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post #2431 of 2680
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Originally Posted by ericpizzapie View Post

Where would one put Elton John 60 Years On? pcm 5.1
I love the audio from this show. Especially "Funeral for a Friend" during the encore.

Where would you put it? Your vote counts just as much as any of us

I watched the first half of this last week (could not get into the show enough to watch all of it) and I can see people voting this into reference. I would go tier 0 myself as I though it was VERY good, but a few little mixing issues would keep it just out of reference for me. Overall though, I thought it sounded fantastic and strong tier 0 material (IMO).

On a side note, I thought the PQ was reference all the way...WOW.
post #2432 of 2680
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Originally Posted by lgans316 View Post

QUESTION: Does The Matrix really belong to reference tier ? I thought it sounded weak than many of the titles placed in Tier-0. I still don't own an HD capable AVR but the Matrix definitely doesn't sound as good as Tier-0 titles like Man on Fire, POTC, Cast Away etc.

It does belong there. It sounds superior to those you just listed. Personally I think it's perfect. In any category you want to use to evaluate it, it pretty much excels at. Everything is balanced and integrated just right. Plus it has those awesome sounds from the hovercraft.

Do you think that it sounded tiny and lacked force? Because I didn't get any of that at all with the TrueHD.
post #2433 of 2680
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Originally Posted by Toe View Post

Where would you put it? Your vote counts just as much as any of us

I watched the first half of this last week (could not get into the show enough to watch all of it) and I can see people voting this into reference. I would go tier 0 myself as I though it was VERY good, but a few little mixing issues would keep it just out of reference for me. Overall though, I thought it sounded fantastic and strong tier 0 material (IMO).

On a side note, I thought the PQ was reference all the way...WOW.

Sound is great except for the mix burying some of the instruments. I felt the cellist, backgrounds and drums were too far back in the mix. Outside of that it's reference!!

I'd say Tier 0.
post #2434 of 2680
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Originally Posted by davcole View Post

Sound is great except for the mix buring some of the instruments. I felt the cellist, backgrounds and drums were too far back in the mix. Outside of that it's reference!!

I'd say Tier 0.

Agreed. I remember hearing similar type things with this mix, but great otherwise.
post #2435 of 2680
I thought deathrace and eagle eye should be tier 0 and Bangkok dangerous at tier 1.
post #2436 of 2680
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Originally Posted by lgans316 View Post

QUESTION: Does The Matrix really belong to reference tier ? I thought it sounded weak than many of the titles placed in Tier-0. I still don't own an HD capable AVR but the Matrix definitely doesn't sound as good as Tier-0 titles like Man on Fire, POTC, Cast Away etc.


No, I don't think of the Matrix as reference either, It's a strong contender for Tier 0 however IMO.
post #2437 of 2680
I'd put the Elton disc in the reference category. One thing that I feel is spot on is the vocals. The mix feels true to what the concert experience was imo. Watched Dave Matthew/Tim Reynolds last night and was utterly blown away at the clarity of that one. Not a fan of Dave @ all and it kept me intrigued just by the AQ
post #2438 of 2680
Max Payne: DTS MA 5.1: tier Reference

This is possibly the most intense BD track I have heard to date. It is simply off the charts. Everything about it is reference. Surrounds, LFE, dialog, explosions and gunfire. I was getting worried the police may show up at my house and that is no joke. I was jumpy and shaking at times, what an adrenalin rush. You can feel things go around you, through you, and across the listening area as it is so enveloping. It scared me. It has to be heard and that is all I will say for now.
post #2439 of 2680
Guess I need to add it to the Que how was the movie?
post #2440 of 2680
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Originally Posted by Hughmc View Post

Max Payne: DTS MA 5.1: tier Reference

This is possibly the most intense BD track I have heard to date. It is simply off the charts. Everything about it is reference. Surrounds, LFE, dialog, explosions and gunfire. I was getting worried the police may show up at my house and that is no joke. I was jumpy and shaking at times, what an adrenalin rush. You can feel things go around you, through you, and across the listening area as it is so enveloping. It scared me. It has to be heard and that is all I will say for now.


Awesome! Hope I can get lucky and find a rental of this in the next few days.

Anybody seen Saw 5 yet? I have that for tonight.
post #2441 of 2680
Righteous Kill (Dolby THD) Tier 2

Dialog, dialog, dialog, reproduction, why is this come back to haunt on some films these days? Once again lots of pops[clipping] and sibilance ruin this mix to be in a higher level. Surround coverage was absent on many scenes, yet on some it was rather prominent ,like the opening credit sequence. Bass was strong on some places mostly from the score, but gunshots lacked kick. Fidelity and balance was all over the place, mostly at the expense of the dialog.
post #2442 of 2680
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Originally Posted by Toe View Post

Awesome! Hope I can get lucky and find a rental of this in the next few days.

Anybody seen Saw 5 yet? I have that for tonight.

I am going to try and get Saw 5 tonight. Another 7.1 track.
post #2443 of 2680
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Originally Posted by thehun View Post

Righteous Kill (Dolby THD) Tier 2

Dialog, dialog, dialog, reproduction, why is this come back to haunt on some films these days? Once again lots of pops[clipping] and sibilance ruin this mix to be in a higher level. Surround coverage was absent on many scenes, yet on some it was rather prominent ,like the opening credit sequence. Bass was strong on some places mostly from the score, but gunshots lacked kick. Fidelity and balance was all over the place, mostly at the expense of the dialog.

Righteous Kill (TrueHD) -Tier 3
I agree with your comments. Based on how I personally voted to place other discs I would have to put this one in Tier 3.

My Best Friend's Girl (DTS-MA 7.1) - Tier 3
This was a real waste of lossless audio especially being 7.1. Sound was directed from the front with little use of surrounds. LFE was appropriate for the movie. Dialogue was clear throughout. Not much to say about it.

Swing Vote (DTS-MA 5.1) - Tier 3
Another waste of lossless audio. Same comments as for My Best Friend's Girl.
post #2444 of 2680
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Originally Posted by Hughmc View Post

Max Payne: DTS MA 5.1: tier Reference

This is possibly the most intense BD track I have heard to date. It is simply off the charts. Everything about it is reference. Surrounds, LFE, dialog, explosions and gunfire. I was getting worried the police may show up at my house and that is no joke. I was jumpy and shaking at times, what an adrenalin rush. You can feel things go around you, through you, and across the listening area as it is so enveloping. It scared me. It has to be heard and that is all I will say for now.

Definitely, watched it today and was very impressed. Tier Reference vote from me as well.
post #2445 of 2680
81st Annual Oscar Nominations for Sound:

ACHIEVEMENT IN SOUND EDITING
"The Dark Knight" (Warner Bros.) Richard King REFERENCE
"Iron Man" (Paramount and Marvel Entertainment) Frank Eulner and Christopher Boyes TIER 0
"Slumdog Millionaire" (Fox Searchlight) Tom Sayers
"WALL-E" (Walt Disney) Ben Burtt and Matthew Wood TIER 1
"Wanted" (Universal) Wylie Stateman TIER 0

ACHIEVEMENT IN SOUND MIXING
"The Curious Case of Benjamin Button" (Paramount and Warner Bros.) David Parker, Michael Semanick, Ren Klyce and Mark Weingarten
"The Dark Knight" (Warner Bros.) Lora Hirschberg, Gary Rizzo and Ed Novick REFERENCE
"Slumdog Millionaire" (Fox Searchlight) Ian Tapp, Richard Pryke and Resul Pookutty
"WALL-E" (Walt Disney) Tom Myers, Michael Semanick and Ben Burtt TIER 1
"Wanted" (Universal) Chris Jenkins, Frank A. Montaño and Petr Forejt TIER 0
post #2446 of 2680
Ben Button? It was all score and dialog. They did do an exceptional job at using silence and sound to help the story though.

TDK got the shaft. So did Aronofsky. Hopefully Crash can get another Oscar this year.

Can't believe Cloverfield didn't get a nomination
post #2447 of 2680
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Originally Posted by shadowrage View Post

Ben Button? It was all score and dialog. They did do an exceptional job at using silence and sound to help the story though.

Which is why they got a nom... we have a saying... "Loud is easy, quiet is what is hard."

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TDK got the shaft. So did Aronofsky. Hopefully Crash can get another Oscar this year.

Can't believe Cloverfield didn't get a nomination

Hey, careful.. I mixed "Crash."

The "Cloverfield" team didn't "shop" the track.. they picked another one of their films...
post #2448 of 2680
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Originally Posted by FilmMixer View Post

Which is why they got a nom... we have a saying... "Loud is easy, quiet is what is hard."



Hey, careful.. I mixed "Crash."

The "Cloverfield" team didn't "shop" the track.. they picked another one of their films...

I was referring to Crash's best picture Oscar. The Sound was great..
Oh they submitted something else? What was it?
post #2449 of 2680
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Originally Posted by Hughmc View Post

Max Payne: DTS MA 5.1: tier Reference

This is possibly the most intense BD track I have heard to date. It is simply off the charts. Everything about it is reference. Surrounds, LFE, dialog, explosions and gunfire. I was getting worried the police may show up at my house and that is no joke. I was jumpy and shaking at times, what an adrenalin rush. You can feel things go around you, through you, and across the listening area as it is so enveloping. It scared me. It has to be heard and that is all I will say for now.

I watched it last night, and the sound was definitely pretty damn impressive!

Definitely Tier 0 minimum if not Reference!
post #2450 of 2680
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Originally Posted by shadowrage View Post

I was referring to Crash's best picture Oscar. The Sound was great..
Oh they submitted something else? What was it?

There's no official submission.. it's a long story.. but "Defiance" was the one making the rounds, which I heard sounded great.
post #2451 of 2680
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Originally Posted by DevilDog151 View Post

Definitely, watched it today and was very impressed. Tier Reference vote from me as well.

Another vote from me also for this track as Tier Reference.. this is probably one of the best tracks i have ever heard.
post #2452 of 2680
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Originally Posted by Hughmc View Post

Max Payne: DTS MA 5.1: tier Reference

This is possibly the most intense BD track I have heard to date. It is simply off the charts. Everything about it is reference. Surrounds, LFE, dialog, explosions and gunfire. I was getting worried the police may show up at my house and that is no joke. I was jumpy and shaking at times, what an adrenalin rush. You can feel things go around you, through you, and across the listening area as it is so enveloping. It scared me. It has to be heard and that is all I will say for now.

I just finished watching Max Payne and it was Tier 0 for the entire movie but, I will give it reference for the action scenes toward the end of the movie. The bass in the movie was ridiculous. The scene where the guy was shot by the swat team reminded me of the Transformer leap over the girl. The bass was very similar IMO.
post #2453 of 2680
Dam, everybody is praising the audio for Max Payne and I'd love to hear it but the movie is so terrible that there is not way I can watch it again
post #2454 of 2680
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Originally Posted by FilmMixer View Post

81st Annual Oscar Nominations for Sound:

ACHIEVEMENT IN SOUND EDITING
"The Dark Knight" (Warner Bros.) Richard King REFERENCE
"Iron Man" (Paramount and Marvel Entertainment) Frank Eulner and Christopher Boyes TIER 0
"Slumdog Millionaire" (Fox Searchlight) Tom Sayers
"WALL-E" (Walt Disney) Ben Burtt and Matthew Wood TIER 1
"Wanted" (Universal) Wylie Stateman TIER 0

ACHIEVEMENT IN SOUND MIXING
"The Curious Case of Benjamin Button" (Paramount and Warner Bros.) David Parker, Michael Semanick, Ren Klyce and Mark Weingarten
"The Dark Knight" (Warner Bros.) Lora Hirschberg, Gary Rizzo and Ed Novick REFERENCE
"Slumdog Millionaire" (Fox Searchlight) Ian Tapp, Richard Pryke and Resul Pookutty
"WALL-E" (Walt Disney) Tom Myers, Michael Semanick and Ben Burtt TIER 1
"Wanted" (Universal) Chris Jenkins, Frank A. Montaño and Petr Forejt TIER 0

I mentioned in the PQ tier thread Wall E. should be nominated for sound and Animation and now it seems it is on track and could win.
post #2455 of 2680
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Originally Posted by rveras View Post

Dam, everybody is praising the audio for Max Payne and I'd love to hear it but the movie is so terrible that there is not way I can watch it again

The movie was indeed quite bad.
post #2456 of 2680
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Originally Posted by FilmMixer View Post

81st Annual Oscar Nominations for Sound:

ACHIEVEMENT IN SOUND EDITING
"The Dark Knight" (Warner Bros.) Richard King REFERENCE
"Iron Man" (Paramount and Marvel Entertainment) Frank Eulner and Christopher Boyes TIER 0
"Slumdog Millionaire" (Fox Searchlight) Tom Sayers
"WALL-E" (Walt Disney) Ben Burtt and Matthew Wood TIER 1
"Wanted" (Universal) Wylie Stateman TIER 0

ACHIEVEMENT IN SOUND MIXING
"The Curious Case of Benjamin Button" (Paramount and Warner Bros.) David Parker, Michael Semanick, Ren Klyce and Mark Weingarten
"The Dark Knight" (Warner Bros.) Lora Hirschberg, Gary Rizzo and Ed Novick REFERENCE
"Slumdog Millionaire" (Fox Searchlight) Ian Tapp, Richard Pryke and Resul Pookutty
"WALL-E" (Walt Disney) Tom Myers, Michael Semanick and Ben Burtt TIER 1
"Wanted" (Universal) Chris Jenkins, Frank A. Montaño and Petr Forejt TIER 0

Slumdog Millionare in both category? The last Danny Boyle movie Sunshine had a very good sound but it was Sci-fi/horror flick that makes good sound "mandatory". I was told this is more akin to Trainspotting a dark comedy we shall see/hear.
post #2457 of 2680
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Originally Posted by thehun View Post

Slumdog Millionare in both category? The last Danny Boyle movie Sunshine had a very good sound but it was Sci-fi/horror flick that makes good sound "mandatory". I was told this is more akin to Trainspotting a dark comedy we shall see/hear.

I watched it a couple of weeks ago.. even on my RPTV (didn't fire up the theater that day) the sound was very good... the nom didn't surprise me at all.

I'm going to try and watch "Benjamin Button" tonight.. Fincher's sound crew is pretty solid, so I think I know what to expect.
post #2458 of 2680
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Originally Posted by rveras View Post

Dam, everybody is praising the audio for Max Payne and I'd love to hear it but the movie is so terrible that there is not way I can watch it again

I was listening with Dynamic EQ engaged on my Denon@ -15 db. for most DTS MA tracks and maybe a bit louder for Tru HD. As of the last couple of months I have found myself turning up the volume when I watch BD's to -13 or -14 db. With this DTS MA track on Max Payne I actually turned the volume down as it was so intense and loud. I am going to watch it again at an earlier time just to hear the track again really cranked.
post #2459 of 2680
Max Payne - Reference.

I would put the audio for this disc at Band of Brothers or better...and I love the audio on Band of Brothers.
post #2460 of 2680
The Sound Editing noms are perfect. No qualms from me there. I don't agree with WALL*E's Sound Mixing nomination, though. Wish the Defiance team submitted their Cloverfield work (which probably would have gotten one for Editing as well).

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Originally Posted by FilmMixer View Post

I watched it a couple of weeks ago.. even on my RPTV (didn't fire up the theater that day) the sound was very good... the nom didn't surprise me at all.

I'm going to try and watch "Benjamin Button" tonight.. Fincher's sound crew is pretty solid, so I think I know what to expect.

Benjamin Button has a beautiful track in terms of design, so editing nom is justified. The mixing nom is appropriate too; the quiet parts never felt stagnant, and the loud parts are well-done (love the submarine part).
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