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wow, would be great some Padme pics right ? :]
In this picture we can see clearly how much depht the plasma textures gives to the main image against the background plane
Edited by ertoil - 12/7/12 at 9:59am
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hey i remember this thread smile.gif
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" Lawrence d'Arabie " ( BD ) ...

S790/Kuro RGB + DC 36 bits :





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These are from my ISF-calibrated 50" LX-508D (8G, 1080P) Kuro. It's really an amazing TV. I also used to own a 9G Kuro (The LX-5090) but sold it as I didn't need two televisions any more. The 9G has an even better black level, but the 8G has pretty superb blacks after professional calibration anyway, so the difference was marginal to my eyes. As you can see, the blacks blend right into the bezel, and this is on an 8G model! The ISF calibration made an enormous improvement, the difference is like night and day.

The content is some 1080P HD demo video files played back via my PS3. I've also watched the "Avengers Assemble" BD on it tonight and the PQ was jaw-dropping. It looked so good that I was engrossed into the movie and forgot to take any screen caps. smile.gif

I've been auditioning the new Panasonic VT50 in my local AV store, but I can see massive flicker on them whenever showing bright/white scenes. Apparently, this is caused by the way Panasonic PDPs drive the panel and some people are susceptible to it, whereas others are immune. I seem to be one of the unlucky few, so this makes Panny plasmas unusable for me. I guess I'm sticking with Pioneer until something better comes along.

FULL ALBUM (more pictures and higher resolution):
http://imageshack.us/g/1/9941792/

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Edited by ekotan - 12/30/12 at 6:27pm
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Nice pics Urga, and ekotan. Planet Earth still is an amazing looking BD to show off a display.

ekotan, why would you keep an 8g over a 9g? You could of calibrated the 9g too and got an even better picture, and blacks, than with your LX-508D.
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Because I got more money selling my 9G, with which I will now get a second-hand KRP. Also, the 9G was in my home in another country, and I just wasn't using it all that often. It wouldn't have been practical to have it shipped overseas to the UK where I live now, so selling it was the logical alternative.
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Because I got more money selling my 9G, with which I will now get a second-hand KRP. Also, the 9G was in my home in another country, and I just wasn't using it all that often. It wouldn't have been practical to have it shipped overseas to the UK where I live now, so selling it was the logical alternative.

Oh, ok. That makes sense. I was just curious. Are you getting the 50" or 60"? The 50" models are darker than the regular models and the elites.

Where is the shot with the 3 birds on the arm from? Did you get that from demo world? If so, what is it called?
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Yes, I've found a 50" KRP-500A in mint condition. 60" would really be too large for my living room. I am now going to sell this 8G as well and get the KRP, which will hopefully do me until something better comes along.

The colourful birds come from a 1080p clip called "hd_other_pioneer_bahama.m2ts". I believe you can find it on HD demo world (http://www.demo-world.eu/trailers/high-definition-trailers.php).
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Edited by Bubbleboyjones - 1/4/13 at 11:03pm
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Great pictures as usual guys. I'd love to see some Panny shots in comparison as the tech has allegedly caught up.
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Out of curiosity, I've auditioned a Panny VT50 last month in my local AV dealer, in a light-controlled room. This is their current flagship model and the TV was in THX mode connected to a SkyHD source (satellite). Static screenshots will look great, black levels are close to Kuro, colours look fairly accurate; but I could see some problems with flicker and motion processing when using 50 Hz inputs (UK broadcasting standard). I could spot visible false contours during fast camera pans, for example with soccer when the camera pans left to right after a goal kick: the pitch markings and players appear to have multiple defined edges. I could also spot very bad flicker with white/lighter content, similar to a CRT which is set to a low refresh rate. These issues have been inherent to Panny UK plasmas since 2010, which is when I first spotted them on the VT20. Some people apparently can't see them, either because their eyes aren't sensitive to them or they're watching 60Hz signals where the sets don't exhibit these issues. Unfortunately, these issues make Panny sets unusable for me. As always, try before you buy but this is why I'm choosing to stick with a second-hand KRP rather than buying a brand new Panny. I don't care about 3D and I already have a Mac mini and Sony PS3 which provide Smart TV features.
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Originally Posted by ekotan View Post

Out of curiosity, I've auditioned a Panny VT50 last month in my local AV dealer, in a light-controlled room. This is their current flagship model and the TV was in THX mode connected to a SkyHD source (satellite). Static screenshots will look great, black levels are close to Kuro, colours look fairly accurate; but I could see some problems with flicker and motion processing when using 50 Hz inputs (UK broadcasting standard). I could spot visible false contours during fast camera pans, for example with soccer when the camera pans left to right after a goal kick: the pitch markings and players appear to have multiple defined edges. I could also spot very bad flicker with white/lighter content, similar to a CRT which is set to a low refresh rate. These issues have been inherent to Panny UK plasmas since 2010, which is when I first spotted them on the VT20. Some people apparently can't see them, either because their eyes aren't sensitive to them or they're watching 60Hz signals where the sets don't exhibit these issues. Unfortunately, these issues make Panny sets unusable for me. As always, try before you buy but this is why I'm choosing to stick with a second-hand KRP rather than buying a brand new Panny. I don't care about 3D and I already have a Mac mini and Sony PS3 which provide Smart TV features.
. Am with you on this...am not big on 3d...so am looking for a KRP...to upgrade to. From my 110 ...If I can get my hand on the 600 that will be it for me..am in the USA. Looked at the vt50 last week and its a good TV ...but I still can't get does really inky blacks of the kuro..
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Originally Posted by pioneertop View Post

. Am with you on this...am not big on 3d...so am looking for a KRP...to upgrade to. From my 110 ...If I can get my hand on the 600 that will be it for me..am in the USA. Looked at the vt50 last week and its a good TV ...but I still can't get does really inky blacks of the kuro..

I'm very excited to see what Panasonic offers tomorrow at CES but I'm just curious about something? Why do people here expect the Panasonic VT50 to be on the same level (as far as blacks) as the Pioneer Kuro? Wasn't the Kuro far more expensive than the VT50 of the same size?
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Originally Posted by HLdan View Post

I'm very excited to see what Panasonic offers tomorrow at CES but I'm just curious about something? Why do people here expect the Panasonic VT50 to be on the same level (as far as blacks) as the Pioneer Kuro? Wasn't the Kuro far more expensive than the VT50 of the same size?
. Its funny you mention that..I was thinking the same thing ...even a used kuro....is still very costly I have seen used kuro,s for more money then brand new vt50,s...go figarrr....
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Originally Posted by HLdan View Post

I'm very excited to see what Panasonic offers tomorrow at CES but I'm just curious about something? Why do people here expect the Panasonic VT50 to be on the same level (as far as blacks) as the Pioneer Kuro? Wasn't the Kuro far more expensive than the VT50 of the same size?

I am watching a VT50 right now (paid 2550 out the door) while waiting someone to pick up my Pro-111 which I sold for 1600. I like th colors on the VT better. More accurate. THX mode can be improved on with calibration. The VT is close on blacks but the Kuro 9G is better. VT crushes them a bit. Remember that Panny's and all manufacturers have to meet energy and Eco mandates Pio didn't have to worry about. Probably why Kuro tech is not being used by Panny's. All in all the Panny's is a remarkable engineering feat in its own right. Also EU models crippled by even tighter Eco mandates than in the states.
Edited by Glashub - 1/6/13 at 1:32pm
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Hey Urga,

What are you using to take pictures of your Kuro? Those are great pics.
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Originally Posted by HLdan View Post

I'm very excited to see what Panasonic offers tomorrow at CES but I'm just curious about something? Why do people here expect the Panasonic VT50 to be on the same level (as far as blacks) as the Pioneer Kuro? Wasn't the Kuro far more expensive than the VT50 of the same size?

well yes but it's hard to compare TV prices and tech of 5 years ago with that of today. TVs are much cheaper now in comparison.
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Can we please stay on topic.
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So is AMF going to make anymore Kuros?
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Originally Posted by trem0lo View Post

Great pictures as usual guys. I'd love to see some Panny shots in comparison as the tech has allegedly caught up.

The ZT60 looks to be it. Finally.

Still, no need for me to upgrade. I've been enjoying reference PQ for 3 years now. wink.gif

Those of you with 50" might feel like upgrading to 60" or 65" though.
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The ZT60 looks to be it. Finally.

Still, no need for me to upgrade. I've been enjoying reference PQ for 3 years now. wink.gif

Those of you with 50" might feel like upgrading to 60" or 65" though.
how many time though have we heard that, we shall wait and see:)
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The ZT60 looks to be it. Finally.

None of the Panasonic plasmas are 'it'. They all have visible flicker and problems with motion (false contouring) with 50 Hz signals, which is the broadcasting standard here in the UK where I live. I doubt Panasonic will address it this time round, since they don't even admit the issue in the first place and it has been there since the VT20 days.

NTSC users should be okay though. Me, I'm keeping my newly-acquired KRP-500A indefinitely.
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Well guys I'm just going by the impressions at ces I read. But like you said, craigyboy, panasonic reaching kuro status is said every year. But I just have a feeling it maby will this year. Or at least come close.

ekotan, how are you liking your 500m so far? That display is as good as it gets unless you want a bigger size.
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Originally Posted by saprano View Post

Well guys I'm just going by the impressions at ces I read. But like you said, craigyboy, panasonic reaching kuro status is said every year. But I just have a feeling it maby will this year. Or at least come close.

ekotan, how are you liking your 500m so far? That display is as good as it gets unless you want a bigger size.
yhis set is the 500a saprano , i have the same model:)
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I love it, it's flawless. Very happy with it, and I've been lucky to be able to find a used one in 100% condition.
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Hey Urga,

What are you using to take pictures of your Kuro? Those are great pics.
Hello ,
Bridge Lumix DMC FZ8 ... wink.gif
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S790/Kuro ( BD ) :





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