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post #121 of 389
Are those chains neccessary? Probably a stupid question as you wouldn't have used them if you didn't have to. If it were me, I'd look for a solution to get rid of them, they may be a distraction in what appears to otherwise be a classy modern home.

The scope shot on the wall looks awesome by the way, I wish I had a scope arrangement but I use more 16:9 material.
post #122 of 389
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well good question, I'm afraid to try and support the weight without them. It sort of is forcing me to go a lord of the rings or pirates of the caribbean theme.

The projector adn lens/sled is like 30 lbs total...afraid those corbels arent' the best support...

I use my projector mainly for scope now, 1.78/16:9 feels so strange on it. I leave that for my TV now. =D
post #123 of 389
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Originally Posted by elmalloc View Post

well good question, I'm afraid to try and support the weight without them. It sort of is forcing me to go a lord of the rings or pirates of the caribbean theme.

The projector adn lens/sled is like 30 lbs total...afraid those corbels arent' the best support...

I use my projector mainly for scope now, 1.78/16:9 feels so strange on it. I leave that for my TV now. =D

You got options.

This is a picture from my limited condo theater. It was a 2nd floor bedroom, a tiny one at that.I took the closet doors off and that's where the equipment went.



I held my AVR on other equipment on a shelf. I intially tried using heavy duty wall anchors, that didn't work out well, so what I settled on was using the larger brackets as more of a cosmetic thing and I got some small generic L-brackets. Screwed one end into the shelf and the other end into a stud.

This L-brackets would be barely noticeably, they are about an 1" for each side of the "L". You can then paint them the color of your wall to make them virtually invisible. Screwing into a stud will make it support the weight. The larger supports you have now (Is that what you mean by corbells) will hold up the front end of the shelf while the L-brackets support the major weight.

If I had a better image I would show you.
post #124 of 389
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the projector, lens and sled combo is something like 30-35 lbs -- and it's front heavy.

total it's like more than 11K sitting on the shelf, so can't be too safe. =D
post #125 of 389
any updates?
post #126 of 389
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Almost done with my MAME Cocktail cabinet. Will post a video when I have it configured.

post #127 of 389
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Almost done with my MAME Cocktail cabinet. Will post a video when I have it configured.


That's awesome! Did you build the enclosure?
post #128 of 389
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OK guys, update [1/7/2001].

I'm in the middle of demo'ing the basement to once and for all (hopefully?) have the theater room done. I have the projector upstairs right now in my living room.

I will post pictures as we progress. For now, 2 walls have been taken done and the frame (hopefully) will be up later today.

-ELmO
post #129 of 389
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Originally Posted by Y2KFirehawk View Post

That's awesome! Did you build the enclosure?

Nope, put the PC/mame together - bought the cabinet from MAMEROOM (in Ohio). Trouble finding chairs that low, though!
post #130 of 389
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I wish underfloor heating wasn't so damn expensive! It's $10 a square foot (not installed). How do people warm their floors in the basement?

Maybe I shouldn't have gone with laminate, but I'm installing some 4000W heaters and a ceiling fan to see if I can alleviate the situation, but I wish underfloor heating was more inexpensive...
post #131 of 389
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NEW MILESTONE HIT: All lighting brackets have been moved/wired, and one ceiling fan bracket installed in the "game area" of the basement. Additional cans were installed to illuminate the area, and the theater had some cans moved and created to create symmetry in the room.
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A week ago before starting the remodel (basement used to be all gray carpet), several unfinished sections for storage got knocked down:


Back wall knocked down, framing in place:






Old screen area (140" 1.78):


Old screen wall demolished:


31 boxes of laminate:

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About 1/3rd of the laminate is laid down, but the floor is pretty cold. Trying to add secondary heat with in wall heaters (with blower), but I may end up ripping the laminate back out and doing underfloor heating if I find something affordable?

Problem is, the mats I find at home depot/online are still $10 a square foot. I have roughly 600 square feet to work with here. $5000-6000 is too much for heating!

I am thinking of putting a fireplace down here too, with a ceiling fan to help circulate, but I'm not sure if the floor will be warm regardless.

I'll try to concentrate more on the theater pictures soon (carpeted area). Power to projector has been run, and we're throwing conduits around for video/audio cables soon. The equipment rack will be in the storage area of the basement directly behind the wall screen. We're building an enclosure box around the projector and anamorphic lens so it will be fairly hidden from the room.



















post #132 of 389
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Random images from the backyard patio work done in the summer last year:





post #133 of 389
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OK, going to work on the stage today. Hopefully base it off something similar to this member's:

post #134 of 389
Small world...I grew up in Medina! Ryan built my childhood house in the 70's and my parents still live there today.

Good luck with your theater build....I know that I'm enjoying mine!
post #135 of 389
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Thanks!

I ripped up the 200-300 square ft of laminate I laid down I got the subfloor with insulation put down last weekend, this will make a huge difference.

post #136 of 389
I have been following the last couple of pages of your thread and ripping up the laminate to put down a subfloor is pretty aggressive.
How cold is it in your basement?
I live in a similiar climate on Lake Michigan and I am planning on putting laminate in the basement just as you did, minus the subfloor. I did rough in a direct vent fire place that will make a big difference but there is no way I can do a subfloor, just too time consuming.
Goodluck.
post #137 of 389
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My basement is probably high 50s to low 60s all year round (even if the thermostat is at 72-73 for the house).

The subfloor is going to make a huge difference! Laminate by itself is a colder material (try putting it on your carpet in a warm room, you'll see it still feels 5-8 degrees colder than the carpet).

The subfloor allows you to insulate and bring the laminate up closer to room temperature. I didn't re-lay the laminate yet (that will be last, months from now at my pace). I had laid about 200 square feet before feeling that it was just too cold.

I also installed 2, 4000W inwall heaters (13,000 BTUs, 240V) with an electrical sub-panel coming in soon to support them. I roughed in a ceiling fan box. The problem we will have with the basement is it will be "warm" but the floor is going to be cold! Don't second guess that. I did, and that's why I laid so much laminate before it really got in my head that it won't work.

I was going to do a vent-free gas (as I have access to my gas line from the living room fireplace), but decided against it due to pricing. I can use that $1-2K for other cool things (if I think the basement will be heated suitably).

The key will be the ceiling fan or circulation! You must get the heat to the floor man!

I have an idea for the stage, but stopped and I'm building the project shelf/enclosure instead today.

By the way, it wasn't a lot of fun to bring in 4x8 OSBs and 4x8 insulation, but the install itself was done in about 12 hours of labor. About 0.60 cents/sq. ft of install. Take the time to do that. $370 of material for me (600 square feet). The R rating of the insulation alone is R5 (3/4th").

With the OSB, it's greater than R5 - and dricore (R1.7) and barricade (R3.3) aren't close for insulation value. Dricore/barricade are ready-made tongue and groove subfloors that you just pound together (easy). Come in 2x2 panels. Installing the 4x8 panels is a breeze though, but kind of difficult to bring into your house.

If you want more information on how to do it and what material (home depot), PM me.

-ELmO
post #138 of 389
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I was going to do a vent-free gas (as I have access to my gas line from the living room fireplace), but decided against it due to pricing. I can use that $1-2K for other cool things (if I think the basement will be heated suitably)[/quote]

I recently converted a wood burning fireplace on my main level to a ceramic vent free system that sits right in the old FP. Works like a charm and really heats up the main level. I was a little leary of them because of the O2 depletion concerns but their saftey seesm to have improved over the years. I picked it up for about a 1/3 $$ ^^;
post #139 of 389
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OK, purchased insulation and 12 pieces of drywall for the theater room. Finishing off the framing and will hopefully wire necessary speaker cable through walls (tonight), before putting drywall on later.
post #140 of 389
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Nope, put the PC/mame together - bought the cabinet from MAMEROOM (in Ohio). Trouble finding chairs that low, though!

Thanks for mentioning these guys. I was just checking out their website. We're planning on adding some kind of arcade machine in our next house and I was thinking about a MAME machine. What I'd really like is some kind of racing simulator.
post #141 of 389
BTW, you'll love having that subfloor in. I went with Dri-Core in my basement and am very happy to have some warmth under the carpet.
post #142 of 389
Man...I wish I lived somewhere affordable and made the same money I do now...lol.
post #143 of 389
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1) Electrical sub-panel installed (supports 3-4000W inwall heaters, not necessary and won't run all the time, but maybe 5 minutes before guests arrive!)



2) Half of drywall is up. Installing owens corning quiet zone insulation in walls and ceilings.





post #144 of 389
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Originally Posted by mn_hokie View Post

Thanks for mentioning these guys. I was just checking out their website. We're planning on adding some kind of arcade machine in our next house and I was thinking about a MAME machine. What I'd really like is some kind of racing simulator.

Contact them, I think I've seen people do racing simulators but they could be costly. The cocktail MAME is fairly cheap. The standup/showcases can run $2500+ IIRC, but still may be worth it for your game room (if only to play TMNT when friends come over!).
post #145 of 389
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Originally Posted by mutheater View Post

Small world...I grew up in Medina! Ryan built my childhood house in the 70's and my parents still live there today.

Good luck with your theater build....I know that I'm enjoying mine!

Ryan built my parent's house a long time ago, although..they don't build them like they used to.
post #146 of 389
Wow you got a ton done and it looks awesome.
post #147 of 389
Looks good! Did you just use rigid foam and osb on the floor?


Matt
post #148 of 389
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Mark - thanks! Working hard in my free time.

Matt - Yes, 3/4th rigid pink foam (R5) and only 1/2" OSB (easier to carry). Tapconned 8-9 per OSB. Pretty easy to instlal, not as fun to bring into the basement. Probably went a lot quicker than the 2x2 dricore/barricade formula. About $350 material for 600 square feet.

Feels very warm, would probably be great with carpet...but this is a game room, wooden floor is required. =)
post #149 of 389
Nice place you got there! Seems like you've been working on it for quite a while now. Wish I had the space and means to do something that nice.
post #150 of 389
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Thanks for the compliment, but I don't consider mine nice at all compared to the lunatics in this forum! They are crazy carpenters.

Personally I like to put money into equipment rather than anything else.

I'm going so slow that I "find" money every month to use. If I did everything right now, I'm assuming the bill is around 4-5K (outside equipment).

THe laminate flooring was 1.2K, the heaters were $600 (with 10GA wire) + $300 sub panel (so basically 1K for heating, argh!).

-ELmO
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