Olevia 65 inch 1080p lcd - Page 49

Originally Posted by essel

I just got the olevia 265T FHD LCD tv on woot also. I to have the issue with the TV freezing with nothing appearing on the display screen every time I turn the TV off (in standby mode). I then have to shut the TV off using the main power switch on the back and turn it back on. I have checked the firmware ( i have the latest and greatest). I've seen similar issues with other olevia 747i sets discussed on this forum. Can anyone give me some advise.
I have two HDMI inputs (one from a FIOS DVR) and a SONY BR player connected. Any Suggestions ??
thanks

Originally Posted by rrhomes

The Neutral in the service menu will only affect the ATI Tuners on HDTV all other inputs are 6500 then use a calibration disc to fine tune it from there, my PS3 looks fantastic after I use a disc on it. I still haven't figures how the service menu settings there are applied to each input but if they are applied across the board then its very likely worth the money to have a pro calibrate the O65 to D65 because the TV is very capable of delivering a stunning picture once calibrated.


My GetGray disc settings are:

PS3 via HDMI RGB: from 0(Zero): Brightness + 41 clicks, Contrast -38 clicks from being full 100%, color + 48 clicks from 0(Zero), tint + 53 clicks from 0(Zero). This is from my PS3 set to RGB.

PS3 set to Y Pb/Cb Pr/Cr is brightness set to + 27 clicks from 0. and Contrast is - 26 clicks down from 100%. Color and Tint unchanged from the above RGB setting.

RGB and Y Pb/Cb Pr/Cr are different gamma levels from the PC and video in the end once calibrated they look identical. I (THINK) the ATI tuners are putting out RGB because the Y Pb/Cb Pr/Cr settings looks a tad to dim while using the tuners. The hardware you use also affects the settings so it nothing to bank on but a place to start if you don't have a disk of any kind. Most DVD players will use the Y Pb/Cb Pr/Cr. The PS3 automatically defaults to this with my O65 but I manually changed it to RGB because the PS3 outputs GAMES in RGB and if you using the Y Pb/Cb Pr/Cr then the games will be darker than should be( I was having to change the brightness and contrast every time I played a game) because the PS3 Video default is Y Pb/Cb Pr/Cr on the O65, which I had calibrated for but then the PS3 switched to RGB for games and the brightness wasn't high enough. In other words if you have a DVD player and no PS3 try the Y Pb/Cb Pr/Cr settings first.

If I find out the service menu color settings applies across the board to the selected resolutions listed in it I may spend $400 to have a pro come out and tune to perfection. If anyone else does this be sure to wright down your numbers in the Service menu because sometimes I think it doesn't save them, Like my 16:9 setting on the ATI tuners goes back to 4:3 sometime with out me changing it. Putting the ATI tuners in Neutral may help reduce the yellow some have seen on HDTV, also set the temp to 6500.

I have turned off cinemotion because I thought it might be causing ghosting but I think it hasn't helped much so I'll prob turn it back on. The only way this TV could get less ghosting is if Olevia released some firmware where ATI or Sharp Overdrives the panel in the ON/Off states because the ghosting is like it isn't being overdriven at all, its more like a 25MS panel. Overdriving is common practice with LCD makers and if this panel is over driven I'd be shocked because of how slow it is. IMO there is the slightest of hope that the ghosting can be improved if we all told Olevia to see what sharp can give them data wise that may over drive the panel, again I guarantee THIS PANEL is not being over driven it looks and acts just like LCD of old before they learned to overdrive trick to speed up response time. Also I noticed in the service menu a thing called HDMI CLK and from my research it's a clock speed mhz adjustment and we may get lucky there if it could be speed up to the panels, although theres a 99% shot it has nothing to do with it, I think its the Speed of the HDMI port. DON"T CHANGE IT YOUR TV MAY NOT WORK untill a pro comes on here and tells us what it is. Maybe someone can post in the Calibration section of AVS as I'm sure the ISF Certified calibrators know what its for.

But to be truthful I think somewhere Sharp or somebody can adjust this panel to be overdriven harder, it looks to me like something thats been left out but should have been done. The O65 is advertised at what 12MS or 8MS either way it acts like one of those two panels that isn't being over driven. We see how they are with simple stuff like remotes with no direct sources so it wouldn't surprise me if the panels are capable of being overdriven(meant to be) but just aren't, they damn sure act like it. Of course all of this is me speculating like I'd be dead in the morning, but the TV is ridiculously slow for a LCD, and since they advertised it as reasonably fast, something is not right. Some one needs to talk to a deep level tech and tell them the panel most likely is not getting the overdrive benefits, they may look into it since they know the problem is real and there but they have been stump or think theres nothing to do, If a firmware could tell the panel to drive harder to the on/off states it would definitely help. If it is being over driven (99% of LCD's are+) and its this slow then its a really really really really slow panel. I'd bet a $100 that its meant to be overdriven but its not being, some failure of some programmer somewhere who went to lunch, like the remote desiner who thought individual source buttons where to much to ask. . That sends me to TacoBell for a tostada.

I'd bet if 10-20 of us stayed on them and told them to contact Sharp to see if it can be overdriven they would at least inquire with Sharp about the issue and may even get a fix, but we got to point them to it and if they think the panel may be able to be speed up then they will try because that will drastically reduce ghosting and end calls to them about it and satisfies a lot of customers, the panel on all of their other sizes are fine as far as speed. The question is can the panel be told to over drive through some clock increase through a firmware update provided by Olevia with data info from Sharp. Its probably right there ready to be used but is turned off.

Again I remind you I'm the biggest speculator on earth. If it is already being overdriven then the panel is like a LCD made in 1998 and we know these are 7-8 generation panels. I can't name any panel that isn't being overdriven. Theres a reason this panel is so slow, what is that reason?.

Originally Posted by ms1444

Hi,

I purchased this Olevia 65" LCD (Olevia 265T FHD) TV about a month ago from SC and after reading too many posting about this tv I was able to upgrade the firmware on it to the latest one. but I think I also read too much, because I learned how to get to the service menu, so I was trying to get a little more redish color to the picture and a little less blue, but I think I tweaked the setting a little bit and now the red color is a little too red and the yellow a little too yellow. so, I was wondering it you or anyone can tell me the original setting (numbers) on the VGA, 1080P ... and the rest of the OFFSET 1 and GAIN 1 on page 2 and the OFFSET 2 and GAIN 2 page 3 of the service menu or at least your settings, so I can try to set it backto see if I can get the original picture back. because I did not write them down before I changed them I figured the factory default setting will bring it back, wich of course it did not.

Can you please help? Thanks an advance.

Originally Posted by mml265

If you search this forum, someone took pictures of every page of their service menu and attached them to their post.

Page 1:
Overscan Adjustment = Normal (NOTE: This seems to be overridden by basic cropping settings)
Backlight Adjustment (Dark) = 56
Backlight Adjustment (Medium) = 74
Backlight Adjustment (Bright) = 89

Page 2:
VGA R Offset 1 = 154
VGA G Offset 1 = 142
VGA B Offset 1 = 144
VGA R Gain 1 = 89
VGA G Gain 1 = 89
VGA B Gain 1 = 90
1080p - YPbPr R Offset = 128
1080p - YPbPr G Offset = 128
1080p - YPbPr B Offset = 128
1080p - YPbPr R Gain = 128
1080p - YPbPr G Gain = 128
1080p - YPbPr B Gain = 128
720p - YPbPr R Offset = 128
720p - YPbPr G Offset = 128
720p - YPbPr B Offset = 128
720p - YPbPr R Gain = 86
720p - YPbPr G Gain = 69
720p - YPbPr B Gain = 89
480i - YPbPr R Offset = 128
480i - YPbPr G Offset = 128
480i - YPbPr B Offset = 128
480i - YPbPr R Gain = 96
480i - YPbPr G Gain = 76
480i - YPbPr B Gain = 96

Page 3:
VGA R Offset 1 = 138
VGA G Offset 1 = 141
VGA B Offset 1 = 132
VGA R Gain 1 = 92
VGA G Gain 1 = 93
VGA B Gain 1 = 96
1080p - YPbPr R Offset = 128
1080p - YPbPr G Offset = 128
1080p - YPbPr B Offset = 128
1080p - YPbPr R Gain = 128
1080p - YPbPr G Gain = 128
1080p - YPbPr B Gain = 128
720p - YPbPr R Offset = 128
720p - YPbPr G Offset = 128
720p - YPbPr B Offset = 128
720p - YPbPr R Gain = 89
720p - YPbPr G Gain = 73
720p - YPbPr B Gain = 93
480i - YPbPr R Offset = 128
480i - YPbPr G Offset = 128
480i - YPbPr B Offset = 128
480i - YPbPr R Gain = 99
480i - YPbPr G Gain = 79
480i - YPbPr B Gain = 99

Page 4:
Tuner 1 and 2
Brightness = 21
Contrast = 39
Saturation = 28
Hue = 25
Sharpness = 20
Backlight = 42
Aspect Ratio = 4x3
View Mode = Normal
Color Temperature = Neutral
CineMotion = ON
Noise Reduction = OFF
SERA = OFF

Page 5:
CNR Level = 7

Originally Posted by mml265

If you search this forum, someone took pictures of every page of their service menu and attached them to their post.

Originally Posted by storyid

I have the same problem as well, turn it on and probably 50% of the time, I can't change inputs, the Olevia screen comes on, then goes away and the TV is unresponsive. Sometimes turning it off fixes it (with the power button on the front, the remote never works), other times I have to turn off the switch on the side to cut power to the unit, wait a few minutes, and turn it back on (and then, sometimes it's fixed, sometimes I have to do it again, and again, and again...eventually it works).

What does everyone think, do others besides Stace and Solidbrass have this problem? I have a T11 and the firmware is current...has anyone called Olevia about this (is that even a worthwhile strategy at this stage of the game)?

If anyone has ideas, PM me or reply, thanks...really sad if this turns out to be "how it is" for this beautiful TV (got it as the September 22nd Woot!).

Originally Posted by ms1444

Thanks for your reply, Ive tried to look for those pictures, no luck, Do you by any chance have the link for this post or those pictures.

Thank you much.

Originally Posted by storyid

All, I have found the following with my Olevia...when you turn it on, if there is already a source sending signal to the TV on whatever input it was set to, it will be fine, no problem, every single time. If, however, whatever input you last used is NOT sending a signal, at least 50% of the time on my set, it will freeze. I can reproduce time and time again.

Can anyone else comment on this? For instance, if I have it on HDMI 1 and my PS3 is attached there, powered on, etc. it works, every single time. But if I have it on HDMI 1 and the PS3 is off, then at least half the time when I turn it on, it freezes, requiring to be powercycled again and again until it stops.

Clearly, for components that you have connected, that at least is a workaround (albeit a pretty crappy one), but the problem is, what about for all those other inputs you don't have connected? Since you have to cycle through the inputs, and the same thing happens when you are switching inputs, it really isn't a workable solution (at least on this model, some have a slightly different model where you can jump directly to a given input).

Unless, someone knows a way to switch directly from say VGA to HDMI 1 without having to cycle through every single input between them? Or from HDMI 1 to Tuner 1, etc.

Very interested to hear the feedback of others on this, particularly if their TVs do the same thing.

Originally Posted by rrhomes

Does anybody else here notice the choppy frame movements on pans or sweeps of the camera, when things a still it looks fabulous but when theres a lot of movement the tv seems like its doing about 15 frames a second. Very choppy and distracting. Now that I've noticed it its irking the crap out of me.

Originally Posted by storyid

All, I have found the following with my
Unless, someone knows a way to switch directly from say VGA to HDMI 1 without having to cycle through every single input between them? Or from HDMI 1 to Tuner 1, etc.

Originally Posted by rrhomes

Does anybody else here notice the choppy frame movements on pans or sweeps of the camera, when things a still it looks fabulous but when theres a lot of movement the tv seems like its doing about 15 frames a second. Very choppy and distracting. Now that I've noticed it its irking the crap out of me.

Originally Posted by juanabove

Hey Everybody....I was wondering if someone can help me figure something out and I apologize if this was already covered. I have a PS3 as a blue-ray player and, of course this 65 inch Olevia TV. I rented I Am Legend and Indiana Jones both on Blu-Ray and I'm wondering why both these titles still have the black bars above and below the picture. Is this not the reason why we all upgraded to wide screen TVs??? Is there a setting on the PS3 that I'm not seeing? I know I can avoid this by hitting the zoom mode on the TV, but that defeats the purpose. Thanks everybody...side note, I'm still very happy with this TV.

JA

Originally Posted by UnrealMiniMe

You might want to check this article out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspect_ratio_(image), especially this part: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspect_...e)#Why_16:9.3F
The 16:9 widescreen format was created as a compromise between the most common formats that content was produced in, but in reality, there are multiple common widescreen aspect ratios. Standard def TV is 4:3, HDTV is 16:9, and some movies are 1.85:1 (which is very close to 16:9, since that's 1.77...:1). If their original aspect ratio is kept and they aren't scaled with the sides slightly cropped, those 1.85:1 movies will have very thin black bars on the top and bottom on a 16:9 screen. However, a lot of other movies - especially more epic movies - are filmed in a much wider format like 2.39:1, resulting in larger bars at the top and bottom of the screen.

If HDTV manufacturers and standards organizations and such wanted, they could have made the HDTV format 2.39:1 to match the widest common film format. However, 1.85:1 films would have had pretty large black bars on the side of the image, and 4:3 content would have had gigantic black bars on the sides (much larger than now). In addition, it is very unlikely that TV shows would have been recorded in a 2.39:1 format, just because it's so particularly wide...and so they probably would have been recorded in something like a 16:9 format anyway, and that would have resulted in black bars on the sides when watching even HDTV content.

Short answer: Some film formats are significantly wider than 16:9.

Further, ongoing organizational changes limit us from making hardware changes to any of our TV. Pixel response time in the panel is comparable, but overdrive technology is always pretty ush-hush. With the limited amount of panel manufacturers, overdrive technology is a major player in maintaining competitive advantage. It is expected that Sharp be able to optimize pixel response better than any other manufacturer using the same panel.

Although Olevia may be able to fine-tune the TV to limit trailing in the future, for the moment it not in the cards. With the introduction of the 120Hz processor, optimization at 60Hz will not be very common in the industry. And, until media producers and the consumer electronics industry get on the same page, there will always be issues such as this.

Originally Posted by GoCaboNow

9 months now and this baby still has not fallen off the wall

Originally Posted by tuanat

Hey- I have been reading about the olevia 65 inch LCD being on cleareance at th $2200-$2300 dollar range. Is there a place I can still order this set for this price? or even slightly higher?

Tuan