Triad Owner's Thread - Page 56

Originally Posted by Mopar_Mudder

Is their a way to switch an inwall silver surround from Dipole tp Bipole? I am starting to have to lean toward the Atlantic IWTS-30's because they can do this with a flip of a switch. I have Dipole side surrounds now and at times I think I would like to try a Bipole for the sides or backs. So I hate to get another set of Dipoles, ones that I will have to keep for a long time! and still be wondering if I would like the Bipole better.

Originally Posted by Paul Scarpelli

The Silver Surround isn't switchable. The problem with switching most dipole/bipole surrounds is when the speaker is in dipole position, the woofers are out of phase, resulting in almost total LF cancellation and a very thin sound. And dipoles aren't totally diffuse. I get directional cues from mine in both my theaters. And again, dipoles work better if the room is dead, the seating is spread out, the room is smallish, or all of the above.

You have to decide if you want the 9 lb. surround or the 16 lb. surround!

Originally Posted by Mopar_Mudder

Ya I really hate making these choices. The truth is my gut says to go with Triad, yours guys rep is very good and the Triad people and dealer (including yourself) have been great, guess it is the extra $700 that hurts

Just hard to sink alot of money into something that you can't even listen too. Then you look at 4 driver to 3 and tweeters and no tweeters and it just makes your head spin, guess I will through a dart.....

Originally Posted by Paul Scarpelli

The Triads use tweeters, but they're cone tweeters, and fairly costly ones. (I bet they cost more than the dome tweeters in the AT surrounds.) They're flat to 15 kHz, and they have better dispersion, plus we can run them lower in frequency, allowing us to use a better, single woofer and not have the bass cancellation problems. So there.

Keep in mind that paint matching is free, and you should take advantage of it for a much better look. We can match paint because we don't build these in China.

Atlantic has good products, though, and I would not throw them under the bus.

Originally Posted by Mopar_Mudder

I have a feeling that she might want them painted to match our ceiling which is Rustoleum American Accents Classic Bronze.

Originally Posted by Paul Scarpelli

Isn't that the primer color guys always used on their '69 Roadrunner 440 Six-Paks??

Get a physical paint sample or a paint number to your dealer at the time of order (if you buy Triad) and we'll nail the match.

Originally Posted by Mopar_Mudder

See that is what I like is to hear the facts because I really don't know what makes one better then the other, but I like to learn and know what makes them tick. I do understand that one really good thing can out perform 10 cheap things, plus I am all for made in America.

I have to find out what the wife wants to do for color, the rears will be in a wall covered with Achorage #2083 Coffee Bean and the sides are in a wall that we have a leather feux paint on (red and brown). I have a feeling that she might want them painted to match our ceiling which is Rustoleum American Accents Classic Bronze.

Originally Posted by Mopar_Mudder

Now you are talking my language, currenty working on restoring a 1971 Hemi Cuda. Although the new house stold about a years worth of work from it and the home theater is taking another 6 months, theater is more work then the house I think!

Originally Posted by HDvids4all

Hi Paul,

I PM'ed you the other day regarding the InWall Bronze & Silver/4 LCRs (as well as some others), your answers are much appreciated.

I'm thinking the Silver/4 LCRs are where I'm headed. Do you (or anyone else) have any information on the New Construction Brackets (size P I believe) that go with these? I'm inches away from finishing up my framing, but I need to readjust my front wall configuration to fit 3 of these where they need to go.

Thanks!

Originally Posted by baptiste

Hi - was wondering if Triad owners or hopefully Paul could provide some direction.

My wife and I recently moved into a new home and we have started laying out the living room arrangement. I have a 60" Sharp LED that I can't wait to hang up on the wall but I have lost ground on putting floor standing speakers and hanging surrounds in this room. She firmly put her foot down...and since I get the basement to build a dedicated room I don't have much room to push back.

So I'm investigating alternate options to still have some surround sound for the massive LED....basically trying to have my cake and eat it

The problem is the room has cathedral ceilings and is a very open floor plan. How would inwalls do here? Is it even worth it to try? Due to the room type and having no ability to control the environment with sound panels my expectitions are pretty low.

My goal, like many I'm sure, is to be able to enjoy a 5.1 surround sound experience that still meets the WAF. My budget is not going to allow for much since we have alot of expenses right now and honestly I would rather spend towards the dedicated room down the road. Realistically i'm probably going to have to stay in the Bronze price range.

Suggestions? Should I even bother since I have no control over the environment (panels, etc..) and just stick with small satellites? I really like the idea of going with Triad's inwalls but if the room is too challenging then I'll just reset my expectitions.

Originally Posted by Paul Scarpelli

You may have to move the TV over to the left 6" or so to avoid the stress-bearing structure and electrical you have in the wall next to the opening. If you're going to do a dedicated theater in the basement at a later date, I'd suggest three InWall Mini/4 LCRs at $500 each. They're fairly small, and they'll fit, plus the paint-matched grills will make them disappear. If you have room to hide either a Mini OmniSub ($500) or a Bronze OmniSub (better, at $650), and do a pair of Bronze Surrounds ($600 each), you'll have a great little system that will still kick pretty good.

Originally Posted by baptiste

thanks for the quick reply Paul - appreciate it!

Is the recommendation for the Mini's based on the small amount of available wall space? 7 inch for the mini's compared to 11 inches for the bronze?

Originally Posted by Paul Scarpelli

I was thinking wall space, yes. If you have room for the Bronze LCRs (and a Silver OmniSub), those will work better. If you have a budget for a system, I can tweak it a bit more.

Originally Posted by baptiste

I would have to take a look at the wall again and measure things out. I'm pretty sure I could get the light switches moved. Can't do much about the load bearing walls

Budget is a floating number at this point, I'll know more in the next week or two after I see the damage from the furniture shopping.

I know I would probably need another receiver. I'm not sure how the Onkyo SR507 would handle a 4ohm load.

I'll also go to bat and see if a in-room sub would pass WAF...I know 100% the surrounds have to be in-wall and 75% on the front stage. I guess I can take some measurements of the bronze on-wall and make some cardboard cut-outs for her to mull over.

Thanks very much for the quick responses and advice - very helpful and a wonderful (hopefully soon) customer experience!

Originally Posted by baptiste

I would have to take a look at the wall again and measure things out. I'm pretty sure I could get the light switches moved. Can't do much about the load bearing walls

Budget is a floating number at this point, I'll know more in the next week or two after I see the damage from the furniture shopping.

I know I would probably need another receiver. I'm not sure how the Onkyo SR507 would handle a 4ohm load.

I'll also go to bat and see if a in-room sub would pass WAF...I know 100% the surrounds have to be in-wall and 75% on the front stage. I guess I can take some measurements of the bronze on-wall and make some cardboard cut-outs for her to mull over.

Thanks very much for the quick responses and advice - very helpful and a wonderful (hopefully soon) customer experience!

Originally Posted by oztech

I am not sure about the 507 but know for a fact the Silvers work very well
with an 805.

Originally Posted by Dan Hitchman

Paul,

How much are the CinemaPlus DSP 12" in-wall subs w/ext. amps like in the photo? What stud depth do you need?

Your website does need updating for your newer products...

Originally Posted by Paul Scarpelli

CinemaPlus products are almost always sold as a package, including a complete room design, consultation, and acoustical materials, so we don't list the components separately. An InWall Silver DSP Sub is $1,900, including the 500-watt RackAmp DSP 500; the same price as our regular InWall Silver DSP Sub. The enclosure requires 9" of depth inside the wall, and the sub is sold without a grill, designed for a cloth wall.

Originally Posted by Dan Hitchman

Sounds like the inwall silver DSP sub may be right up my alley!

Originally Posted by Dan Hitchman

Sounds like the inwall silver DSP sub may be right up my alley!

I take it, if ordering I'd want to ask for a Silver/9 DSP in-wall sub?

Originally Posted by Paul Scarpelli


Hey, if it were up to me, I'd GIVE this stuff away...

Originally Posted by Mopar_Mudder

Ok lets take a vote if it should be up to Paul

+1

Originally Posted by Paul Scarpelli

Oops, I quoted you wrong. The CinemaPlus version is $2,450 with the RackAmp 500 DSP. I'll honor the $1,900 price for as many as you want to buy, but you'll have to let me know ahead of time so I can work with the dealer.

Hey, if it were up to me, I'd GIVE this stuff away...

Originally Posted by Mopar_Mudder

See that is what I like is to hear the facts because I really don't know what makes one better then the other, but I like to learn and know what makes them tick. I do understand that one really good thing can out perform 10 cheap things, plus I am all for made in America.

I have to find out what the wife wants to do for color, the rears will be in a wall covered with Achorage #2083 Coffee Bean and the sides are in a wall that we have a leather feux paint on (red and brown). I have a feeling that she might want them painted to match our ceiling which is Rustoleum American Accents Classic Bronze.

Originally Posted by Dan Hitchman

Thank you, Paul! I'll take 10,000 of whatever you have in the warehouse, please!

Originally Posted by queendvd2

Too bad basic black doesn't work for you since AVS is clearancing some Triads. Check the sticky.