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post #91 of 7296
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Originally Posted by D-Nice View Post

MY GOD!!!!! You've captured EXACTLY what I see on my Kuro when playing 300. And when I say exactly...I mean it!!!!

Better draw your shades, so that he can not do that!:
post #92 of 7296
Can anyone point me to a thread to see what exactly I lose getting a non - elite?
post #93 of 7296
Here are the technical feature differences on the Elite that are not on the non-elite.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...5#post11222865

The improved glass is only on the 1080p units (110FD and 150FD).

The coveted Pure mode is only on the Elites.

The QA process for the Elite is at a much higher standard then the non-elites.

Russ
post #94 of 7296
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Originally Posted by dssturbo1 View Post

Get the Pro150FD now....let's see why.
#1 you have approval, so do it!
#2 a 70" is still a rumor
#3 you don't know the price of the 70" (IF it does come true) it could easily be double the msrp of the current Pro150FD.
#4 see #1, you have approval and will not get killed.
#5 as good as the pics look, I bet Cybertec will tell you it looks even better in person. consider that they are taken and then downloaded into the computer, uploaded to a host, posted on the avs forums and then your viewing them on what display?? and they still look Great!
#6 You can get a great deal on it now from an authorized Pioneer Elite dealer who is also an Avs forum sponsor.
#7 Why are you waiting??????? You could be staring at those pics in person on your own Pro150FD very soon instead of waiting a year or more!
#8, oh yeah see #1.


wpwj40e, this gentleman, known here as dssturbo1, displays great wisdom. Get the Pro 150 NOW!
post #95 of 7296
Quote:
Originally Posted by dssturbo1 View Post

Get the Pro150FD now....let's see why.
#1 you have approval, so do it!
#2 a 70" is still a rumor
#3 you don't know the price of the 70" (IF it does come true) it could easily be double the msrp of the current Pro150FD.
#4 see #1, you have approval and will not get killed.
#5 as good as the pics look, I bet Cybertec will tell you it looks even better in person. consider that they are taken and then downloaded into the computer, uploaded to a host, posted on the avs forums and then your viewing them on what display?? and they still look Great!
#6 You can get a great deal on it now from an authorized Pioneer Elite dealer who is also an Avs forum sponsor.
#7 Why are you waiting??????? You could be staring at those pics in person on your own Pro150FD very soon instead of waiting a year or more!
#8, oh yeah see #1.

Thanks Ken and dssturbo.....

#1, #4, #8 are mighty compelling
post #96 of 7296
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Originally Posted by dssturbo1 View Post

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#6 You can get a great deal on it now from an authorized Pioneer Elite dealer who is also an Avs forum sponsor.

Nice! could you pm me or link me to this contact?!
post #97 of 7296
Lets not forget that the non ELites are also dang nice!
post #98 of 7296
no worries Roman...I got you bookmarked in case of non-elite purchase

but my local contact for Elites is being a little, shall we say, not-so-generous, so I have to look for the "deal" if you know what I mean
post #99 of 7296
cyber please take more planet earth piczzzzz pleasssse
post #100 of 7296
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Originally Posted by RomanInvision View Post

Lets not forget that the non ELites are also dang nice!

Yes, they are Roman, except for that darn silver trim around the outer edge.
Just what was Pio thinking when they did that?
post #101 of 7296
Who is this elite dealer that is a sponsor on this site?
post #102 of 7296
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Originally Posted by jazzzione View Post

Who is this elite dealer that is a sponsor on this site?

Axxis Audio...link at bottom of the page.
post #103 of 7296
ah ha! thanks
post #104 of 7296
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Originally Posted by KillerT2 View Post

This is what SD material looks like...

No way that's SD!
post #105 of 7296
Shame on you cybertec those pictures cost me 9000.00CAD(Pro-150FD, with shipping, ISF calibration, & Sennheiser hd555 headphones)!
I'm a happy camper!!
Cybertec do you recommend a break-in DVD or just leave PBS HD-channel on (PBS has no logo), also should I wait after the 100-200 hours of break-in before ISF calibration or A.S.A.P?
Thanks cybertec those pictures gave me the final push to buy.....groceries can wait-LOL.
cheers Tim.
post #106 of 7296
Wait till after break-in to do calibration, usually around 300 hours.

Russ
post #107 of 7296
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Originally Posted by cybertec View Post

a few pics from 300 on the PS3 Blu Ray, this is a grainy and dark movie, shadow detail is fantastic,

Tell me how to take pics THAT good, and I will take pics of mine. Of course, my camera is like 3 years old...lol.
post #108 of 7296
since i got the hddvd 300 i compared to my 5084 @ powerdvd/8800ultra

theres definitely more colors on the 5084 @ all 4 default modes: game/movie/standard/dynamic

will get 300 on bluray for better comparison


hope next week ill get planet earth on bluray from blockbuster.. if not ill buy it
post #109 of 7296
Quote:
Originally Posted by z.z View Post

since i got the hddvd 300 i compared to my 5084 @ powerdvd/8800ultra

theres definitely more colors on the 5084 @ all 4 default modes: game/movie/standard/dynamic

will get 300 on bluray for better comparison


hope next week ill get planet earth on bluray from blockbuster.. if not ill buy it

300 has a very "stylistic" color pallet (pale colors, yellow tint, crushed blacks and blown out highlights). It is NOT "colorful". If you think it is suppose to be "colorful" you are very wrong.
post #110 of 7296
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim sc430 View Post

Shame on you cybertec those pictures cost me 9000.00CAD(Pro-150FD, with shipping, ISF calibration, & Sennheiser hd555 headphones)!
I'm a happy camper!!
Cybertec do you recommend a break-in DVD or just leave PBS HD-channel on (PBS has no logo), also should I wait after the 100-200 hours of break-in before ISF calibration or A.S.A.P?
Thanks cybertec those pictures gave me the final push to buy.....groceries can wait-LOL.
cheers Tim.

I use D-Nice's STB settings for the PRO-110FD-50" and PRO-150FD-60", will break it in for 200-300 hours, still doing the break in process, I usually play full screen HD content, a logo here or there is no problem, I even watch ESPN with all those scores tickers, just make sure you don't leave static images on the screen for extended periods of time, like a game in pause mode, otherwise you will be good to go. I have Dish Network so when the PDP is running, I have it on Food Network HD, or Ultra HD, which show many different colors, especially Ultra HD which shows lots of fashion shows with fantastic looking models on runways . I also watch my occasional movie.

More pics to come soon, I am a bit under the weather, so excuse my absence.
post #111 of 7296
I bought my Pioneer 5080HD from Invision Displays this summer (July '07) and have enjoyed it for many months now. I just got around to taking some pictures of it for family/friends, and I thought I'd share here. I think the pictures came out pretty well, but of course they can't do the television justice, you'd have to see it in person to fully appreciate it! Knowing that many of you ARE enjoying your TVs in person right now, I still hope you enjoy the photos. All movie photos are standard-definition DVD that has been upscaled to 1080i by my *low-end* DVD player.

I use the Pio 5080 with a Toshiba SD-4890SU standard def. DVD player. It has up to 1080i upscaling capability, which I make use of through the HDMI connection. It's hooked to a JVC RX-8000V 5.1 DTS receiver, running Klipsch KG 5.5s for main front speakers and KG 2.5s for rear surrounds (giving me 4.0 at this point! I'm still searching for the center and sub...). I also use my XBox 360 on the TV. In-fact the XBox is the only high-def source I have!

I took these photos with our Canon PowerShot SD400. It's just a point & shoot digi-cam, with no fancy lenses or anything. I used manual settings to adjust the exposure, I needed to bump up the time a bit to capture things in our dimly lit family room. Note: most of the movie scenes are on pause, I tried to capture the best still-frames I could, some things might be a little fuzzy still. The TV shots show motion, which is why they're blurry somewhat, but you get the point. We have about 12 channels of over-the-air HD television, it looks great in-person. Some shots will be linked and some will be shown in-thread, just click the link for the others (since I'm limited to 10 photos on AVS!).

Enjoy!

Pic 1: Scene from the Matrix: Revolutions, you can see most of my setup: TV, Rcvr, DVD player, XBox 360, and Klipsch KG 5.5 main speakers


Pic 2: Capt Mephune talking with the young 'volunteer' in Matrix: Revolutions
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i1.../Pio508002.jpg

Pic 3: Nairobi pilots the hovercraft as it powers down some pads in Matrix: Revolutions. Notice the shadow details, which are even muted in this photo, my camera only captures so much! The black levels are superb on this TV. You can barely notice where the bezel stops and the film begins!


Pic 4: Opening part of Lord of the Rings (LOTR): The Two Towers, photo is kind of dark, but looks good in person
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i1.../Pio508004.jpg

Pic 5: Close-up on the mountain, a lot of shadow detail from this Kuro set!
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i1.../Pio508005.jpg

Pic 6: Frodo and Merry watch as Gandalf casts the Balrog into the chasm


Pic 7: Gandalf watches as the Balrog plummets, nice definition in the fiery face of the Balrog
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i1.../Pio508007.jpg

Pic 8: Gandalf making his assault on the monster!


Pic 9: This is the cave/opening below the tall pit into which Gandalf and Balrog fell. The darkness really brings out the TVs capabilities. The next picture shows where the light/fire begin to illuminate the cave
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i1.../Pio508009.jpg

Pic 10: The light/fire have begun to illuminate the cave and water as the fiery Balrog and Gandalf fall through the opening
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i1.../Pio508010.jpg

Pic 11: Saruman using one of the "seeing stones," I like the colors and stark details in this photo


Pic 12: Treebeard with the two hobbits, Merry and Pippin
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i1.../Pio508012.jpg

Pic 13: Gandalf, Aragorn, and Legolas approaching Rohan, I really like the scenery and colors in this photo


Pic 14: 1st in a series of 4 of the same shot on pause: Original size in 4:3 with grey side bars
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i1.../Pio508014.jpg

Pic 15: Compare to the last photo: Ugly stretching of the same image in "wide" mode
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i1.../Pio508015.jpg

Pic 16: Compare to the last 2 photos: Mild distortion and stretching in "full" mode
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i1.../Pio508016.jpg

Pic 17: Compare to last 3 photos: Correct proportions, no side bars, and minimal top/bottom black bars in "zoom" mode, my favorite for DVDs. You barely lose any film information on the sides from this mode [compare]


Pic 18: A real joy, high-definition gaming!
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i1.../Pio508018.jpg

Pic 19: Halo 3 loading screen, I am so excited it's finally here!!! It looks outstanding on the 5080
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i1.../Pio508019.jpg

Pic 20: Me driving the Warthog on the approach to Tsavo Highway
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i1.../Pio508020.jpg

Pic 21: The Brutes took me out, this is a quick shot before it restarts my last checkpoint. I love the look of the "bubble shield" top left area of the screen. The Brutes are "smart" and use all sorts of the equipment to their advantage


Pic 22: Just overlooking the sky, the Banshees (flying objects) look blurry because they were moving and the camera exposure was pretty long. The rest of the shot looks very nice though. Lots of detail in this game, and the TV shows it well


Pic 23: More Warthog driving, nice details shown in the tunnel. The bright opening even looks washed out (purposely), as if you yourself were in the cave and about to burst through the opening (your eyes would then adjust the size of your pupil if it were real life, man, they thought of everything in this game!!!
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i1.../Pio508023.jpg

Pic 24: Peekin' out with the Sniper Rifle, there's like 4 or 5 baddies just below the gate
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i1.../Pio508024.jpg

Pic 25: The Halo 3 main screen. In-person the text is razor sharp, my camera just captured some blurriness since it was pretty dim
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i1.../Pio508026.jpg

Pic 26: I'm not a huge football fan, but everyone wants to see HD football on their set, so this was on TV


Pic 27: The people were moving (caused the blur) but this is High-def football. The ticker at the bottom is pretty sharp and even though it's not totally clear, you can see a lot of detail on the coach's face/hair. HD TV looks really good, they still have some issues with compression of data, etc. that cause a less than totally stellar picture
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i1.../Pio508029.jpg

Pic 28: My new (to me) Klipsch KG 2.5 surrounds. It's not ideal placement, but I have very little room to work with! The other surround is tucked under a lamp table on the left corner of the room
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i1.../Pio508031.jpg
post #112 of 7296
Quote:
Originally Posted by D-Nice View Post

300 has a very "stylistic" color pallet (pale colors, yellow tint, crushed blacks and blown out highlights). It is NOT "colorful". If you think it is suppose to be "colorful" you are very wrong.

indeed, thats why i watch 300 @ movie mode on my 5084

i hope i havent offended any kuro owners by: more colors on 5084

i didnt say it looks better just more 'colorful'

yet the blue/white looks somewhat better than on the 5084 thats why i stated: will get 300 on bluray for better comparison
post #113 of 7296
Quote:
Originally Posted by z.z View Post

indeed, thats why i watch 300 @ movie mode on my 5084

i hope i havent offended any kuro owners by: more colors on 5084

i didnt say it looks better just more 'colorful'

yet the blue/white looks somewhat better than on the 5084 thats why i stated: will get 300 on bluray for better comparison

So you have a 5084 next to a Pioneer at the house to compare?
post #114 of 7296
Quote:
Originally Posted by z.z View Post

indeed, thats why i watch 300 @ movie mode on my 5084

i hope i havent offended any kuro owners by: more colors on 5084

i didnt say it looks better just more 'colorful'

yet the blue/white looks somewhat better than on the 5084 thats why i stated: will get 300 on bluray for better comparison

Not sure what you mean by 'more colors', but I'd bet they're not more 'accurate' colors.
post #115 of 7296
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by z.z View Post

since i got the hddvd 300 i compared to my 5084 @ powerdvd/8800ultra

theres definitely more colors on the 5084 @ all 4 default modes: game/movie/standard/dynamic

will get 300 on bluray for better comparison


hope next week ill get planet earth on bluray from blockbuster.. if not ill buy it

the Sammy 5084-5884 is a fine 1080p PDP, but the new Pioneer Kuro's are in a different league, especially the Elites, being colorful and displaying correct colors and skin tones are two different animals, many PDP's display colorful colors, but displaying them correctly is another story. Now would I purchase a Sammy 5084-5884, I sure would, as it is a fine PDP, but I went for the best in class, since this is a long term purchase for me. Every professional reviewer has stated that the new Kuro's are in another class by themselves, until other manufacturers come close, it will stay this way, this is not because I own one, it's because it is what it is.
post #116 of 7296
Quote:
Originally Posted by z.z View Post

indeed, thats why i watch 300 @ movie mode on my 5084

i hope i havent offended any kuro owners by: more colors on 5084

i didnt say it looks better just more 'colorful'

yet the blue/white looks somewhat better than on the 5084 thats why i stated: will get 300 on bluray for better comparison

You didn't offend anyone. It's just a common mistake that people think everything is suppose to look "colorful".

300 on BD isn't going to look any better than 300 on HD DVD (I have both copies).
post #117 of 7296
lets make this clear.. 1st what i mean by more colors = 18-bit color processing 2nd i dont dis/put down the kuro (check 1st page of thread) 3rd i certainly dont praise the 5084 - the only thing that balances out the negatives is the price


well, thanx to your responses i went out this morning and gotten planet earth bluray and compared all cybertecs planet earth bluray pix to my 5084

lets just say that if pio or sam or other manufacturer would bring out minimum 18-bit how bout 24-bit processing? little bit closer to r e a l and minimum of the kuros blacks how bout even badder blacks? and some better contrast for once.. in a single package.. gets my $.. 10G$ no problem

fair enough?
post #118 of 7296
does it smell like troll in here, or is it just me?
post #119 of 7296
Thread Starter 
here are a few more of LOTR on a regular DVD upconverted with the PS3
post #120 of 7296
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by z.z View Post

lets make this clear.. 1st what i mean by more colors = 18-bit color processing 2nd i dont dis/put down the kuro (check 1st page of thread) 3rd i certainly dont praise the 5084 - the only thing that balances out the negatives is the price


well, thanx to your responses i went out this morning and gotten planet earth bluray and compared all cybertecs planet earth bluray pix to my 5084

lets just say that if pio or sam or other manufacturer would bring out minimum 18-bit how bout 24-bit processing? little bit closer to r e a l and minimum of the kuros blacks how bout even badder blacks? and some better contrast for once.. in a single package.. gets my $.. 10G$ no problem

fair enough?

it's quite understandable trying to defend your purchase, no one has said you have a bad PDP, matter of fact you have a fine PDP, just not in the Pioneer Kuro class, that's all, and by saying that the Sammy has better black levels makes you look not to smart, as in every review and owners who own these new Kuro PDP's have said that the black levels are in another league. Plus in regards about the bit rate and black levels, it has nothing to do with it, the Pio's have a new CELL STRUCTURE, that's what gives them the better blacks, nothing to to with bits and bites.
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