"I need more bass!!!"
Originally Posted by doublewing11
I too was considering Plats......................heard Noesis 212's..................and figured Plats were too much. Never heard the Plats but really wished I had.........maybe I'd be a Plat owner. Gold LCR's are plenty dynamic for me...........and better resolution than Noesis 212's.................yet I'm actually attempting to have Gold Monitors put in my room temporarily to see if I want to make a change. It's not a question of dynamics.....but resolution.
I love Gold Monitor's that much.............and at -10 db's on my Marantz 8801 I'm saying, "Uncle" with my Gold LCR's..............so maybe........just maybe Gold Monitors might work for me.
Though the Gold LCR's are fantastic.................they just don't have the resolution that I want compared to Gold Monitors. If I can have the same big bold dynamic sound from Monitors that I can with Gold LCR's..........I'm switching out. It not.........then I'm holding pat.
I must agree..................Gold LCR's are THE best bang for the buck I've heard over the last two and half years searching for speakers...........and believe me, I spent every waking moment searching from Seattle down to San Diego. I must have auditioned over 100 different speakers and visited close to that many AV business establishments.
BTW, I have a JTR S2 in my room and was told it would over power my Gold LCR's............well that's not true whatsoever.......it's actually the other way around! I need more bass!!!
I've tuned the room the best I can for now......I have +/- 5 db's variance in 7 seating positions so smoothing/filling is needed...............wait until you learn about my path to perfection!!!!!
If you have a subwoofer with dual 18" drivers, driven by 4,000 watts of power, it's hard to believe you "need more bass." This sounds more like a "perceptual" problem than a "real" problem. If you've calibrated to Reference Level, and then you're listening at 10 to 15 dB below Reference Level, you need to "correct" the bass for the decreased "perception" of bass frequencies caused by your human hearing.
What most humans prefer when listening at levels lower than the level used for calibration is a rising LF curve, AKA a "house" curve. IOW, at listening levels lower than you calibrated at, you need to run your subwoofer "hot." I suggest turning the subwoofer trim up 3 to 6 dB. You should easily have enough headroom in your S2 subwoofer to accommodate this, especially with a MVC setting of -10 to -15. This will make the "perception" of the bass more appropriate for your human hearing deficiencies, (which ALL humans have.)
If you already have enough headroom, the real benefit of additional subwoofers is smoothing of the FR over more listening positions. In particular, multiple subs eliminates nulls. If you have significant nulls in your room, at your listening position, additional subs will reduce or eliminate those nulls, and make the bass sound fuller and better, and will give the impression of "more." Nonetheless, if you calibrate the combined response of the subs to the equivalent level of the single, you won't have "more" subwoofage, you'll have "better subwoofage."
On the subject of moving to Gold Monitors, IMO, it is important to have a "balanced" system. Having a subwoofer system that is immensely more capable than the speakers will leave the speakers wanting. A single S2 will overwhelm Gold Monitors in virtually any sized room. Multiple S2's will be massive overkill for them. If you go with multiple S2's, you'll definitely want more speaker, in order to be able to take full advantage of your sub system, Or, you could consider downgrading the subs to be in balance with the more limited output capability, (albeit the arguably better sound quality), of the Gold Monitors. Then commit to lower playback levels and realize you can't exceed them.
It'll be interesting to hear your impressions of the Gold Monitors in your room in direct comparo to the Gold LCR's. Good luck.