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post #3601 of 6133
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How come Toyota Prius has become LARGER? Darn Toyota.......bucking the system!!

Vehicles are mostly getting bigger, but powerplants have become smaller and more efficient (except for mine.) I remember car enthusiasts howling when cars had smog control in the early '80s and became neutered. The industry took several years to develop clean, efficient, powerful engines again, and today, automobile drivetrains are the best in history. Even the Prius continues to improve. Too bad it isn't American-made, which is a deal-killer for me, because it's a peach. I could see buying a Volt for our second car in a few years, though.

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BTW.......besides Silver Monitors or Gold Surrounds.....are there other Triad alternatives to use with Plats for surrounds?

<<<<< Thinking outside the box

The room (and budget) will determine what surrounds are best for certain front speakers. I've heard of setups that used five Platinum LCRs, but the room and seating have to be appropriate. I would say Silver Monitors are the best choice in a larger room that may not be properly treated acoustically. Silver Monitors use the same two Scan-Speak 5.25" mids and a similar Seas tweeter as the Platinum LCR, so there is a similar quality above 300 Hz or so.

Gold Surrounds would be my first choice in a smaller room that's acoustically treated, or at the least, acoustically dead. Another extravagant choice for surrounds might be Gold Monitors, at $3,800-$3,900 each, because the tweeter has uncommonly broad dispersion in the upper octaves. Most tweeters "beam" as the frequency goes up, and at 20 kHz, they have the dispersion pattern of a Maglite. Because of the phase plug on the center of the dome, the R-29 Scan-Speak tweeter has broader dispersion up high. Gold Monitors will sound "splashy" in an untreated room. Mine sound so good, I've had them for eight years, and I have no plans of selling them for anything else. Not yet.

So, the short answer to your question is "no."
post #3602 of 6133
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Originally Posted by Paul Scarpelli View Post

Vehicles are mostly getting bigger, but powerplants have become smaller and more efficient (except for mine.) I remember car enthusiasts howling when cars had smog control in the early '80s and became neutered. The industry took several years to develop clean, efficient, powerful engines again, and today, automobile drivetrains are the best in history. Even the Prius continues to improve. Too bad it isn't American-made, which is a deal-killer for me, because it's a peach. I could see buying a Volt for our second car in a few years, though.

Great cars and great speakers... Paul, my man, you are livin' the dream!

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Originally Posted by Paul Scarpelli View Post

The room (and budget) will determine what surrounds are best for certain front speakers. I've heard of setups that used five Platinum LCRs, but the room and seating have to be appropriate. I would say Silver Monitors are the best choice in a larger room that may not be properly treated acoustically. Silver Monitors use the same two Scan-Speak 5.25" mids and a similar Seas tweeter as the Platinum LCR, so there is a similar quality above 300 Hz or so.

I took Paul's advice and went with Silver Monitors. I couldn't be happier. The timbre-match is excellent. I have them crossed at 120 Hz, but I have 3 subs placed around the room, so sub localization is not an issue. I would do it again. Is that endorsement enough?

Craig
post #3603 of 6133
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Originally Posted by Paul Scarpelli View Post

It would be helpful if you could post a picture, drawing, or diagram. I can't really visualize this very well from your description. How big is the room, how tall are the ceilings, how far back do you sit, what electronics are you using, how loud do you listen, etc. In general, if you wanted to maintain great fidelity and you won't listen much above reference level, three InCeiling Gold/8 MiniMonitors ($2,000 each) would work nicely. I have three of them across the front in my 2,200 cubic foot office. Again, I can make a better recommendation if you fill in more info.

The invisible boundary is 14 (length)x20(width)X10 (height) 2800 Cubic feet. The length contentious further to a bigger room. There is also about 15 more feet on one of the width side. Can I mix the L&R with Silver inwalls and use the inceiling for my Center? Or I might be able to squeeze a inwall mini 4 (vertical mount) for a Center. I'm Ok with going all inceiling if it's a better option. I don't care for loud music but more for clarity and depth.
post #3604 of 6133
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Originally Posted by solitude View Post

The invisible boundary is 14 (length)x20(width)X10 (height) 2800 Cubic feet. The length contentious further to a bigger room. There is also about 15 more feet on one of the width side. Can I mix the L&R with Silver inwalls and use the inceiling for my Center? Or I might be able to squeeze a inwall mini 4 (vertical mount) for a Center. I'm Ok with going all inceiling if it's a better option. I don't care for loud music but more for clarity and depth.

I'm not sure what your budget is or what you're using for subs. (Sorry if I missed all that further upstream in this thread.)

First of all, identical front speakers at the same height is preferable. If they can't be at the same height, then at least they have to be the same speaker, or, in the case of Triad, a version of the same speaker (InWall, OnWall, InCeiling, etc.)

Based upon this new information, your best choice (not the cheapest) would be three Silver MiniMonitors up front. The outer perimeter of the frame of the InWall Silver/4 MiniMonitor is less than 13" x 8". It's the size of a laptop screen. At least, the one I'm looking at.

The Silver MiniMonitor uses one of the 5.25" Scan-Speak mids used in the $7,500 Platinum LCR, and the same tweeter (I believe) as the Gold LCR and Silver Monitor. Detail is astonishing. They don't handle lots of power below 150 Hz or so, so I recommend a 100 Hz crossover, or 120 Hz if you want a few more dB of headroom. I know of nothing this small that sounds this good, providing you have a sub and you don't expect very high output. There is an InCeiling version and an InRoom version, as well. If you can do three InWalls across the front, that will give you the best soundstage. The InWall version of the Silver MiniMonitor is $1,400, the InRoom is $1,250, and the InCeiling is $1,500, all with a 10-year warranty and custom paint matching of the grill and frame at no additional cost. If at all possible, do it right.

http://www.triadspeakers.com/products/iws4mm.html

Silver LCRs don't have an InCeiling version, and system output is usually determined by how much output you can get from the center, which gets most of the abuse. Putting Silver LCRs left and right doesn't buy you anything if you have a small center, they don't quite have the startling clarity of the Silver MiniMonitors, and they are more physically imposing.

Unless you come back with additional information that precludes me recommending Silver MiniMonitors for your situation, they are my pick. Again, the reasons are: Small size allowing all three to be InWall and close to the same plane. Small, unimposing, paint-matched grills and frames for a great look. Very precise midrange and highs for outstanding clarity and realism.
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Hi Paul,
Crystal clear. I was thinking about an Artison inwall RCC 600 SM Sub. But I'm open to other suggestions. Thanks for you input again.
post #3606 of 6133
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Originally Posted by Paul Scarpelli View Post

I'm not sure what your budget is or what you're using for subs. (Sorry if I missed all that further upstream in this thread.)

First of all, identical front speakers at the same height is preferable. If they can't be at the same height, then at least they have to be the same speaker, or, in the case of Triad, a version of the same speaker (InWall, OnWall, InCeiling, etc.)

Based upon this new information, your best choice (not the cheapest) would be three Silver MiniMonitors up front. The outer perimeter of the frame of the InWall Silver/4 MiniMonitor is less than 13" x 8". It's the size of a laptop screen. At least, the one I'm looking at.

The Silver MiniMonitor uses one of the 5.25" Scan-Speak mids used in the $7,500 Platinum LCR, and the same tweeter (I believe) as the Gold LCR and Silver Monitor. Detail is astonishing. They don't handle lots of power below 150 Hz or so, so I recommend a 100 Hz crossover, or 120 Hz if you want a few more dB of headroom. I know of nothing this small that sounds this good, providing you have a sub and you don't expect very high output. There is an InCeiling version and an InRoom version, as well. If you can do three InWalls across the front, that will give you the best soundstage. The InWall version of the Silver MiniMonitor is $1,400, the InRoom is $1,250, and the InCeiling is $1,500, all with a 10-year warranty and custom paint matching of the grill and frame at no additional cost. If at all possible, do it right.

http://www.triadspeakers.com/products/iws4mm.html

Silver LCRs don't have an InCeiling version, and system output is usually determined by how much output you can get from the center, which gets most of the abuse. Putting Silver LCRs left and right doesn't buy you anything if you have a small center, they don't quite have the startling clarity of the Silver MiniMonitors, and they are more physically imposing.

Unless you come back with additional information that precludes me recommending Silver MiniMonitors for your situation, they are my pick. Again, the reasons are: Small size allowing all three to be InWall and close to the same plane. Small, unimposing, paint-matched grills and frames for a great look. Very precise midrange and highs for outstanding clarity and realism.

Hi Paul,
Crystal clear. I was thinking about an Artison inwall RCC 600 SM Sub. But I'm open to other suggestions. Thanks for you input again.
post #3607 of 6133
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Originally Posted by solitude View Post

Hi Paul,
Crystal clear. I was thinking about an Artison inwall RCC 600 SM Sub. But I'm open to other suggestions. Thanks for you input again.

With a -3 dB point at a relatively high 52 Hz, I would call that a "woofer," and not a "subwoofer." You give up a lot to fit the sub into a 4" stud space. The Triad SlimSub is similar in performance, with two enclosures (10" drivers) and an amp for $1,900. For a big space, I wouldn't really recommend either. If you want built-in, and you can go into the ceiling, a Triad InCeiling Silver/15 DSP Sub is a little less money than the Artisan, and features a 12" long-throw driver in a heavy cabinet (60 lbs.), and has a -3 dB point of 20 Hz. You won't have to apologize for bass or endure popping noises. I like the Artisan product, as well as our SlimSubs, but a theater venue in a large space may be beyond their capability. Don't interpret my comments as critical of Artisan. They make superb products, but this is probably not the best for the application.
post #3608 of 6133
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Originally Posted by solitude View Post

Hi Paul,
Crystal clear. I was thinking about an Artison inwall RCC 600 SM Sub. But I'm open to other suggestions. Thanks for you input again.

I must have OCD as I've researched every detail/process of putting together a high performing DT...........

For in-wall subs which are high performing in a small package look at:

B&G Radia BGX-S12B In-Wall System..........a tab bit more dough... massive output in a small package. Had a listen several weeks ago.......I can say a very capable system for a room <3000 ft^3. Two subs with matching amp MSRP $3500.......four subs with two matching amps will reach THX levels for a room apx 3000 ft^3.....MSRP $7000.

Procella Audio has a 10" sub that might fit the bill... MSRP at $1499, but the DA-1400 matching amp is not available yet and I can imagine the price will be high!

I've also looked at using Velodyne IF/IC with their matching 1000 watt amp with DSP, but depth is a major issue........10 inches. I'm trying to fit subs into columns rather than a wall.

The Triad Silver sub Paul suggested is excellent! I've had a listen.....better product than the Velodyne IF/IC but in my application, the Silver sub is too deep to fit into a column........I've also thought of using this sub in the riser! The only problem with that concept, I hate stepping into Chukar holes!!!

I know this is a Triad thread...........trying to be helpful.
post #3609 of 6133
Here's a picture of the Triad DSP Sub lineup, not showing OmniSubs. You can see how extensive the InWall/InCeiling sub lineup is. If you have 6" of depth, I really like the InWall Bronze/6 DSP Sub, and multiples thereof. If you do three of them ($1,400 x 3 = $4,200) you can rock the Casbah, and hit THX levels in a 3,000 cubic ft. room. And unlike other built-in subs, many of which have little response below 50 Hz, the Bronze is down 3 dB at 25 Hz. (With room gain, they often measure flat to 20 Hz.) Also, we've been selling versions of these for over fifteen years, and the feedback has always been great. Triad has sold more custom built-in subwoofers than any other company.



I welcome comparisons to other brands in a Triad thread. If there's something proven and better, or a better value, post it up. We've just done more of this and for a longer period of time, and that gives us an (unfair) advantage.
post #3610 of 6133
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Originally Posted by Paul Scarpelli View Post

Here's a picture of the Triad DSP Sub lineup, not showing OmniSubs. You can see how extensive the InWall/InCeiling sub lineup is. If you have 6" of depth, I really like the InWall Bronze/6 DSP Sub, and multiples thereof. If you do three of them ($1,400 x 3 = $4,200) you can rock the Casbah, and hit THX levels in a 3,000 cubic ft. room. And unlike other built-in subs, many of which have little response below 50 Hz, the Bronze is down 3 dB at 25 Hz. (With room gain, they often measure flat to 20 Hz.) Also, we've been selling versions of these for over fifteen years, and the feedback has always been great. Triad has sold more custom built-in subwoofers than any other company.

I welcome comparisons to other brands in a Triad thread. If there's something proven and better, or a better value, post it up. We've just done more of this and for a longer period of time, and that gives us an (unfair) advantage.

Is the CinemaPlus version of the Silver sub in the picture? Looks like a beauty contest.
post #3611 of 6133
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Originally Posted by doublewing11 View Post

Is the CinemaPlus version of the Silver sub in the picture? Looks like a beauty contest.

No, the CinemaPlus version of the Silver DSP Sub isn't in the picture. Neither are the three OmniSubs. I think Triad has a pretty complete line of subs, actually.
post #3612 of 6133
Here are three CinemaPlus Silver DSP Subs, stacked in the middle of one wall of our massive 2009 CEDIA demo. Each wall had three of them, a total of twelve, each driven by a 500 watt amp. The idea was to make the sub shallow without giving up internal volume, in order to do a cloth covering over the speakers for a clean theater look.



Here's a smaller theater with cloth-covered walls which hide all the speakers.

post #3613 of 6133
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Originally Posted by Paul Scarpelli View Post

Here are three CinemaPlus Silver DSP Subs



Those are 15" drivers right? What is the up-charge from standard Silver IF/IC sub? Who owns the intellectual property.....ie. Triad or PMI? Are CinemaPlus versions readily available to end user?

On Triad site, the CinemaPlus Silver sub is stated to be 8" in depth with 500 watt DSP amp.........is that correct?

BTW, I can see using three balancing subs.......not TWELVE!!!!
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Originally Posted by doublewing11 View Post

Those are 15" drivers right? What is the up-charge from standard Silver IF/IC sub? Who owns the intellectual property.....ie. Triad or PMI? Are CinemaPlus versions readily available to end user?

On Triad site, the CinemaPlus Silver sub is stated to be 8" in depth with 500 watt DSP amp.........is that correct?

BTW, I can see using three balancing subs.......not TWELVE!!!!

Those are 12" long-throw drivers. I don't have a current upcharge, but I'll find out. The CinemaPlus product is Triad. As far as "readily available," all our American stuff is built to order, so a CinemaPlus sub shouldn't take any longer than an InRoom or InWall. Products generally ship within 5 work days of the order arriving at the factory. (We're not responsible for delays between the time you place an order with the dealer and the dealer gets the order to us.) The CinemaPlus DSP Subs are now sold with the 600-watt amplifier.
post #3615 of 6133
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Originally Posted by Paul Scarpelli View Post

Those are 12" long-throw drivers. I don't have a current upcharge, but I'll find out.

Thanks Paul for your fact finding............

There's three things in life I'm sure of............death..........taxes..........and Paul getting back to you in quick order!!!
post #3616 of 6133
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Originally Posted by doublewing11 View Post

Thanks Paul for your fact finding............

There's three things in life I'm sure of............death..........taxes..........and Paul getting back to you in quick order!!!

Okay, here are the U.S. prices for Silver DSP Subs...

InRoom Silver DSP Sub with RackAmp600...$1,900.
InWall Silver/15 DSP Sub with RackAmp600...$1,900.
Silver FlexSub with RackAmp600 (no grill kit)...$2,350.
CinemaPlus Silver DSP Sub with RackAmp600...$2,100.

The 600-watt plate amp is not available; just the RackAmp600.

The Silver FlexSub S-sized grill kit is $160.
The Silver FlexSub Vent grill kit is $310.
post #3617 of 6133
Merry Christmas, everyone! I appreciate the animated, civil, informative, entertaining discourse we've had here for the past years, and I want to wish everyone a great holiday with friends, family, and even those who qualify as both! I hope your Triad speakers enhance the holiday mood, too!
post #3618 of 6133
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Originally Posted by Paul Scarpelli View Post

Merry Christmas, everyone! I appreciate the animated, civil, informative, entertaining discourse we've had here for the past years, and I want to wish everyone a great holiday with friends, family, and even those who qualify as both! I hope your Triad speakers enhance the holiday mood, too!

Merry Christmas to you too.............

post #3619 of 6133
So I finally have had the opportunity to get my InCeiling Silver MiniMonitors installed and they are amazing in every aspect including construction, ease of installation, and sound quality!

My house will be a Triad home, time to upgrade and add!
post #3620 of 6133
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Originally Posted by cdepaola View Post

So I finally have had the opportunity to get my InCeiling Silver MiniMonitors installed and they are amazing in every aspect including construction, ease of installation, and sound quality!

My house will be a Triad home, time to upgrade and add!

Great news! I love having Triad all over the house. (Listened to a Reference Recordings version of the Rachmaninoff Concerto in D-minor this morning. Nice.)
post #3621 of 6133
Paul how much room do u need behind a at sceen for subs or is just a bad idea? How would two in-wall bronze dsp subs work with gold lcr, the room is less then 2400 cu feet not deicated.
post #3622 of 6133
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Originally Posted by Rev75 View Post

Paul how much room do u need behind a at sceen for subs or is just a bad idea? How would two in-wall bronze dsp subs work with gold lcr, the room is less then 2400 cu feet not deicated.

Another member told me he needed about 10inches or so for the sub but to avoid it if possible.

I suggest at least a pair of the silver DSP subs with the Gold LCR's
post #3623 of 6133
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Originally Posted by adidino View Post

Another member told me he needed about 10inches or so for the sub but to avoid it if possible.

I suggest at least a pair of the silver DSP subs with the Gold LCR's

I agree with the minimum of 10" between a sub and the back of an AT screen, or during "The Dark Knight" the screen will be flapping like a sail in the wind.

The sub recommendation also depends upon how loud you'll listen, and where the subs are placed. NEVER install an inwall sub far above the floor, unless you're going to do four or more of them. I'd avoid putting a sub behind an AT screen mostly because it would have to be away from a second boundary (floor, adjacent wall, or ceiling.)
post #3624 of 6133
Paul ok forget putting it behind the screen. How would two of the bronze inwall subs work with gold lcr. I don't listen at ref most of the time but like it fairly loud but not bone shaking. The subs would be mounted below the screen just above the floor.
post #3625 of 6133
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Originally Posted by Rev75 View Post

Paul ok forget putting it behind the screen. How would two of the bronze inwall subs work with gold lcr. I don't listen at ref most of the time but like it fairly loud but not bone shaking. The subs would be mounted below the screen just above the floor.

Those two subs won't keep up with Gold LCRs above reference level, and they'll start to limit and compress at reference with program material that's hot in the bass. Having them just above the floor will help. You may want to wire for three of those puppies, and see if you need another one after living with the system for a while. I have a single Bronze sub in a 2,170 cu. ft. room, and I get good fullness and extension until I play it over 102 dB. Leave the option open for a 3rd sub down the road, and you'll be okay.
post #3626 of 6133
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Originally Posted by Paul Scarpelli View Post

Those two subs won't keep up with Gold LCRs above reference level, and they'll start to limit and compress at reference with program material that's hot in the bass.

Does that equate to CinemaPlus Silver Subs too?

I've read somewhere- Harmon white papers (could be wrong on source)- which clearly stated 4 subs placed at mid line in a rectangular room was as good as it gets.............even better than an infinite number of woofers placed randomly in a room.

I ponder what 3 CinemaPlus Silver subs for sides/back wall and one or two Platinum subs for the front would sound like.............

The 8" depth of the CinemaPlus Silver sub is looking very promising.......
post #3627 of 6133
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Originally Posted by doublewing11 View Post

Does that equate to CinemaPlus Silver Subs too?

I was referring to two Bronze InWall subs. Two Silvers, in any configuration, would work nicely. And keep in mind we chose the Silver for CinemaPlus applications because of their shallow depth. The CinemaPlus systems use multiple subs; between four and twelve; mostly to even out response in the room.

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I've read somewhere- Harmon white papers (could be wrong on source)- which clearly stated 4 subs placed at mid line in a rectangular room was as good as it gets.............even better than an infinite number of woofers placed randomly in a room.

That wasn't Harman; that was PMI's Tony Grimani. (I've worked with both entities.) Four subs (or multiples) placed at the center point of each of the four walls is what CinemaPlus suggests. This yields the lowest amount of bass with the most even response throughout the room. Compensating for the lower bass level, we use multiples; four, eight, or twelve subs. The highest bass level, with the most peaks, is with corner placement. Lyngdorf (with whom I've also worked) believes in corner placement, and then using EQ to flatten the peaks. Both approaches work, and in my theater, I use neither.

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I ponder what 3 CinemaPlus Silver subs for sides/back wall and one or two Platinum subs for the front would sound like.............

Yup, that's similar to Tony's setup. You have to calibrate the Silvers lower, though, because they'll run out of beans before the Platinums do.

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The 8" depth of the CinemaPlus Silver sub is looking very promising.......

If I were doing my room over (I am not) I would do three InWall Gold Monitors mounted ON the wall, and four CinemaPlus Silver DSP Subs, also wall-mounted on the same wall, and then use a grid and cloth wall to hide everything.
post #3628 of 6133
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I've read somewhere- Harmon white papers (could be wrong on source)- which clearly stated 4 subs placed at mid line in a rectangular room was as good as it gets.............even better than an infinite number of woofers placed randomly in a room

The work and published paper by Welti & Devantier does not say that. Basically, 5000 subs is best (not practical); but, 4 subs either in the corners or mid-points of the walls, provide the similar result of *consistent* bass response in the seating area. Not smooth, not the best, *consistent*. The advantage of *consistent* is facilitating effective calibration to bring bass response into line at the seating positions. Combining the Welti research with that of Lemay, we find that multiple subs in a room approximate the response of a single sub located at the acoustic mid-point of the subs.

If you plan to use FOUR CinemaPlus silvers plus a Platinum Sub, I would suggest either cross the silvers over with the Platinum or use a low pass filter to the Plat. You then have the advantage granted by four subs plus the low end power of the Plat(s). Certainly somewhere between 4 and 8 Plats would do the trick.

Just my penny ... but, if you're going to do this, you'll need (a) a very good calibrator and (b) a competent outboard 5 to 8 channel DSP. (It could be done with the DSP's in the Triad subs but something like the QSC DSP322 will cut your time by 2/3rds and give you some additional capabilities.
post #3629 of 6133
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Originally Posted by Dennis Erskine View Post

The work and published paper by Welti & Devantier does not say that. Basically, 5000 subs is best (not practical); but, 4 subs either in the corners or mid-points of the walls, provide the similar result of *consistent* bass response in the seating area. Not smooth, not the best, *consistent*. The advantage of *consistent* is facilitating effective calibration to bring bass response into line at the seating positions. Combining the Welti research with that of Lemay, we find that multiple subs in a room approximate the response of a single sub located at the acoustic mid-point of the subs.

If you plan to use FOUR CinemaPlus silvers plus a Platinum Sub, I would suggest either cross the silvers over with the Platinum or use a low pass filter to the Plat. You then have the advantage granted by four subs plus the low end power of the Plat(s). Certainly somewhere between 4 and 8 Plats would do the trick.

Just my penny ... but, if you're going to do this, you'll need (a) a very good calibrator and (b) a competent outboard 5 to 8 channel DSP. (It could be done with the DSP's in the Triad subs but something like the QSC DSP322 will cut your time by 2/3rds and give you some additional capabilities.

Always great to hear from Erskine.

I'm not advocating one sub scenario over another, because most of them can be made to work. At Triad, I used to advocate using a biamped sub system with multiple Silvers handling the 40-80 Hz range, and a few Platinums handling 18-40 Hz. The best advice Erskine just gave is to use more subs. The more you can use (and scatter) the better. To achieve the same SPL, you cut the cone excursion so much the bass has no extra bloom or boom. It's like a shockwave of bass.

The biggest problem for me is dealing with latency and different arrival times of multiple subs. It can get very tricky. You can overcome most bass issues simply by using "too many" subs, and then flattening peaks with EQ. I don't like using EQ to boost nulls, though. It really saps headroom.

And, as usual, I defer to the infinite and baffling wisdom of Erskine.
post #3630 of 6133
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Originally Posted by Paul Scarpelli View Post

Always great to hear from Erskine.
And, as usual, I defer to the infinite and baffling wisdom of Erskine.

A little known fact about Dennis is he is a "Middlebury" graduate! I have great respect for any Middlebury graduate!

What a quintessential college..........8 or 9 years ago, my daughter and I traveled looking for schools on the East Coast ie. Williams, Amherst, Yale, Dartmouth
.....she eventually settled on Dartmouth, yet Middlebury was one of my favorites!



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Originally Posted by Paul Scarpelli View Post

If I were doing my room over (I am not) I would do three InWall Gold Monitors mounted ON the wall, and four CinemaPlus Silver DSP Subs, also wall-mounted on the same wall, and then use a grid and cloth wall to hide everything.

I would love to do 3 Gold Monitors for the front stage.......my absolute favorite sounding speakers! The problem is.............4500 ft^3 room is too much to handle for those amazing speakers!

Plats on the menu...........
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