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post #4981 of 6133
Do they have as much fun in other speaker threads? Oh, I think not.
post #4982 of 6133
They don't have as good of speakers either. smile.gif

Craig
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Originally Posted by craig john View Post

They don't have as good of speakers either. smile.gif

Craig

Freakin braggart ... tongue.gifwink.gif

Your's may be gooder, but mine go LOUDER !!!
post #4984 of 6133
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Originally Posted by RMK! View Post

Freakin braggart ... tongue.gifwink.gif

Your's may be gooder, but mine go LOUDER !!!
"Whad he say?"

"I dunno. I couldn't hear him. Those Triad speakers are too LOUD!"

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post #4985 of 6133
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Originally Posted by craig john View Post

"Whad he say?"

"I dunno. I couldn't hear him. Those Triad speakers are too LOUD!"

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A race to deafness ... cool.gif

This Thread is more fun ... biggrin.gif
Edited by RMK! - 4/5/13 at 3:08pm
post #4986 of 6133
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Originally Posted by mankite View Post

I agree, my Gold Monitors in no way would work in your room and even if RMK had a room my size I doubt they'd work for him either as I know he listens at a way higher levels then I do. I wish I would have tried the Plats in my room when I had them but for now I'll just have to wonder. I'll probably never get to hear the Plats in my room because as most know I hate changing equipment......... Oh wait. smile.gif

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Originally Posted by RMK! View Post

I did not ...
It was Bunga99 (Claude) that I was referring to and, the Noesis are a SQ upgrade from the other JTR speakers. smile.gif
I would say my average listening volume is -10. Just this evening, we watched The Art of Flight as the post Thanksgiving dinner movie (BTW, great movie to show off speakers/subs) and I had the MV @ -15 ... So, you listen at a way lower level than that? ... really? wink.gif

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Originally Posted by RMK! View Post

Freakin braggart ... tongue.gifwink.gif

Your's may be gooder, but mine go LOUDER !!!

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Originally Posted by RMK! View Post

A race to deafness ... cool.gif

This Thread is more fun ... biggrin.gif

Which is it?!?
post #4987 of 6133
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Originally Posted by mankite View Post

Which is it?!?
It honestly doesn't matter.

Define "loud enough" for yourself. Then set the standard for sound quality for yourself. Then find speakers + amps that hit those criteria. Then try to find a way to pay for them.

For myself, I've found the "holy grail" in all the above criteria, (in no small part thanks to you, my friend.) smile.gif

Craig
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I do remember like it was yesterday you putting the first song on "Money for Nothing" and thinking in my head with in the first 30 seconds "What in God's name am I doing selling these"!!! Still waiting on my new Sound Anchor stand plates to play around with the Plats in my modest sized room. It will be fun seeing the drywall dust falling from the light fixtures. smile.gif
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Originally Posted by mankite View Post




Which is it?!?

Yes, so many contradictions ... tongue.gif

If you look a little deeper into some of those threads you will find my doing the Art of Flight at +10 and even +15. Those are short bursts of unbelievable sound power washing over you. Not good for your audio heath but BIG fun! Not many speakers can stay clean at those levels and staying clean makes them sound almost normal ...
post #4990 of 6133
I agree. Interestingly enough though while demoing movies at Craig's house the most impressive moment to me was while watching King Kong. We watched the scene when King Kong fights the T-Rex's. Even though the scene was intense, to me the most impressive part was after King Kong defeats them and is just standing there for a few seconds and you hear a bug pan from left to right in front of King Kong's face.

That right there is a perfect example of what matters to me most. Even though the bug flying around was very pronounced it never sounded forced like it was trying to draw attention to it. It just sounded like a bug was flying through the basement. That is what even fewer speakers can do and takes thing to a whole new level and realism.
post #4991 of 6133
It's not all that hard to design a speaker that will play loud. Most PA speakers or stage monitors will rip your ears off with volume, but they lack finesse and accuracy. Conversely, it's not that hard to design a 6.5" 2-way that's 84 dB sensitivity that sounds nice. The trick is cobbling together an accurate, uncolored speaker that will handle lots of power and that has good sensitivity so it will play loud with crisp dynamics. Triad engineer David Nelson has always tried to get the most out of his designs, with LCRs and Monitors at 90 dB, 92.5 dB, 94.5 dB, etc., with enormous instantaneous power handling. I can listen at +12 in my theater with Gold Monitors, but not for long periods of time. Gold LCRs and Platinum LCRs will play even louder. It's ideal to have an accurate, detailed, nuanced speaker that can still pin you to the back wall.

There are a lot of speakers out there that are nice polite 84 dB boxes. They sound nice, but they aren't visceral. Then there are a few high-sensitivity speakers that play very loud, but they can peel paint. The challenge is to develop speakers that play loud and maintain composure. The Silver Monitor, Gold Monitor, Gold LCR, and especially the Platinum LCR all accomplish this. There's something about listening to symphonic music at a realistic level and not having to grab the remote before "the loud part." I still know of no other speaker besides the Platinum LCR that will play that loud while sounding that good.
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I would love to hear the Platinum at some point. cool.gif
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Originally Posted by RMK! View Post

I would love to hear the Platinum at some point. cool.gif
If you're ever in Central PA, you have an open invitation, (although I can certainly understand if you never find yourself in Central PA) tongue.gif

I would love to hear the Noesis at some point. smile.gif In fact, are you playing yours right now? I think I hear them. biggrin.gif

Craig
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Originally Posted by craig john View Post

If you're ever in Central PA, you have an open invitation, (although I can certainly understand if you never find yourself in Central PA) tongue.gif

I would love to hear the Noesis at some point. smile.gif In fact, are you playing yours right now? I think I hear them. biggrin.gif

Craig

Thank you for the invitation Craig. Your's is one of the systems I would most like to hear and that is due as much to the careful setup, as the excellent equip choices. Of course quid pro quo on the invitation smile.gif.

We did watch Lincoln last night but at much lower levels than could be detected in Central PA ... As you (and Peter Parker) know, with great power, comes great responsibility. wink.gif
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Originally Posted by RMK! View Post

I would love to hear the Platinum at some point. cool.gif

Open invitation to my HT if you're in Northern Virginia. Platinum LCRs, Silver Surrounds, Bronze subs in a dedicated room with full acoustic treatment

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Originally Posted by curtisG View Post

Open invitation to my HT if you're in Northern Virginia. Platinum LCRs, Silver Surrounds, Bronze subs in a dedicated room with full acoustic treatment

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Thanks Curtis, I do occasionally get to DC on business and might take you up on that offer. cool.gif
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UPDATE:

Some of you may recall that Triad discontinued the InWall Bronze/4 SlimSub months ago due to unresolved problems with the 10" driver. The old SlimSub was a product I recommended only for adding some bass to a 2-channel distributed audio room, as it's output and extension were weak. It's nearly impossible to design a subwoofer that's 4" deep with a flush grill.

The good news is Triad has sourced a new proprietary driver that works very well, but it was a bit too deep. The solution was to cut out the MDF at the magnet structure and add a thin steel plate. This allows use of the new driver and still maintains the flush grill. The new Triad InWall Bronze/4 SlimSub performs at the same level as the standard InWall Bronze/6 DSP Sub, but installation options are far greater because it will fit into a standard 4" stud space. And while I never recommended the old SlimSub for home theater, I would recommend two, three, or four new SlimSubs in installations where there is no room for a freestanding sub and the walls are all 4" deep.

The InWall Bronze/4 SlimSub comes with a RackAmp 350, and the package retails for $1,400.

Here's a preliminary blurb...
http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/speakers/architectural/triad-inwall-bronze-4-slimsub-pre
post #4998 of 6133
As we approach 5,000 posts in this thread, I wanted to thank everyone for their participation all these years. You are a bright, civil bunch, and I can only recall one or two "problems" all this time. The questions have been of high quality, the contributions from the regulars have been valuable, and everyone has shown good manners, or, at the least, restraint. It has been my singular hope that those of you who have chosen Triad for your systems have been pleased with your decision, and I hope I've been able to help some of you, or at least kept you from making a mistake.

And I must say I have learned a great deal here. For example, I only recently learned that if you use two phantom centers, you'll have comb-filtering. biggrin.gif

I am still LOLZing at that one...
Edited by Paul Scarpelli - 4/7/13 at 5:23pm
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And I must say I have leraned a great deal. For example, I only recently learned that if you use two phantom centers, you'll have comb-filtering. biggrin.gif

I am still LOLZing at that one...

I'm confused...

Do you mean, if you use two of these:



you'll have this:



I am very confused by this. I want to LOL at this comment, but I don't get the joke. confused.gif

And what does it mean to have "leraned a great deal"? Did you leraned anything about spelling? biggrin.gif
post #5000 of 6133
I'm the 5,000th post. What do I win?
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I'm 5001
Cool !!!
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Originally Posted by jenkzy56 View Post

I'm 5001
Cool !!!

You've already won bigtime getting the Gold Lcrs over the Sho-10's! smile.gif
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Originally Posted by mankite View Post

I'm the 5,000th post. What do I win?

You win a pair of Triad phantom center speakers, which will only be awarded to you posthumously.

With this whole "phantom center" thing, I can see I missed a great April Fool's opportunity.
post #5004 of 6133
Looking forward to trying out the new SlimSubs. I may experiment with one for our bedroom. We currently have a Bronze Omni sub in a cabinet, and the cabinet door vibrates when we crank up the bass if it's closed.
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Originally Posted by Paul Scarpelli View Post

With this whole "phantom center" thing, I can see I missed a great April Fool's opportunity.
Last year on April Fool's day I started a thread on how to calibrate REW's SPL using a smoke detector, but it didn't gain any traction. biggrin.gif
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If you are using REW with a microphone you need to first calibrate REW's SPL with an SPL meter. Since that is the only purpose of the SPL meter, it seems a little bit of a financial waste.

I recently purchased some more smoke detectors and found that they emit an 85 dB signal (at 10 ft) at 3200 Hz. Here are the specs of the First Alert SA320CN. You can use the tones to set REW's SPL with a fair bit of accuracy.

Open REW's SPL Meter, click "Calibrate," and select "Use an external signal." Make sure you are set to C Weighting (all weightings are actually about the same at 3200 Hz) and Fast. Hold the microphone 1 ft from the smoke detector and press the test button. The signal will go in short bursts so you need to keep an eye on the SPL meter in REW and adjust until the peaks read 105 dB. If you are 10 ft away it will read 85 dB. Click "Finished" in REW when you are done setting the SPL Meter.
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Originally Posted by Dawn Gordon View Post

Looking forward to trying out the new SlimSubs. I may experiment with one for our bedroom. We currently have a Bronze Omni sub in a cabinet, and the cabinet door vibrates when we crank up the bass if it's closed.

Make no mistake, the new SlimSub is meant to be used to add bass to a pair of distributed audio speakers where there is only 4" of stud depth in the wall. But two SlimSubs will actually kick pretty good, and three or four (or more) would be appropriate in moderate-sized home theater applications where subs have to be installed into a 4" wall.
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Good to see the banter still going on.....................

Been a while since I've posted in this thread........most are probably happy not reading my sarcasm and wit! smile.gif

Funny story...........since selling the home, wife and I are living at the family ranch while the new home is being build. It's amazing how one misses technology as my mother-in-law will not allow the internet anywhere on the ranch. In her opinion...........it's the "work of the Devil" ie. internet!! Thank you Pat Robertson.........who by the way has a website! rolleyes.gif

So...........I'm finishing up with installation of OSB on clips and channels......next step is Green Glue and drywall. On that note, I requested Plats for my theater design yet Gold LCR's were spec-ed which was unusual to me. The room is semi-large........I suspect all acoustic treatments have been designed around the Golds. I have never heard the Plats..............I'd rather have Gold Monitors but understand Gold LCR's are more appropriate for the room. RMK has offered me a chance to listen to his Noesis speakers so I'm going to hear for myself...................am I going to the "Dark Side?" Who knows...................

My Quest acoustic treatments have been setting outside the garage on pallet until the drywall is done.........I'm concerned about three weeks out in the Northwest weather will degrade the panels. I'm hoping 3 layers of visqueen will do the trick.

My theater thread, "The Coffin Build" is DOA...................no pun intended. I've been too busy to do justice to that build thread and am getting to the final stages anyhow. I've got three weeks to finalize speakers..............I'm leaning Gold LCR since room was spec-ed that way though Plats were requested. One trip to RMK's house might change everything...................yikes!

BTW, I am going to use the Sony 1000 which is the only piece of equipment I'm solid with.....................
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Originally Posted by doublewing11 View Post

Good to see the banter still going on.....................

Been a while since I've posted in this thread........most are probably happy not reading my sarcasm and wit! smile.gif

Funny story...........since selling the home, wife and I are living at the family ranch while the new home is being build. It's amazing how one misses technology as my mother-in-law will not allow the internet anywhere on the ranch. In her opinion...........it's the "work of the Devil" ie. internet!! Thank you Pat Robertson.........who by the way has a website! rolleyes.gif

So...........I'm finishing up with installation of OSB on clips and channels......next step is Green Glue and drywall. On that note, I requested Plats for my theater design yet Gold LCR's were spec-ed which was unusual to me. The room is semi-large........I suspect all acoustic treatments have been designed around the Golds. I have never heard the Plats..............I'd rather have Gold Monitors but understand Gold LCR's are more appropriate for the room. RMK has offered me a chance to listen to his Noesis speakers so I'm going to hear for myself...................am I going to the "Dark Side?" Who knows...................

My Quest acoustic treatments have been setting outside the garage on pallet until the drywall is done.........I'm concerned about three weeks out in the Northwest weather will degrade the panels. I'm hoping 3 layers of visqueen will do the trick.

My theater thread, "The Coffin Build" is DOA...................no pun intended. I've been too busy to do justice to that build thread and am getting to the final stages anyhow. I've got three weeks to finalize speakers..............I'm leaning Gold LCR since room was spec-ed that way though Plats were requested. One trip to RMK's house might change everything...................yikes!

BTW, I am going to use the Sony 1000 which is the only piece of equipment I'm solid with.....................

Pleased allow me to introduce myself
I'm a man of wealth and taste
I've been around for a long, long year
Stole many a mans soul and faith
And I was round when jesus christ
Had his moment of doubt and pain
Made damn sure that pilate
Washed his hands and sealed his fate
Pleased to meet you
Hope you guess my name ...


Seemed appropriate considering your current living situation tongue.gifwink.gif. There should be some more Noesis reviews from the PA GTG that is taking place today.
Edited by RMK! - 4/13/13 at 10:10am
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Originally Posted by RMK! View Post

Pleased allow me to introduce myself
I'm a man of wealth and taste
I've been around for a long, long year
Stole many a mans soul and faith
And I was round when jesus christ
Had his moment of doubt and pain
Made damn sure that pilate
Washed his hands and sealed his fate
Pleased to meet you
Hope you guess my name ...


Seemed appropriate considering your current living situation tongue.gifwink.gif. There should be some more Noesis reviews from the PA GTG that is taking place today.

Let me guess........................Pat Robertson? wink.gif
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Let me guess........................Pat Robertson? wink.gif

In one of his many guises ... wink.gif
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