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post #241 of 5936
10/19/07 at 11:36am
Thanks for sharing your experience as I would not have had the time or opportunity to run those visual tests at the local store.

WE watch quite a few sd materials (kids shows) so that was very helpful, I can't justify the price 2k+ difference to visual quality.

Now on waiting list for 150fd.
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post #242 of 5936
10/19/07 at 10:40pm
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Originally Posted by Kieland View Post

Thanks for sharing your experience as I would not have had the time or opportunity to run those visual tests at the local store.

WE watch quite a few sd materials (kids shows) so that was very helpful, I can't justify the price 2k+ difference to visual quality.

Now on waiting list for 150fd.

x2 thanks for info just like him based on what you mentioned theirs slightly if almost not noticeable between the both to justify the price jump of thousands.... maybe hundres then sure in a heartbeat.

basicly this is my approch i was temping to buy the PDP 5080 then the 1080p version 5010FD? couldnt find a price i was looking for and halo 3 showed up.... what i do? seattle for less i ended up getting the panasonic PX 75u series .... its a TH-42px75u now im trying to find a owener that owns any of the 8th gen pio to compare side by side on factory settings (no isf! or adjusting...) both the 75u series to a 8th gen.... to see if its worth paying the extra $$$ for.

that being said i mostly watch crappy cable signal sd and some OTA hd (prison break etc) mostly 360 and not anytime soon bd/hd

i would also like a requeset to cyber?

can you put your halo 3 disc and take a picture at the begainning of the of the disc where it shows the blacks and the 3 in blue, this would so show the true blacks and colors... all lights off

and on factory settings perferably vivid mode well torch mode lol.
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post #243 of 5936
10/20/07 at 12:06am
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Originally Posted by D-Nice View Post

Lack of brightness??? The Kuros are as bright or brighter than any other plasma out there.


D-Nice, i think he is talking about the "dirty" whites associated with the Panny plasmas that sit next to the LCD's at BB and CC. Many of us LCD people complain that plasma whites look dull while LCD whites look more natural and brighter. When you look at a 1080p Panny plasma during a snow scene, for example, the snow looks smokey and "dirty".
I'm on the edge of a cliff right now because the Sammy 5271 LCD renders the best PQ of any LCD, RPTV, and most plasmas, IMO. But this model is having a major issue with their VP not keeping up with the 120hz/8ms RT which manifests itself into what we are calling the TBE (triple ball effect) where frames lag behind during sports and scenes like in POTC with the swordplay.
This is why i am about to "just say no" to LCD's. My fear of burn in has subsided mainly by reading these threads, nothing, not even a whiff of IR/burn-in. My choice would be the 5010. These pictures you guys are posting are gorgeous. It's no coincidence that of all the LCD's out there my choice was the 5271 because of the deep blacks and strong shadow detail. These kuros deliver the goods. But when i watch football, baseball, and hockey, i don't want to see 3 pucks or 3 balls. Watching POTC in BR on a 5271 was surreal, i get the feeling it will be the same on a kuro.
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post #244 of 5936
10/20/07 at 7:01am
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Originally Posted by WilliamR View Post

Okay, my camera skills suck and I am still in break in mode/settings, but here are some pictures I took. Hopefully they don't look to bad for you.

They look beautiful. Congrats man. But I still believe that some of them dons't look like the real thing. The sea is supposed to shine under a full sun. Sorry may be it's me but my brain keeps telling me there's something wrong with it. Don't have that "feeling" tough when I look at that sort of images on CRT screens.
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post #245 of 5936
10/20/07 at 7:17am
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Originally Posted by D-Nice View Post

Lack of brightness??? The Kuros are as bright or brighter than any other plasma out there.

Could you please provide the actual numbers? I read through the specifications at the Pioneer side but couldn't find them.
You are most probably right but I don't know why it contradicts my experience with kuros I've watched a couple of them in stores (yeah I know you can trust their settings) and they look kind of dark (not just because of the deep blacks but because the whole picture lack some punch you get in other TVs). The problem as I see it is more in acute with SD sources. It seems to me that HD feedings give your brain some other tips that compensate for the like of brightness.

And no I'm not referring to LCDs only. In one of the stores they had a 7th and 8th generation Pioneers side by side. The both were showing "Casino Royale" and while you have to admit the vast superiority of the Kuro overall, still when you watched at oudoors scenes you could see very clearly what I'm telling you: while the kuros made appear some scenes shot at noon like if thet where shot at 18:00 PM.

Again that it's just what I saw and it's probably correctable with proper adjustment and calibration. I remain somewhat skeptical and since I'm on a quite strict budget I'm going to wait until next year's 10 lumen technology (or the 2gd gen LED LCDs pehaps) that hopefully will solve those issues.
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post #246 of 5936
10/20/07 at 11:09am
I like !
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post #247 of 5936
10/20/07 at 12:07pm
those are very nice, i esp. like the scenic pics, makes me feel like i'm right there
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post #248 of 5936
10/20/07 at 12:32pm
Oh geez...I saw a rainbow in those last photos.
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post #249 of 5936
10/20/07 at 2:45pm
These photos from all FM's are super, well done guy's,

cheers Steve

PS sorry its taken 5 years to make my 1st post.... its taken me a long time to read the all threads
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post #250 of 5936
10/20/07 at 4:07pm
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Originally Posted by Rainfall View Post

PS sorry its taken 5 years to make my 1st post.... its taken me a long time to read the all threads

Well, after all, you are English !
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post #251 of 5936
10/20/07 at 6:31pm
Thanks for the pics Jeffrey! Really nice shots!
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post #252 of 5936
10/20/07 at 8:30pm
I love the shot of those 3 pillars between the clouds. Looks very 3D...
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post #253 of 5936
10/20/07 at 8:31pm
I love the shot of those 3 pillars between the clouds. Looks very 3D...
Can't wait for my Kuro LX608D
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post #254 of 5936
10/21/07 at 7:29am
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Originally Posted by seekinghair View Post

Could you please provide the actual numbers? I read through the specifications at the Pioneer side but couldn't find them.
You are most probably right but I don't know why it contradicts my experience with kuros I've watched a couple of them in stores (yeah I know you can trust their settings) and they look kind of dark (not just because of the deep blacks but because the whole picture lack some punch you get in other TVs). The problem as I see it is more in acute with SD sources. It seems to me that HD feedings give your brain some other tips that compensate for the like of brightness.

And no I'm not referring to LCDs only. In one of the stores they had a 7th and 8th generation Pioneers side by side. The both were showing "Casino Royale" and while you have to admit the vast superiority of the Kuro overall, still when you watched at oudoors scenes you could see very clearly what I'm telling you: while the kuros made appear some scenes shot at noon like if thet where shot at 18:00 PM.

Again that it's just what I saw and it's probably correctable with proper adjustment and calibration. I remain somewhat skeptical and since I'm on a quite strict budget I'm going to wait until next year's 10 lumen technology (or the 2gd gen LED LCDs pehaps) that hopefully will solve those issues.

so wait... and then next year, wait again, because there will be something else you don't like about them...

btw... there's no such time as "18:00 pm"...
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post #255 of 5936
10/21/07 at 7:35am
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btw... there's no such time as "18:00 pm"...

Sure is, also called "O dark thirty"
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post #256 of 5936
10/21/07 at 9:00am
great pics on your 6010, congrats jeffrey
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post #257 of 5936
10/21/07 at 11:18am
Does anybody have any pic.'s of a Pioneer PDP 607 CMX? Im buying one from a friend that's a installer. I hear I can buy a tuner card or just run the tuner from my Direct TV rec. I'm looking to use it for a PC monitor or use it with a HTPC.
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post #258 of 5936
10/21/07 at 11:18am
Thanks for the comments--glad to contribute. These new Pioneers really are fantastic TV's.
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post #259 of 5936
10/21/07 at 12:17pm
Here are a couple from me...unfortunately my little digital camera is somewhat shotty. This is a post-cal 5010FD being fed the Transformers, 300, and King Kong HD-DVDs.







More to come if I can figure out self-timers and a flat surface...
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post #260 of 5936
10/21/07 at 1:21pm
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Originally Posted by jeffrey r View Post

Thanks for the comments--glad to contribute. These new Pioneers really are fantastic TV's.

jeffrey, your pics seem to have vanished.
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post #261 of 5936
10/21/07 at 3:20pm
pics of my 5080 and BDI Novia 8429 (new cocoa stain, which scored high on the WAF)
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post #262 of 5936
10/21/07 at 3:49pm
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Originally Posted by MarcDBecker View Post

pics of my 5080 and BDI Novia 8429 (new cocoa stain, which scored high on the WAF)

Beautiful, thanks for posting.
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post #263 of 5936
10/21/07 at 5:15pm
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Originally Posted by MarcDBecker View Post

pics of my 5080 and BDI Novia 8429 (new cocoa stain, which scored high on the WAF)

Very nice setup.
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post #264 of 5936
10/21/07 at 5:25pm
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[quote=jeffrey r;11964443]And a few more:

nice pics, but the greens are bit oversaturated, I think.
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post #265 of 5936
10/21/07 at 5:34pm
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Originally Posted by jeffrey r View Post

Ok guys. Been on the forum for years, but this is my first time taking pictures for the forum or posting pictures. These are of the Pioneer 6010; stand is Furnitech FT72cc; pics are from Planet Earth HD-DVD, Happy Feet HD-DVD, and Transformers HD-DVD, all through Toshiba HD-A2 connected with HDMI. Camera is Pentax DSLR with 50mm lens, all shots are handheld with no flash. The bookshelf speakers were temporary Onix X-LS, and have been replaced by Axiom M60 floorstanders. Any questions, let me know. So bear with me if this doesn't work, but here goes.












nice pics,

i have been looking for a stand to pu under my 5010fd and im considering this one. my main concern is the center channel slot. i just picked up a B&W set up and im not sure if the surround would fit in that slot. if you wouldnt mind helping me out that would be great. here is a link to the center channel i bought,

http://www.bowers-wilkins.com/displa...fid=2321&sc=ht

also im loving every second with my 5010fd. the blacks are amazing and 3d effect is outstanding. im watching the sox v.s. indians on fox HD and the 3d effect is really shining. i watched the illusionist and some discovery channel shows the other night and the blacks where simply put, stunning. i had been looking at the panny for quite some time but since getting this set i can see where the blacks are that much better. the detail in the shadows are something i have not seen in a HD set ever. the detail in those shadows are top notch period.
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post #266 of 5936
10/21/07 at 6:24pm
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Originally Posted by bboncorr1 View Post

if you wouldnt mind helping me out that would be great. here is a link to the center channel i bought,

http://www.bowers-wilkins.com/displa...fid=2321&sc=ht

You'd have no problem fitting that stand in the Furnitech. I measure the following approximate dimensions for the center compartment: 10" High X 28" Wide X 19" Deep. You'd have room to spare with that center channel.

Cybertec, as to the greens, they have a bit more saturation in the pictures than in real life--just an effect of my camera settings I would think. Colors seem very accurate.
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post #267 of 5936
10/21/07 at 6:45pm
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Originally Posted by cybertec View Post

at the moment there is NO HD-DVD player that is future proof, from all my reading, HD-DVD players still need lots of work, Blu-Ray players on the other hand are more stable.

You have this backwards. The BR players are the ones with all the Profile issues.
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post #268 of 5936
10/21/07 at 6:56pm
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Originally Posted by jeffrey r View Post

You'd have no problem fitting that stand in the Furnitech. I measure the following approximate dimensions for the center compartment: 10" High X 28" Wide X 19" Deep. You'd have room to spare with that center channel.

Cybertec, as to the greens, they have a bit more saturation in the pictures than in real life--just an effect of my camera settings I would think. Colors seem very accurate.

thanks.
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post #269 of 5936
10/21/07 at 7:00pm
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Originally Posted by jeffrey r View Post

And a few more:

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Very pretty, but these seem a bit over-saturated to me. The one I've left in the quote is just an example. Look at those greens and that rainbow.... And it may be the shot, but there is no detail in the hill's shadow. And, what's with the random colors on the water in the lower right corner?
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post #270 of 5936
10/21/07 at 7:09pm
it must be the camera because this tv has outstanding detail in shadows and the colors are very accurate once the're toned down a few notches. if you want to talk over saturated then look no further then sony lcos line. i know from watching mine for over a year now.
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