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post #4561 of 6133
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Originally Posted by adidino View Post

Awesome news. You can reach out to me anytime.
I owned the Gold LCR's prior to the Plats. Very good speaker but if you want to get kicked in the gut, the Plats are the only answer right now. Besides, that's a nice sized room. You need Plats smile.gif

Thanks Tony,

I'm not trying to be a copy cat, but Triad Plats.........Sony 1000...............Seymour AV Enlightor 4k or XD.............seems to me I'm following your footsteps.

Funny thing, I'm actually considering a speaker I've never heard! What am I thinking? I've heard the Gold LCR and Gold Monitors...............IMHO, the Gold Monitors are at another level compared to Gold LCR . What I've been told is the Plats behave more like the Gold LCR, which is a little disappointing to me.............I'd be happy if they sounded more like the Gold Monitors. smile.gif If you don't mind, I'll send a few PM's to pick your brain..................

I've done my homework.........had enough time to do so! Two and one-half years is a long time to research! As soon as I close, I'll send my CAD drawings to Dennis and let him add his special sauce-this is going to be fun! smile.gif
post #4562 of 6133
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Originally Posted by doublewing11 View Post

Thanks Tony,
I'm not trying to be a copy cat, but Triad Plats.........Sony 1000...............Seymour AV Enlightor 4k or XD.............seems to me I'm following your footsteps.
Funny thing, I'm actually considering a speaker I've never heard! What am I thinking? I've heard the Gold LCR and Gold Monitors...............IMHO, the Gold Monitors are at another level compared to Gold LCR . What I've been told is the Plats behave more like the Gold LCR, which is a little disappointing to me.............I'd be happy if they sounded more like the Gold Monitors. smile.gif If you don't mind, I'll send a few PM's to pick your brain..................
I've done my homework.........had enough time to do so! Two and one-half years is a long time to research! As soon as I close, I'll send my CAD drawings to Dennis and let him add his special sauce-this is going to be fun! smile.gif
I've heard all 3 speakers, and my personal favorite is the Platinums. IMO, it has all the SQ of the Gold Monitors with a *lot* more output. The Gold Monitors start to sound "strained" at the levels I like to listen at. The Plat's are just loafing along at those levels... no strain, no distortion, no muss, no fuss. smile.gif

You don't mention subs? They are essential to the experience. The Plat's need 'em as they're designed as an LCR speaker, with a -3 dB point of 60 Hz.

If you're doing an AT screen, be sure to use 3 LCR's. I love my CC, but a 3rd LCR would have better off-axis response.

Put a link to your build thread in your signature so we can follow along. smile.gif

Craig
post #4563 of 6133
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Originally Posted by craig john View Post

I've heard all 3 speakers, and my personal favorite is the Platinums. IMO, it has all the SQ of the Gold Monitors with a *lot* more output. The Gold Monitors start to sound "strained" at the levels I like to listen at. The Plat's are just loafing along at those levels... no strain, no distortion, no muss, no fuss. smile.gif
You don't mention subs? They are essential to the experience. The Plat's need 'em as they're designed as an LCR speaker, with a -3 dB point of 60 Hz.
If you're doing an AT screen, be sure to use 3 LCR's. I love my CC, but a 3rd LCR would have better off-axis response.
Put a link to your build thread in your signature so we can follow along. smile.gif
Craig

No I didn't mention subs.................my DD-12 is going to my wife...........she can now use it listening to her Christian radio station.

As far as subs go, I'm not sure.............my favorite sub I've heard was a DYI TC Sounds LMS-5400 ultra. Sounded very much like a DD-18 but with so much more output. I'm open to suggestions....................though I must admit, I prefer subs that use rack mount amps.
post #4564 of 6133
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Originally Posted by worldwide View Post

I'm looking at in-walls for an LCR system.
What are the differences in the Gold minimonitor and the Silver 6 monitor?
I like to avoid the crossover between bass/mid drivers and prefer two ways.
Thanks.

Apparently, I am not being notified of new posts to this thread. I apologize for my protracted absence. I have chosen "immediately" in the box that asks "Get notified when others reply?" but I'm not being notified, even in my spam folder. Anyway...

The Silver Monitor IS a 2-way speaker, but it uses two mids that work in tandem. There is no crossover between the two 5.25" Scan-Speak mids. It doesn't extend as deep into the bass, but it's at least 3 dB more sensitive (actually, closer to 5 dB) than the Gold MiniMonitor. For an LCR, I would probably use the Silver/6 or Silver/4 Monitors because they play louder and bass isn't a concern for an LCR. The Gold MiniMonitor can be used full-range in a small-venue audiophile system, and it's spectacular, with decent bass down to 45 Hz. I use a pair in my 2-channel room. I do, however, use three Gold MiniMonitors for LCRs in my office, but I use the InCeiling Gold/8 version because they're smaller, and I don't have to pulverize myself in the office (which is now more of a drum room.) Both products use the same tweeter, and it's a sweetheart.
post #4565 of 6133
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Originally Posted by doublewing11 View Post

OK.................bad news..............I miss Paul with his sense of humor. Can understand why he is MIA regarding posting here at AVS. This thread seems to have lost its pazazz with his departure. Hope retirement is treating him well............wink.gif
Now the good news............after 2.5 years I've finally sold my home and have started a build thread ie. going over the process, planning etc. This new construction will participate in the local "Tour of Homes" and I plan to contact Triad personally to see it they might be interested in sending a Rep. for one day to show off their products.
The plan is to use either Plats or Gold LCR...........I'd love to use Gold Monitors, but the room is too big. Which speaker I plan to use will be based upon room and budget...........
Keeping fingers crossed............hope to close the 2nd week of November and am currently in the process of finalizing construction plans. For now, the room is 26ft X 17ft X 11ft.
Craig john/Tony.............I hope to read your insight.............and I hope not to disturb you too much with a few PM's. biggrin.gif

Your room is almost 5,000 cubic feet. That's big, and Gold Monitors or Gold LCRs will be maxxed when you're really showing off. (Or, you could take people for a nose-bleed ride in your Prius, first, just to build the excitement.wink.gif.) The Gold LCR plays maybe a dB and a half louder than the Gold Monitor. If you're going to all the expense and effort to do this, I implore you to do Platinum LCRs. I've heard them in a small room (mine) and big rooms, and they're special. The only reason I moved away from them was my seating position, at around 8', put me a bit too close. But they were still amazing. And there is something about sheer horsepower. To repeat myself ad infinitum, I haven't heard a speaker that both plays this loud and sounds this good. Does the Gold Monitor sound as good? Absolutely, but at what level? You need Platinums. Consider the design cost, construction, prewire, other components, yaddy, yaddy, yaddy, and spending the difference between Golds and Platinums isn't as significant. Then again...it isn't my money, so...tongue.gif

Have I steered anyone wrong yet here??
post #4566 of 6133
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Originally Posted by Paul Scarpelli View Post

Apparently, I am not being notified of new posts to this thread. I apologize for my protracted absence. I have chosen "immediately" in the box that asks "Get notified when others reply?" but I'm not being notified, even in my spam folder. Anyway...

I had the same problem Paul, turns out hotmail was filtering out any e-mails from the AVS so I switched my account to my gmail address and now it works fine. I have heard other ISP may do the same thing so you may want to try another email account.
post #4567 of 6133
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Originally Posted by mjaudio View Post

I had the same problem Paul, turns out hotmail was filtering out any e-mails from the AVS so I switched my account to my gmail address and now it works fine. I have heard other ISP may do the same thing so you may want to try another email account.

Thanks, but I check my spam folder a few times a day, and AVS Forum e-mails aren't there, either. I've had the same e-mail address for twenty years, and I'm keeping it for the duration. I didn't have this problem with the old version of AVS Forum. I'll just check back here more often. BTW, your message did appear in my spam folder, but the previous three or four entries did not.

I just read a great Gold LCR review, and I'll post it when I get the okay.
post #4568 of 6133
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Originally Posted by Paul Scarpelli View Post

Thanks, but I check my spam folder a few times a day, and AVS Forum e-mails aren't there, either. I've had the same e-mail address for twenty years, and I'm keeping it for the duration. I didn't have this problem with the old version of AVS Forum. I'll just check back here more often. BTW, your message did appear in my spam folder, but the previous three or four entries did not.
I just read a great Gold LCR review, and I'll post it when I get the okay.

This review? http://hometheaterreview.com/triad-inroom-gold-lcr-loudspeaker-reviewed/
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I may be missing it, but is there a way to find out pricing someplace? Or do I have to contact triad or a dealer? I am just trying to plan my room and would like to get a feeling for budget.

Thanks!

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post #4570 of 6133
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Originally Posted by rsmclay View Post

I may be missing it, but is there a way to find out pricing someplace? Or do I have to contact triad or a dealer? I am just trying to plan my room and would like to get a feeling for budget.
Thanks!
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

I think it would behoove Triad to at least list MSRP on their website, so a potential buyer has some feeling for costs. Also, it would at least ease a few worries that a potential dealer is not trying to price gouge you.

The ability to actually demo audio and video products from a dealer before a purchase seems to becoming more and more difficult each passing year. A sad state of affairs in the electronics and speaker industry. The customer should be armed with a little better information so they know what they're getting into.
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Why, yes , THAT review. biggrin.gif
post #4572 of 6133
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Originally Posted by Dan Hitchman View Post

I think it would behoove Triad to at least list MSRP on their website, so a potential buyer has some feeling for costs. Also, it would at least ease a few worries that a potential dealer is not trying to price gouge you.
The ability to actually demo audio and video products from a dealer before a purchase seems to becoming more and more difficult each passing year. A sad state of affairs in the electronics and speaker industry. The customer should be armed with a little better information so they know what they're getting into.

Many manufacturers of many high-end things can't put pricing on their websites because of their foreign markets; even Canada. In the past, it caused Triad all kinds of grief. With exchange rates, duties, customs, etc., foreign consumers would explode in the face of our distributors without understanding how imports work. PM me with any pricing requests; specific products, or the entire huge price guide. Or, e-mail Director of Sales Bruce Franklin at bfranklin@triadspeakers.com. If the United States was our sole market, we'd have MSRP up there.
post #4573 of 6133
Thanks Paul. I figured there had to be some reason. Unfortunately, tapatalk doesn't let me PM anyone for AVS. I will PM you for the entire price guide when I get home and to a computer where I can log in.

Thanks again!

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post #4574 of 6133
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Originally Posted by Dan Hitchman View Post

I think it would behoove Triad to at least list MSRP on their website, so a potential buyer has some feeling for costs. Also, it would at least ease a few worries that a potential dealer is not trying to price gouge you.
The ability to actually demo audio and video products from a dealer before a purchase seems to becoming more and more difficult each passing year. A sad state of affairs in the electronics and speaker industry. The customer should be armed with a little better information so they know what they're getting into.

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Originally Posted by Paul Scarpelli View Post

Many manufacturers of many high-end things can't put pricing on their websites because of their foreign markets; even Canada. In the past, it caused Triad all kinds of grief. With exchange rates, duties, customs, etc., foreign consumers would explode in the face of our distributors without understanding how imports work. PM me with any pricing requests; specific products, or the entire huge price guide. Or, e-mail Director of Sales Bruce Franklin at bfranklin@triadspeakers.com. If the United States was our sole market, we'd have MSRP up there.

Paul, I can understand the concern. However, I have been frustrated numerous times when I want to consider or recommend Triad speakers and I can't get any idea of their pricing. Mike from AVS sent me the price list for the US a while back, and I now refer to that. However, I don't get updates of pricing so I never know if it is current. Maybe a better solution would be they way Atlantic Technology has their website set up. They have a tab labeled "Where To Buy". Under that tab, they have separate tabs for "US Consumers" and "International Consumers". On the US Consumers page, they have a link to their US MSRP price list. http://www.atlantictechnology.com/default.asp?IsDev=False&NodeId=31 They also have a disclaimer about international markets and exchange rates, duties, tariffs, VAT's, shipping costs, etc., and direct all international pricing inquires to the international distributors. On the International Consumers page, they list all their international distributors by country, with contact information. http://www.atlantictechnology.com/default.asp?IsDev=False&NodeId=33 Could something like that address the issue?

Craig
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Originally Posted by craig john View Post

Paul, I can understand the concern. However, I have been frustrated numerous times when I want to consider or recommend Triad speakers and I can't get any idea of their pricing. Mike from AVS sent me the price list for the US a while back, and I now refer to that. However, I don't get updates of pricing so I never know if it is current. Maybe a better solution would be they way Atlantic Technology has their website set up. They have a tab labeled "Where To Buy". Under that tab, they have separate tabs for "US Consumers" and "International Consumers". On the US Consumers page, they have a link to their US MSRP price list. http://www.atlantictechnology.com/default.asp?IsDev=False&NodeId=31 They also have a disclaimer about international markets and exchange rates, duties, tariffs, VAT's, shipping costs, etc., and direct all international pricing inquires to the international distributors. On the International Consumers page, they list all their international distributors by country, with contact information. http://www.atlantictechnology.com/default.asp?IsDev=False&NodeId=33 Could something like that address the issue?
Craig

That might work, but I'm not the guy anymore. I'll pass this info to Bruce Franklin, with whom I spoke at length yesterday. It's more involved, though, and this isn't the venue for me to go into it in detail. I appreciate the feedback, and I'll speak with Triad about it. BTW, Price Guides are usually not updated for at least a year at a time. The last time we had a price change on a few products was early last year, when we dropped the price of all Bronze and Silver LCRs as well as the price on the Sats. There are also some availability issues. For example, the SlimSub isn't available due to a driver issue, and I don't know when that will change. That wouldn't apply to anyone here, because the SlimSub is (was) for background distributed audio applications.

Thanks, Craig.
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Paul,

Sent you a PM for the price guide...

Thanks!!!
post #4577 of 6133
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Originally Posted by rsmclay View Post

Paul,
Sent you a PM for the price guide...
Thanks!!!

Give me a day or so to get the latest documents, and I'll send you pricing. Thanks!
post #4578 of 6133
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Originally Posted by Paul Scarpelli View Post

Your room is almost 5,000 cubic feet. That's big, and Gold Monitors or Gold LCRs will be maxxed when you're really showing off. (Or, you could take people for a nose-bleed ride in your Prius, first, just to build the excitement.wink.gif.) The Gold LCR plays maybe a dB and a half louder than the Gold Monitor. If you're going to all the expense and effort to do this, I implore you to do Platinum LCRs. I've heard them in a small room (mine) and big rooms, and they're special. The only reason I moved away from them was my seating position, at around 8', put me a bit too close. But they were still amazing. And there is something about sheer horsepower. To repeat myself ad infinitum, I haven't heard a speaker that both plays this loud and sounds this good. Does the Gold Monitor sound as good? Absolutely, but at what level? You need Platinums. Consider the design cost, construction, prewire, other components, yaddy, yaddy, yaddy, and spending the difference between Golds and Platinums isn't as significant. Then again...it isn't my money, so...tongue.gif
Have I steered anyone wrong yet here??

Have you steered me wrong? Sure you have! Who needs a Porsche when you have a gas saving Prius! tongue.gif

BTW, I'm leaning Plats.............but something has to give! We downsized our home big time but we have climbed close to 2900 sq ft! Blame it on my sweet wife...............her sewing room is going to be bigger than my theater room! eek.gif

So I'm thinking of Plats and Gold Surrounds.........................saves on budget since 6 Silver Monitors might break the bank! Can't imagine how my Evo 403 will pair with the Plats.........eek.gif
post #4579 of 6133
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Originally Posted by doublewing11 View Post

Have you steered me wrong? Sure you have! Who needs a Porsche when you have a gas saving Prius! tongue.gif
BTW, I'm leaning Plats.............but something has to give! We downsized our home big time but we have climbed close to 2900 sq ft! Blame it on my sweet wife...............her sewing room is going to be bigger than my theater room! eek.gif
So I'm thinking of Plats and Gold Surrounds.........................saves on budget since 6 Silver Monitors might break the bank! Can't imagine how my Evo 403 will pair with the Plats.........eek.gif

Gold Surrounds work very well with Platinum LCRs, provided the room is properly treated. You'll get uniform coverage, but still with directional cues. It's a great surround speaker, and they'll keep up with Platinum LCRs. Few dipoles will.

Your amplifier; despite looking like a pseudo-futuristic Bauhaus toaster oven; is superb. 800 watts into 4 ohms might be enough power for Platinum LCRs. If not, just plug the Platinums directly into a wall socket. rolleyes.gif

How can a sewing room be bigger than a home theater? Are you planning on starting a business? Maybe manufacturing blue jeans?? That's a lot of real estate.
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Originally Posted by Paul Scarpelli View Post

How can a sewing room be bigger than a home theater? Are you planning on starting a business? Maybe manufacturing blue jeans?? That's a lot of real estate.

Room above a three car garage is cheap square footage..................funny thing, my wife wanted a bath in that room so my dedicated room went from 26 ft to 24ft at the snap of a finger..................happy wife, happy life. rolleyes.gif
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Originally Posted by craig john View Post

Put a link to your build thread in your signature so we can follow along. smile.gif
Craig

Like this?
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Hey Paul, It's been a while since I've posted on this forum. I just wanted to say thanks for all the advice you gave me last year. I ended up getting my Triads just under a year ago and I can't get enough of them. I wish I could just sit home all day and listen to music. I ended up getting In-wall Mini LCR's, In-wall Bronze Surrounds, some Sealed Rounds, In-room Mini OmniSub with an Integra DTR 30.3.

One quick question now smile.gif I didn't get the grills to match my paint and now I wish I did. Do I dare spray them myself or is there a way I could have you guys do it?

Thanks again!!!!!
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Originally Posted by funkapotomus View Post

Hey Paul, It's been a while since I've posted on this forum. I just wanted to say thanks for all the advice you gave me last year. I ended up getting my Triads just under a year ago and I can't get enough of them. I wish I could just sit home all day and listen to music. I ended up getting In-wall Mini LCR's, In-wall Bronze Surrounds, some Sealed Rounds, In-room Mini OmniSub with an Integra DTR 30.3.
One quick question now smile.gif I didn't get the grills to match my paint and now I wish I did. Do I dare spray them myself or is there a way I could have you guys do it?
Thanks again!!!!!

This is a problem. Because your grills have already been painted, they can't really be repainted without closing up the slices in the expanded metal. Custom colors are applied at the factory on grills that have been primed...but not previously painted. There are a few solutions. You can attempt to spray the inserts with a thin wash and hope for the best, but what you'll probably get is what I refer to as "The Krylon Nightmare." The grilles will look spotty. Or, you can order new inserts and have them paint matched, and paint the frames by hand. Check with your dealer, but our grill inserts aren't cheap. I wish there was a better solution.

Just as a caution to the rest of you; make sure you order your grills paint-matched because you can't go back and repaint them.
post #4584 of 6133
Good to know. It's not the end of the world.

My wife has been pushing me to spray them (even though she wanted them white in the first place smile.gif ) and I have been hesitant so now I have something to back me up. We all need a little back up every now and then, right?

Thanks for help.
post #4585 of 6133
Can someone tell me MSRP on In-ceiling Gold Omnis?
post #4586 of 6133
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Originally Posted by tbraden32 View Post

Can someone tell me MSRP on In-ceiling Gold Omnis?

Been a while........................from what I recall, close to $1000?
post #4587 of 6133
Each or for a pair?
post #4588 of 6133
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Originally Posted by tbraden32 View Post

Can someone tell me MSRP on In-ceiling Gold Omnis?

MSRP for the InCeiling Gold/8 Omni SE is $1050 each.

Let me know if you want to buy a few . :-)
post #4589 of 6133
There is no InCeiling Gold/6 Omni. The standard Omni line was replaced by the Sats two years ago. Only a few Omni SE models remain current. The InCeiling Gold/6 Omni was replaced by the InCeiling Silver/6 Sat, which is essentially the same speaker, but with improved drivers and a lower price: $500 each, including custom paint matching of the grill and frame. (The previous model was $600 each.)

The InCeiling Gold/8 Omni SE is still $1,050 each.
post #4590 of 6133
Much difference between the newer Gold and older Gold line? Double the price almost?
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