 I paid. I would like to upgrade my set in the future, but I currently don't have the funds to do it(and my receiver needs replacing before my tv).

I don't think it's unreasonable however to expect sony's device to do what almost all HD devices(that I know of, that is) do and upscale the content to that it maximizes compatibility, especially with many of the very nice Sony CRT sets that don't support 720p.
post #20 of 51
I just asked because all I heard when researching tv's in that time period was stay the hell away from 480i/p and 1080i inputs.

I really feel you guys out, but was wondering if you got drawn in by good deals, or con-artists.

I made sure to wait till prices came down on the 1080p and backwards TV's, figuring there'd be issues like this in the future.

You guys should start writing some letters to the editors of gaming mags and to the dev's of games you like. Not sure if it's a tech thing keeping scaling back, or a lack of knowledge thing {will the ps3 only render in 1080i?}

I'd suggest getting a group together and organize a hand written letter campaign and send letters over one week to people in the biz, handwritten stuff usually moves people more now adays because everyone just uses email these days.
post #21 of 51
Thats a good idea tyrant,I may have to give that a shot. The media is always good at putting pressure on companies, as much as I may despise them at times.

I was mostly drawn by the good deal, I'm just glad I knew exactly what I was getting into, as I did with the ps3. The set had some nasty overscan, and a couple geometry issues, but nothing some test patterns, patience, and service menu access couldn't fix. I'm quite satisfied with my TV, and very happy with the ps3, I just wish my game selection wasn't so limited.

And I will say, there are some games that don't look too bad in 480p, like heavenly sword, and folklore. They would look better if I could play them in HD, but in the case of folklore I'm willing to compromise for an enjoyable play experience.
post #22 of 51
Not concerned, I just saved 60 bucks. If devs are too lazy to code for upscaling, I will spend my money elsewhere.

Sony really needs to put the requirement that 720 games upscale to 1080. Until then, the PS3 is not competitive.
post #23 of 51
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Originally Posted by slcsnkman View Post

I am a 1080i tv and thats the sole reason I buy no games for the ps3..they are all mostly in 720 format which means it drops to 480 and looks crummy. I bought it for a blu ray and thats all I will use it for til they can uspcale 720 games

I think most new games upscales now (besides the EA games) but Warhawk upscales, MLB the Show upscales.....I don't know if Heavenly Sword does, but since Uncharted is a SCEA(American) game, I believe it will....

Heavenly Sword is an euro game as was Motorstorm and F1... in Europe they don't have the 1080i/480p problem because I believe it is mandatory that every HDTV supports 720p.....

you should check out Warhawk, if you haven't already....
post #24 of 51
Heavenly Sword does not upscale. And while EA sports games don't upscale, some other games published by EA do, such as NBA Street and Skate, which I believe are both developed by different teams. Lets just hope advice gets passed around through EA's dev teams so they address the 1080i issue, I know I played APF 2k8 this year instead of madden partly because of this issue(and because NFL 2k5 was the last football game I really loved to play).

A few other 1080i titles worth checking out would be Ninja Gaiden Sigma, and Warhawk as mentioned above.
post #25 of 51
For the first few months I owned the ps3, I was playing on a SD CRT display. To be honest, 480p doesn't look that bad with a lot of the ps3 games. Obviously not as good as HD resolution, but I'd rather play a good game in 480p than not at all.
post #26 of 51
BTW the dev just posted this, so you guys are lucky.

Hey guys, I appreciate all of these comments. And in fact, you have just helped us out immensely. I wasn’t fully aware of how important it was for us to support 1080i. Up until earlier today we were only supporting 720p (and SD of course) but reading through these comments, it was brought to my attention the number of people who had HDTV’s but would not be able to experience Uncharted in high-def. So we immediately went to work and I’m pleased to announce here, for the first time, that we have now implemented 1080 support! Thanks for pointing this out to us, so now even more people will get to enjoy Uncharted the way it was meant to be… in glorious high definition!
post #27 of 51
Hell yes! Thanks for the update joe, I just looked through the blog but didn't see that. I'm super pumped for this game now.

And I agree with you joe, that some games don't look bad at all in 480p(though some really do) but I will say they look a little worse when you pop it in after playing a game in 1080.

And thanks to coney as well for making the thread to help get a few more posts on the blog about the issue!
post #28 of 51
Well 720p will be fine for me now (768 pio plasma); but it's good to see these kind of issues addressed.
post #29 of 51
Ask and ye shall receive. Thats cool.
post #30 of 51
It's also refreshing to see those who don't have the issue in support of it as well here on AVS. Other forums I have been on are very hostile towards the issue, and posters refuse to think about the issue, or respond with more than "buy a new tv".
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