Triad Owner's Thread - Page 18

Paul, do you know if Triad will ever have an lcr thats fits between the gold and plat? looks like a large gap in the lineup to me. 4k a pair (msrp) vs if you have to ask... how about something in the 4k each range made for BIG 5.1/7.1 sound and would do a world class job with music plus still be avail to avg guys that put this stuff on a credit card and then try to hide it from the wife.

tony have you seen the new tyler stuff he has hired a "big gun" in audio to help him?

I love it when I actually have a good answer for someone. Our Monitor series is what you need. People forget about the Silver and Gold Monitors, and they work great as LCRs.

The apparent "large gap" in the product lineup to which you are refering is $7,000 for the Platinum LCR and $2,000 for the Gold LCR. However, there is an InRoom ($2,050), InCeiling ($2,450) and two InWall ($2,250) Silver Monitors, with the same sensitivity as the Gold LCRs and Gold Center. Then there is the InRoom Gold Monitor ($3,800) and the InWall Gold/6 Monitor ($3,900) that's also 92 dB sensitivity and will handle 500 watt unclipped peaks. The speaker you're looking for is the Gold Monitor. I use three of them across the front, with 375 watts going to each. I have all the headroom I will ever need in my theater, and peaks are uncompressed.

The Gold Monitor is capable of hitting 118 dB peaks at 1 meter, and it's just as dynamic as the Gold LCR. It uses three Scan-Speak drivers and the R2904 tweeter, which I believe (opinion) to be the best dome tweeter regardless of price. On the Madisound website, this tweeter sells for $398. You'll see lots of tweeters with the phase plug, but they are either copies or cheaper Scan-Speaks. Even the Krell LAT-1 ($37,500 a pair) uses a less-expensive version of this tweeter. Pardon my enthusiasm, but I've had these speakers for five years, and they never fail to amaze me. They do everything well.

Here are my three Gold Monnitors on optional Pedestals in the theater. A Screen Research motorized screen is in the "up" position in this pic. Those are InRoom Gold PowerSubs. The two 15" drivers blend well with the 7" mids in the Gold Monitors. I don't have a fancy theater, but it makes great sound and pictures, and the seating is comfy. Great place to watch a movie...

I am one of the lucky ones. My wife encourages me to (once in a while) buy expensive stuff for myself, because I'm usually pretty frugal. But I know for a fact that half of my bicycle racing friends have had to lie about how much their "new bike" cost. One friend spent $7,000 (that's barely a high end road bike) and told his wife it was "almost a thousand dollars." My Corvette friends often fudge how much they spend on mods so the little lady doesn't know. Hey, $10,000 for a Vortech supercharger is cheap, right??

If you can't hide your purchases, go the J.G. Wentworth route. Just walk up to your wife and scream "IT'S MY MONEY AND I NEED IT NOW!!" Grow a pair.

paul, thank you i was wondering can the gold monitor be turned on its side? i'm a plasma type guy and cant place my center vert. also, how would you describe the sound of the g monitor compared to the g lcr? i have good subs so not worried about anything below 60h but love to make my friends wonder why they ever paid to go out to the movies. i'm about 80/20 movies, tv / music and have a large room. been looking for new speakers to replace a revel sys that got sold to help build my new house and triad has been of interest to me for a while now.

You can't turn a Gold LCR on it's side, but a Gold Monitor works well on it's side, despite the protestations of all my purist friends. It works better vertically, but when I had a rear projection HDTV years ago, I had one on it's side on the top, and it worked well. Room acoustics are more important.

The Gold LCR and Gold Monitor sound similar, but the Gold Monitor lacks any color at all, and has more detail. The man on the street will not hear enough difference to justify the Monitor, but any novice audiophile can hear the difference. I've compared them side-by-side in my theater, and the Gold Monitors, to me, would be worth almost twice the money.

The problem is my wife likes expensive road/tri bikes as well. She just ordered a new one this weekend. So we have to trade off buying toys

I'm glad she doesn't want her own HT

Bob

Can someone please PM about the price for the Bronze/4 in-wall LCR? I don't have a local dealer.

The InWall Bronze/4 LCR (U.S. retail) is $700. I know that our national sales manager, Bruce Franklin, just did a Canada tour, and he may be able to help you. Call him this week at 1 860 657 9920.

Paul, do you still have that pic of all the lcr's lined up in a row at the show? if so, could you throw it up here again? I can't find it.

I don't have a good picture...just this one. I hope this helps.

Thank you.

can you tell me what the finish is on the Platinums and Gold? I'm looking for veneers for our showroom.

Can you tell that guy to get out of the way?

I can't tell, but they may be red rosewood. We bookmatch every speaker, and even veneer the back and bottom. It takes two hours to do each one, and I think they're stunning. Here's a close up of a smaller speaker in natural rosewood that shows the bookmatching. Mates of a speaker are veneered with consecutive veneer slices, so they match, too. That's what you can do when you build speakers to order in America.

Here are Mike Scarborough's Gold LCRs that we custom matched to his architectural millwork. These are a variation of our red rosewood. Notice the bookmatched finishes and how closely they match.

That's Ted Taylor from AV Audiovisions in Orange County. He's a big boy. If his partner Mark Hoffenberg (who like me is a bicycle racer) had been standing there, you would have seen all the speakers. Sorry Ted was eclipsing our display.

Here are two pair of InRoom Omni SE IS (integrated stand) models showing red rosewood and natural maple.

ty

Hi Paul,

Need some advise from you.

I would like my speaker placement like your theatre, please advise will it affect the sound quality.

I place from front LCR below the screen and though of putting the 2 subs between the LCR. Unfortunately my were Traid Passive Gold with 2 10" woofer firing opposite direction. They will be only appr 3 - 4 feet apart.
That mean one side of the woofer will be firing at each other will that affect the sound quality and since my speaker is below the screen therefore the center speaker are almost the same level with the sub and firing to the front.

To me it seem the sound wave are crossing each other path. Will that be ok.

thanks.

As long as both subs are in phase with each other, there is no issue with cancellations due to one or both sidefiring.

Paul, can you tell me what the price of three inwall silver/6 lcrs and 4 inwall silver/4 surrounds. I want them in white. Also, what type speaker wire do you recommend. I have a Denon 5308 to push them. I also have an M&K 350 sub.

Your M&K sub will be able to keep up with the Silver LCRs, and it'll work well. Good receiver choice, too.

The InWall Silver/6 LCRs are $1,100 each. You need 6" of stud depth, otherwise you'd use the InWall Silver/4 LCR, which is the same price. InWall Silver/4 Surrounds are $800 each.

Well, I was finally able to get all the speakers installed and have had about a week to test everything and I LOVE IT and it isn't even calibrated yet (video or audio). One question - when I power on my AVR (Rotel RSX-1057) or even just change the channel on my DirectTV system, I hear a small "pop" coming out of the speakers - any idea what is causing that?

Also, the dealer I purchased the Triad's from was the same place I purchased the Rotel (April 2007) and they indicated that it would push the speakers fine.

As always thanks in advance!

If it's a small pop, don't worry. If it's annoying, you might buy a power conditioner. That may help. I'm glad you like the system so far, though. Rotel works great with all Triad speakers.

Paul, now that the clock is ready to strike the 12th hour (supposed to order all my equipment today-chosen months ago) I am seriously considering going CIH with a cinescope screen.

As a refresher I am going Gold LCRs for fronts, two Gold subs, two gold surrounds-sides, two silver surrounds-rears.

I've only got 18" behind my false wall. Will that be enough room (not space-wise-it def fits) performance wise for the speakers to do their thing behind an AT screen. I thought I had read somewhere ideal is 24" behind. Do you recommend some kind of baffling around them or can I simply just shelf mount them right onto the false wall? What about placement of the LCRs? Would you recommend as wide as possible or keep them within a 1.78 scope? Not sure what scope size to go with. Originally had Stewart ST 110", with front row at 12'. Lastly, is it bad to mix gold and silver surrounds? Steep upgrade so I was trying to cheat by just going Gold for the sides, but I read somewhere ideal to keep consistent. Thanks.

With an 80 Hz crossover frequency, the Gold LCRs can be as close to the back of the screen as 4". My center is only 3" behind my Screen Research screen, and it measures fine. The InRoom Gold LCR is 12" deep, so this would place the speaker 2" from the back wall and 4" from the screen. Some EQ or digital correction would smooth out the slight elevation in the mis and upper bass due to the proximity effect. Of course, if the speakers are hidden behind the screen, you could do the InWall Gold/6 LCR, which is only 6" deep. This would allow placement 4" from the screen and 8" from the back of the speaker to the wall.

Place the left and right wide, but a few inches away from the screen frame so there's no interference.

Gold and Silver Surrounds may be mixed. Dipoles are diffuse enough that speaker differences or similarities are often obscured.

Thanks Paul. What about baffling. Do you suggest that around the LCRs?