Originally Posted by doublewing11
I came real close to purchasing the Noesis 212's..................but when reality set in, there was no way I was going to use their full capacity. In addition, I felt the Triads were much better sounding at moderate to high levels ie. quality of sound. Obviously, the Noesis can go much louder than most of Triad' lineup....................but why would you want too? It all came down to my own application..............
Don't get me wrong, the Noesis 212's are fantastic speakers, but I felt the Triad Golds were more to my liking.................go hear the differences yourself............and don't go by what others say.
Allow me to go off on a tangent here, and please, don't anyone take this the wrong way. There is a place for high-efficiency systems. I actually own one; a JBL 1,000-watt powered speaker that is rated at 135 dB at 1 meter. I use it for my Roland electronic drums, and I can get them louder than my Sonor/Zildjian acoustic set.
You may recall I've said many times that, in my opinion, the Triad Platinum LCR is the only speaker that will play that loud and sound that good. I still believe that. The reason this is an issue is it's much harder to get high-efficiency speakers to sound as good as proper speakers that are rated at 87 dB to 94 dB. There seems to be a real trade-off. There are many reasons for this, and I'm not going into them here, but if the maximum level you'll ever play your system at is 110 dB, you probably don't need a system that plays to 135 dB. And chances are very good that the 135 dB speaker doesn't sound as good. My JBL works great for my drums because there are times when it will be used in bigger rooms, or even outside, and a Triad system (although it would sound better
it wouldn't play loud enough for the application. But my JBL's definitely not high fidelity. Choosing a speaker is all about application.
A common technique used by hi-fi salespersons is to do an A/B comparison between two speakers. With the levels not matched, you will ALWAYS prefer the louder speaker, even though it may not be as accurate. This is why my demos were always done with levels of the two speakers matched. A speaker that was preferred without level matching usually lost once the levels were made the same. I always experienced the same puzzled look on customers' faces when they heard the 98 dB speaker they liked best level matched with a really good 90 dB speaker. Often I was accused of "funny business" because on a level playing field, the louder speaker no longer sounded better. This isn't to say that high-sensitivity speakers always sound worse, but quite often it's the case. Pro speakers generally sound worse, too. A band's P.A. system makes a lousy stereo, as I discovered 40 years ago when I hooked up my Voice of the Theater speakers to my home stereo. They were so harsh they could peel paint.
Many high-efficiency designs sound very good, and I'll give kudos to Seaton Sound, JTR, Wisdom, and a few others. And in a larger room or when playback at the money seat has to be 120 dB, they're generally going to work better than Triad. It all depends upon the application and the budget. And in a venue where a high-horsepower speaker is needed, the expectations of the fidelity have to be tempered a bit.
I defer to the wisdom of the doublewing here. His observations are correct.