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post #151 of 389
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I'm going so slow that I "find" money every month to use.

Nice work you are doing.

Yep, I was on same whole basement plan; work, extra $ = buy, install, repeat cycle the next month....during winter months only.....for 5 years...stay outta debt, don't pay any interest % to "da-man".
post #152 of 389
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5 years, yikes! I can't take that long! I am a perfectionist but unfortunately I want to finish this project before spring/summer, because I'm a gardener/planter/landscaper kind of guy and would rather be outside.

So that means my theater will not get the excessive treatment/love that others in this forum have given it, but I will try to get the video/audio as high quality as my money allows, but the rest of the look/feel will not be there. =(

I already tested out a bug's life on it and it's as I remember it upstairs, and looks pretty good for 14ft wide with white walls/ceilings/crummy carpet.
post #153 of 389
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I found a place called Audio Video Interiors near by, I'll visit it sometime soon just for ideas, here's a picture of one part of their shop:
post #154 of 389
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Weather is nice out, here's a final picture of the patio and pergola:

post #155 of 389
Very nice! I need something like that in back to add a little interest. My view is um a little challenging compared to yours (basically a view of the garage).
post #156 of 389
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No worries, I live in Cleveland, just got another 6" of snow/ice and took 3.5 hours to drive home last night.

I like how people in California are like "that's nothing, blah blah blah, we do that everyday, BLAH". Yeah well you have kick ass weather and beaches, I have a muddy retention pond and 8-9 months of under 50 degree weather.
post #157 of 389
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Ya'll, I've been recovering from teh stomach flu the past couple weeks (no updates).

I'm afraid the weather is going to warm up (even though it's Ohio, I should have at least 1.5 more months), and my tendency is to start going bad-ass on the outside landscaping/etc. and losing track of the interior projects.

I've ordered swatches of theater carpet and chairs. There's still a lot of money to be spent down there. I need to wrap this up and still have a decent amount in the bank to rock the backyard one final time.

With the iPad2 coming out, I plan to use my current iPad as the HT remote conjunctioned with a WIFI to IR emitter. Some of the current crop have crummy UIs though, so I better find something decent before I try to program something myself (argh).

-ELmO
post #158 of 389
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8-9 months of under 50 degree weather.
Us too in New England. That's why we're so bloody fortunate to be in this hobby, Elmo! More time for the theater, muahhhhaaahhhaaaa. Speaking of which, now I realize why I've been gaining more weight every winter than the previous. Must integrate a treadmill into next theater build.... or not!
post #159 of 389
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That's a crazy house! Looks like you have icicle/ice damming problems, too. I had some 6ft icicles hanging down the side...

Good to hear from you - well I'll be painting the ceiling/back/front walls black, and not sure what my accent walls will be yet.

I have carpet and fabric samples for chairs coming in soon...

ELmO
post #160 of 389
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That's a crazy house! Looks like you have icicle/ice damming problems, too. I had some 6ft icicles hanging down the side...

Good to hear from you - well I'll be painting the ceiling/back/front walls black, and not sure what my accent walls will be yet.

I have carpet and fabric samples for chairs coming in soon...

ELmO

Nice to see you've made such an extreme commitment to the project and going for a performance theater (mostly) If I do another theater, everything is getting the black velvet treatment, even the seats, lol.
post #161 of 389
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How do we apply black velvet to the ceiling?

People have told me "it's too hard", etc. But I've done flat black and I can see for the first 3+ ft it's not "good enough".

My screen is taking up nearly full width (14.5 ft out of 17 ft), so I'm going to have trouble on sidewalls too.

Any tricks on applying velvet and making it look neat?

Thanks,
ELmO
post #162 of 389
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How do we apply black velvet to the ceiling?

People have told me "it's too hard", etc. But I've done flat black and I can see for the first 3+ ft it's not "good enough".

My screen is taking up nearly full width (14.5 ft out of 17 ft), so I'm going to have trouble on sidewalls too.

Any tricks on applying velvet and making it look neat?

Thanks,
ELmO

If you're not too picky, elmer's glue rolled onto the ceiling and just apply staples spray painted black - enough to hold them to the ceiling until the glue dries. If I could do it again, I'd take more time (I'm impatient as hell sometimes) and build frames, or apply to existing sound panels that once they are velvet covered you can then screw into the ceiling, then cover the screws with a decorative piece of 1x1 mdf or cardboard also covered with velvet or the like velcroed to the panel itself. In that way you can get some interesting and more professional look with seams where the panels meet, although the velvet is so dark you might not even see them.
post #163 of 389
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Thanks! Now I found some prior posts, but off the top of your head - which black velvet should I purchase?

I'll need about 400 square feet to do the whole ceiling, not sure how bad it would look if I only did the front half...

Thanks,
ELmO
post #164 of 389
Fidelio black velvet. I'll be following this. I thought about doing this for my ceiling as well because paint is not going to be a particularly good option. What about the glue seeping through the fabric? I thought because of that problem, using frames was the best/only way to go about it.
post #165 of 389
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I'll frame it. I think there may be a cheaper option than fidelio that works as well. Quick search shows $29 a yard. In prior thrads thought I saw people using $10-15 a yard material that works much better than flat black paint.
post #166 of 389
Well in that case your 2/3 the way to a star ceiling! Peer pressure!
post #167 of 389
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Well my question is, who would do a star ceiling when you're trying to cave out the whole room? I understand it may be localized, but wouldn't that distract viewers from the floating image?
post #168 of 389
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Well my question is, who would do a star ceiling when you're trying to cave out the whole room? I understand it may be localized, but wouldn't that distract viewers from the floating image?

From what I've read, most people don't find it distracting. There is always a switch. But if you are going for a no frills room, a star ceiling is just another aesthetic.
post #169 of 389
Any updates inside? Or you just been playing outside?
post #170 of 389
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Been playing outside, sucker!

Was going to make a post here a couple days ago, thanks for bumping it for me.

About to sell my accord, so I can landscape some more outside. I may grace this thread with a new plasma TV picture if I dare spend some money for the inside.

The theater grinded to a halt now that Cleveland is starting to get it's 2 months of good weather.

I'm thinking of the 59" Samsung Plasma ($1600) for the living room; seems like the ideal choice for price/quality ratio - will be enjoyable to play kinect on that! I have a paltry 52" and from 17ft away it's kind of small. A PJ is really the only way to fill that distance properly, but really not sure how well even the light cannon epson PJs can do during the day, and wouldn't be proper for video games during the day.

I figure the basement still needs a ton of cash. I suppose I need a new 5 channel quality HT amp, speakers (minus sub), possible screen, stage, carpet - at the minimum. Probably new HT chairs also, argh. Trying to do only one thing in life at a time.
post #171 of 389
Nice pictures. Great to go through the process over the last 4 years!

One question, what in the heck are great rooms and epic rooms and master rooms?
post #172 of 389
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I hope someday someone might call my great room an epic room. HAHA!

Great rooms are basically a combination living room and family room, and many times are vaulted (2 stories high).

I have never heard of epic or master rooms.

I have about 5-6K left of work in the theater room that I've stalled on because it's summer...I haven't watched a movie all year.
post #173 of 389
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Spent the last couple days landscaping some plants. Don't worry, I'll be getting back into the audio/video thing in a couple weeks!





post #174 of 389
Pretty, I love the open space something I've been craving for some time now..Must be nice to live without any fences, would love to see my daughter running around getting into trouble out and about. Really nice.

Thanks

Djoel
post #175 of 389
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Well- actually, I'm on the "other side of the fence" with no kids, if you know what I mean? LOL! Also open space is probably relative, I feel fairly claustrophobic now after my neighbors fence went up and I put up some arbors. It's a better sense of controlled yard space now though, and I have some large plans for the rest of the backyard. I have the urge to finish it now, but then I'll have no money to do the basement theater (SHAME!!).

What I've learned so far is an easy money trick for me, get to a certain savings point that you are happy with - then spend about 90% of whatever savings you earn above it on projects. It took me about a year to get to that savings point, but now every month I will have a little bit of money to continue to work on the inside of the house - so that makes me happy!

Being single though, it's a wonder I'll need so many TVs and projector setups...I've actually contemplated 3 setups (rather than 1 really great one).

1) Family room PJ - for 3d gaming/HDTV, 3D Blurays, ambient light watching
2) Basement PJ - critical CIH movie viewing
3) Living room PJ - people who don't want to watch what the family room is doing, mainly 3D HDTV. This room already has blackout blinds and is pretty dark during the day if necessary, so it doesn't require a screen right now. I'm thinking of the Optoma HD3300 or the new Epson PJs coming out. For their price they can't be beat! Otherwise, I could just plop a nice plasma in here and call it done.

I also am thinking about doing a LAN setup (4 PCs with hidden equipment) somewhere, probably the basement game room. I don't host parties that often, but I like when people have choices on what to do. The problem is right now I have nearly anything to do, because of analysis paralysis!
post #176 of 389
Being single is EXACTLY why you need so many projector setups!
post #177 of 389
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How many will she get rid of?
post #178 of 389
You've come a long way with that yard. The last time I saw a pic it was just a small paver area. Looks really good. Did you do the pavers yourself? If so, how bad was it? We moved into a new house in June. As you know, with it comes all of these projects. We have plans to put a deck and screened in porch on next spring, and I wanted to do a paver patio underneath with a walkway that leads out to a firepit and seating area in the corner of the yard (a similar setup to your raised wall, but with the firepit centered in the ground versus the wall).

I don't think you're crazy with the 3 setups. At our last house the theater was the only 5.1 setup in the house. The two other TV rooms were just stereo sound. Now that we've moved I know have it in the basement and our family room, with plans for some kind of surround setup in our loft as well. It's nice having options when gaming or watching movies.

Your desktop LAN setup you mentioned - are you thinking LAN gaming or something? I wasn't clear on where you were heading with that.
post #179 of 389
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You've come a long way with that yard. The last time I saw a pic it was just a small paver area. Looks really good. Did you do the pavers yourself? If so, how bad was it? We moved into a new house in June. As you know, with it comes all of these projects. We have plans to put a deck and screened in porch on next spring, and I wanted to do a paver patio underneath with a walkway that leads out to a firepit and seating area in the corner of the yard (a similar setup to your raised wall, but with the firepit centered in the ground versus the wall).

I don't think you're crazy with the 3 setups. At our last house the theater was the only 5.1 setup in the house. The two other TV rooms were just stereo sound. Now that we've moved I know have it in the basement and our family room, with plans for some kind of surround setup in our loft as well. It's nice having options when gaming or watching movies.

Your desktop LAN setup you mentioned - are you thinking LAN gaming or something? I wasn't clear on where you were heading with that.

Congratulations on your new home! I had a contractor do the patio, but I designed everything out. I put the Pergola up (with a helper). Everything else I planted (except the arborvitaes, too many and too heavy!).

I think it took me a month to decide on the patio design. Designing is the fun part! The firepit in the wall saves room on the patio. You'll be surprised if you start spray painting your yard, how much room you actually need to feel more open (I still don't have any furniture out there!).

The key to success is to take smaller projects in more detail and not do everything at once (you will lose a ton of cash fast!). Big ones are the deck or patio, but landscaping otherwise (water features, etc) do once a year. I have a lot of ideas and I'm happy the backyard is coming together nicely. It's a relaxing place to make my blood pressure decrease (as long as my hillbilly neighbor doesn't yell out some random thing at me).

Same with the inside, I'm pretty slow with figuring out what to do - I've noticed seeing a lot of other people's build threads has given me ideas of what I like and don't like. I plan to work on the living room before the year ends. It needs the works! I normally have too many ideas and don't end up finishing anything, but I'm going to focus on the living room now and not worry about the basement theater.

Yes, the LAN setup was for LAN gaming! I want to build a 4 PC setup with all computers hidden (that's the key to me). I would like it to be clean, with separate head sets. Check out what this guy did! I think the guy said it cost him $6000:
post #180 of 389
Thanks! We took a little bit of a hit selling our previous home but are hoping the deal we got on this one will end up for the better in a few years when things begin to stablilize in the market.

I hear ya on the one project at a time thing. We were fortunate enough to get this house built with a fully finished basment, which was an incentive the builder was offering at the time to push homes out the door. It's a little bit of a struggle mapping out the future theater, bar, and game room inside a finished product, but I'm seeing it as a challenge that I think I can work with. In the long run, it should cost far less to modify the room rather than build it from scratch, so we'll see.

I'm guessing the hillbilly neighbor is on the other side of that wall over evergreens (been there and done that in the past, so I get it).

I'm thinking of contracting out the paver work as well. I think it's something I could probably do on my own, but I also know that you need a really solid level base to work off of, so I don't want to run the risk of having things move on me down the road if I did it myself.

You can definately do a LAN setup for far less than that setup you showed. Do you like the look? It's a little too office/conference room looking for me. If you installed your desktops and router on the backside of a wall (not sure if you have access to an unfinished area or what you're thinking), you could just put a wall plate in that had 4-6 ports for ethernet. That would be a very clean look and would also eliminate the clutter and noise (not to mention the heat) of all of those computers. I've considered doing something similar here, but we have a distributed network installed already that allows me to plug right in in several rooms. I used to be a big PC gamer but haven't stayed up to speed on hardware over the past few years, so we now have a PS3 and a couple of XBox 360s that do the trick.

What kind of games are you into? I play a lot of FPS type games and have considered building a gaming rig just for the new Battlefield 3 game coming out in October.
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