i Got Spiderman The Trilogy Today

all of them have 24bit DolbyTrueHD, only on first one from 16bit source, other two from 24bit source...

and PCM on 3rd one is only 16bit !! DolbyTrueHD is 24bit !!

and on SONY discs there is no dialnorm, so you have nice 24bit tracks on all 3 movies

Marek

No PCM on the first 2 disc SUCKS regardless of 24 bits or 16 bits.

"SUCKS"?

um...

yeah. Shunning a TruHD track over a PCM track whilst in the same sentence not caring if it's 16 or 24 bits, might hurt some brains on this board.

Isn't Dolby TrueHD every bit as good as PCM? (both lossless formats)

Doesn't your player just decode trueHD to PCM?

Can I trust someone who capitalizes every word in every post?

Yes it is. Dolby THD is a lossless compressed audio stream that, theoretically, sounds just as good as a lossless uncompressed stream like PCM, but the bit depth is important. With Dolby THD, it saves space on the disc which directly maps to a lower bitrate for reading the audio track.

Think of it similar to having a large file on your computer that is 1GB. If you want to save space, you can compress it with a lossless compression program (zip, or many others) and maybe it will be 0.2GB in size. Later when you need it, you uncompress it back to its original 1GB. With a lossless compression/decompression algorithm, you have a bit-for-bit exact reproduction of the original (D-THD, DTS-HDMA). With a lossy compression/decompression algorithm, you have something kinda close to the original (DD, DD+, core DTS).

For the PS3 to output D-THD, make sure your output settings are for "PCM" and not "Bitstream". I think that if it is set to "bitstream", then a D-THD track comes out as DD.

Or doesn't use any punctuation marks?

So many comparisons of soundtrack quality have not mentioned what the sampling rate of the master track was. For me, the question is: Is the master soundtrack 24 bit or is the TrueHD sampling 24 bit? If different resolution masters are used, then the TrueHD (of a 24 bit master) could sound even better than a 16 bit PCM track. As much as I've read here, I haven't found the answer for many movies. The posts above state the resolutions of the Spiderman masters, but this has not always been the case.

Anyone know where to find this info?

Lee

Does anyone know where I can import this from? (dvdcrave is sold out. )

I wish all blu ray discs had a pcm track. I can't afford to go out and buy an hdmi pre amp right now for my system. And if I was goign to buy something it would be on my video end of the chain like a 1080P PJ. So I am stuck sending 5.1 inputs to my reciever on both my hda1 and my bdp1000.

Well with a BD-P1000 you still wouldn't be able to get TrueHD because it can't pass it through HDMI. You would be better off buying a blu-ray player that decodes TrueHD to analog 5.1.

Don"t your players decode TrueHD to pcm?

"For the PS3 to output D-THD, make sure your output settings are for "PCM" and not "Bitstream". I think that if it is set to "bitstream", then a D-THD track comes out as DD"

It seems that I have read on other posts that the TrueHD from the ps3 needs bitstream to be enabled. If this is wrong hopefull someone will let me know.
thanks,
John

No, if you set it to bitstream, PS3 will send out the "hidden" Dolby Digital track. You need to set it as PCM, so it will decode the TrueHD track and send that out as PCM.

this part is correct.


this part is wrong.

That's very bad habit that you should unlearn as soon as possible.

What settings should I have my PS3 set on to get the best sound? I currently have it set for PCM & automatic, but I have read in other posts to set it Manual. Which one is correct? I was under the impression from another post that if it was set to automatic that it would grab the 1st codec avail & not necessarily the best one? Any suggestions?

I was wondering what retail source (online or brick & mortar) is seling the Spider-man trilogy so far advance of street date?

depends on how you have it hooked up to the receiver. if via hdmi, go with pcm, if optical go bitstream.

be better off to just leave the shift key alone, all smalls is okay, capitalizing every first letter is a no-no.