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Are Klipsch Quintet IIs easily blown?

post #1 of 13
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I have an onkyo 605 receiver that puts out 90W per channel. I am looking at getting the Quintet II surround speakers and was wonder is it possible for me to blowout the speakers with the 90W?
post #2 of 13
Speakers are more likely to be blown by an underpowered amp than an overpowered amp.

Just don't try to DJ any dances with them and you'll probably be OK.
post #3 of 13
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Originally Posted by dae3dae3 View Post

Speakers are more likely to be blown by an underpowered amp than an overpowered amp.

Just don't try to DJ any dances with them and you'll probably be OK.

Doesn't playing stuff at low volume represent an underpowered amp? I don't quite understand how that would blow a speaker.
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Doesn't playing stuff at low volume represent an underpowered amp? I don't quite understand how that would blow a speaker.

Playing at a low volume doesn't typically mean you have an underpowered amp, its means you probably want to listen at a low level.

What dae3dae3 means I think is that if you use an underpowered amp and turn the volume way up, it will distort and clip which is what kills speakers. Distortion is a speaker's worst enemy.

Playing a high powered amp at low volumes won't hurt your speakers at all.

Klipsch makes very efficient speakers with a sensitivity rating at 90db or more. It shouldn't take much to power them at all. Unless you're in a really big room and are trying to play the speakers at concert hall volumes, the Onkyo and Klipsch pairing should be fine.
post #5 of 13
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I understand now thanks for clearing that up. But I imagine since the quintet IIs are rated at 50W RMS (100 Peak) and the Onkyo is rated at 90W I could still cause clipping by turning up the volume too high right?
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I understand now thanks for clearing that up. But I imagine since the quintet IIs are rated at 50W RMS (100 Peak) and the Onkyo is rated at 90W I could still cause clipping by turning up the volume too high right?

No, they should be fine. The quintet 2 is rated at 100wrms 200 peak. The new quintet 3 is rated at 50w rms and 100 peak. The quintet 2 should be fine with that receiver.
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Originally Posted by czwsecurity View Post

No, they should be fine. The quintet 2 is rated at 100wrms 200 peak. The new quintet 3 is rated at 50w rms and 100 peak. The quintet 2 should be fine with that receiver.

Actually on klipsch's site it shows the Q II sats to be 50W RMS and 100 peak. http://www.klipsch.com/products/deta...ellite-ii.aspx

The center channel is 75W RMS and 150 peak.

I had also seen some other electronics sites say they were 100W RMS and 200 peak but I have no clue where they got that info.
post #8 of 13
Your amp is using much less power than you think. A speaker with an efficiency of 90 Db will produce 90 Db of sound when measured from one meter when supplied with one watt of power. Each time the watts double the sound output will go up by 3 Db

1 Watt = 90 Db
2 Watt = 93 Db
4 Watt = 96 Db
8 Watt = 99 Db
16 Watt = 102 Db
32 Watt = 105 Db
64 Watt = 108 Db
128 Watt = 111 Db

If you are listening at a constant volume of 100 Db your amp is only putting out less than 16 watts of power. Also, the numbers above are for only one speaker. Each speaker you add will on average add another 3 Db. Like I said, just don't try to DJ any dances.

This also should show you that going from a 100 to a 110 watt amplifier will make next to no difference all other things being equal. It should also show you that if you want to fill a big room with sound it is easier to do by using efficient speakers than by using more power. Look at what the same power will do with a speaker that has an efficiency of 96 Db.

1 Watt = 96 Db
2 Watt = 99 Db
4 Watt = 102 Db
8 Watt = 105 Db
16 Watt = 108 Db
32 Watt = 111 Db
64 Watt = 114 Db
128 Watt = 117 Db

That is the difference between hitting "Reference Level" in a home theater or not without spending thousands on amps.

Between 6 and 10 Db is what most people would describe as twice as loud so that efficiency increase makes a huge difference in how loud a system will play. Of course, this is only one thing to consider when looking for speakers. No one statistic is all-important.

If you are interested in learning why it is better to have an overpowered amp than an underpowered amp read the following link. It is about pro-audio but the same concepts apply in your home.

http://www.sweetwater.com/shop/live-...ng-guide.php#1
post #9 of 13
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Originally Posted by Pocket Aces View Post

Actually on klipsch's site it shows the Q II sats to be 50W RMS and 100 peak. http://www.klipsch.com/products/deta...ellite-ii.aspx

The center channel is 75W RMS and 150 peak.

I had also seen some other electronics sites say they were 100W RMS and 200 peak but I have no clue where they got that info.

I don't know about the 200 peak, but the bottom sticker of a Quintet II satellite I have sitting around in the room claims 100 watts continuous.
post #10 of 13
I thought power to peak power should be a ratio of 1:2.

Does anyone understand why does the Q SL have a 1:4 ratio? If so, some guidance would be awesome. thanks

http://www.klipsch.com/products/deta...specifications


I would buy these except I don't want to be continually worried about whether the amp is outputting 50W to them.
post #11 of 13
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I would buy these except I don't want to be continually worried about whether the amp is outputting 50W to them.

You have a serious case of paralysis by analysis.

Put down the calculator and buy the speakers if you want them. Read my post above. More power is safer than less power. You would be more likely to blow those speakers with a 50 watt amp than with a 200 watt amp.

Are you doing either of the following things?
1. Using them to DJ a dance
2. Playing them full power in a gymnasium size room.

If not, there is nothing to worry about. If so, you will need to save some more money and get some bigger speakers from Klipsch or whoever you prefer.

Sorry, I'm not intending to yell at you but I am being frank in order to knock you out of the hypnosis cause by the spread sheets and calculator.
post #12 of 13
I had the same setup at one point... Power wise you will be fine and they sound very good for the money but DO NOT skimp on the SUB as these things provide good detail in the highs but you need the sub to do A LOT of work for everything mid and below.

Also, be you need to know that this setup is somewhat fatiguing due to a shrill, sharp sound... part of the issue is the Onkyo as I have heard the Quintet's with a HK AVR and the tone was much better.

That's my two cents...
post #13 of 13
I have a very similar pairing Onkyo 100W/ch receiver. Last night I saw smoke coming from my Q-IIIs after playing Pearl Jam Live at the Garden - Wishlist. Just from the mains though. I think I did some damage but I was listening at very high volumes and I really never checked to see if they were compatible. They sounded great though.
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