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post #31 of 62
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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart View Post

We will see rigtht?

Er oops, my bad. Still, maybe my ridiculous poll will have a dampening effect too. But if all else fails, then there is really nothing else on the horizon with such fervor attached to it.

Honestly, I don't think SM3 will be as big as Transformers. I haven't seen the preorder activity associated with the 'formers. In due time the HDM "war" will be like arguing over DVD-A or SACD.
post #32 of 62
SM3 is not nearly as big a draw as Transformers.
post #33 of 62
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Originally Posted by vinnie97 View Post

Please, a good number of said threads were created by Blu boys to try to highlight perceived disadvantages of the format (and to belittle it).

And you don't think the reverse will be true? Something like "SM3, no PiP, should you go and get the SD edition?" I think the worst thing about these arguments is that it is hard to realize that no one is morally superior.
post #34 of 62
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Originally Posted by borland502 View Post

And you don't think the reverse will be true? Something like "SM3, no PiP, should you go and get the SD edition?" I think the worst thing about these arguments is that it is hard to realize that no one is morally superior.

I hope we don't see such a thread. The movie should simply be allowed to speak for itself this time.
post #35 of 62
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Originally Posted by vinnie97 View Post

I hope we don't see such a thread. The movie should simply be allowed to speak for itself this time.

One can but hope. I guess my poll was too provocative and/or stupid since it has already been deleted.
post #36 of 62
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Originally Posted by kevivoe View Post

SM3 is not nearly as big a draw as Transformers.

The box office numbers disagree with you.
post #37 of 62
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Evan702 View Post

The box office numbers disagree with you.

Less than 10% seperates the two - close enough. See my sig for facts.
post #38 of 62
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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart View Post

Less than 10% seperates the two - close enough. See my sig for facts.

Fair enough, but 1%, 5%, 10%, whatever%, Spider-Man 3 is still ahead and thus my retort to kevivoe's statement that Spider-Man 3 isn't NEARLY as big a draw as Transformers.

Also, as I'm sure you know, worldwide Spider-Man 3 grossed nearly $200 million more than Transformers. Now which movie isn't nearly as big a draw as the other?
post #39 of 62
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Originally Posted by briankmonkey View Post

If HD DVD does a BOGO on all Universal and Paramount titles it will be a great week for consumers

Well BOGO for ALL exclusive HD DVD studios vs a $60 box set will sure be HD DVDomination

Sony is still ridiculously stupid for taking the matrix route with Spidey.....give us all individual AND a box set for a better value, so stupid.
post #40 of 62
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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart View Post

Well with 10+ threads on Transformers . . . how many threads on SPM3 will we get? How many useless self serving polls?

Hpw many childish posts do we have to read through?


Here's the first one.....


No poll ?
Now me mad twice in 2 days.
post #41 of 62
I don't know why I bother reading these forums anymore.
post #42 of 62
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Originally Posted by deez View Post

I wonder if we will see threads titled:

Spidey- 2 discs...what a failure

Anyone see the grain at 1:23:56??

I want to watch Spiderman but my Toshiba gives an error code..do I need to update my firmware?

Also, if Spidey gets more threads will that be enough to end this war?


LOLOLOl

HAHAHA

I almost spilled my coffee on that!
post #43 of 62
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Originally Posted by Steverhcp02 View Post

Well BOGO for ALL exclusive HD DVD studios vs a $60 box set will sure be HD DVDomination

Sony is still ridiculously stupid for taking the matrix route with Spidey.....give us all individual AND a box set for a better value, so stupid.

Eh?

Sony is selling a box set... as well as spiderman 3 seperately. And they are supposidly including it in a new PS3.

Lots of options. Will be interesting to see how the individual sales go.

I dont think there will be such an AVS frenzy because of Spiderman. Blu Ray usually wins. With Spiderman 3, it will just be another win.

Whereas Transformers is really the best shot at winning a week this year.
post #44 of 62
Don't know why anyone would obsess about S3...it was one of the WORST movies I've(and many others) have seen in a LONG LONG time.

I can't imagine wanting to actually OWN the movie....
post #45 of 62
Why is it only the garbage movies like this and Transformers that get all the silly threads? :-)
post #46 of 62
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Originally Posted by Evan702 View Post

The box office numbers disagree with you.

The profitability in the US doesn't.

Transfomers: $317 million US, production budget: $150 million

Spider-man 3: $336 million US, production budget: $258 million

Usually, the first of a franchise is the most popular.
post #47 of 62
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Don't know why anyone would obsess about S3...it was one of the WORST movies I've(and many others) have seen in a LONG LONG time.

I can't imagine wanting to actually OWN the movie....

To be honest,
its much the same as Transformers, in that they are two decidely below-par films with one only slightly more entertaining than the other (I expected Transformers to be poor so that came a no great shock, but was really disappointed with SM3 as I'm a massive fan of the 2nd)..
But, they obviously both contain scenes which look/sound stunning in HD and people will want to demo or experience such scenes in their own home..
post #48 of 62
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Originally Posted by Mr. Cinema View Post

The profitability in the US doesn't.

Transfomers: $317 million US, production budget: $150 million

Spider-man 3: $336 million US, production budget: $258 million

Usually, the first of a franchise is the most popular.

Alas, profitability was not the subject of the original post in question.

Moreover, assuming that you are correct about production costs, Spider-Man 3 still comes out ahead worldwide.
post #49 of 62
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Originally Posted by Steverhcp02 View Post

Well BOGO for ALL exclusive HD DVD studios vs a $60 box set will sure be HD DVDomination

Sony is still ridiculously stupid for taking the matrix route with Spidey.....give us all individual AND a box set for a better value, so stupid.

Would be stupid if that were true. I'm pretty sure they are selling them individually as well.

Still a BOGO deal on HD DVD titles would probably more than offset. I'm sure having the BOGO at CC for HD DVD this week has helped quite a bit.
post #50 of 62
If the current transformers were the third in the series it would have been panned for all of its plot holes, lack of charactor developement(transformers) and how weak the Transformers were... esp the autobots. Its basically a story about how the humans save the autobots. It should be the other way around

But being that its new, and has a wow effect, people are overlooking the subpar non-sensical story. Hopefully Part2 will be better.

Spiderman 3 was on par/slightly better than Transformers. But people were disappointed because of the high expectations set from spiderman 2....Also the WOW is gone.. now that they are on their third film.
post #51 of 62
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Originally Posted by tqlla View Post

the WOW is gone.

There is little thrill left in Spiderman, but Transformers is bustng out with WOW factor.

That is why I would expect Transformers to sell more relative to the HD DVD install base then I would Spiderman 3 to the Blu-ray install base, although the PS3 factor will confuse the result. For example (just making up numbers), if Transformers sells 100,000 in it's first week and Spiderman 3 sells 150,000, which did relatively better?
post #52 of 62
My expectations are pretty low for Spiderman 3 after having watched 1,2. They just were ok movies, nothing special. While Transformers wasn't exactly true to the cartoon it was very enjoyable, IMO a MUCH better movie than SM1, 2.
post #53 of 62
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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart View Post

Less than 10% seperates the two - close enough. See my sig for facts.

Only the domestic total is close.
The opnening weekend was about double.
FWIW Pirates 3 had a bigger opening than TF. Over 100 mil.
I think we can safely say that Spidey will do as much or more at home.

Spiderman 3: Domestic: $336,530,303 37.8%
+ Foreign: $553,979,415 62.2%
= Worldwide: $890,509,718

Opening weekend=
$151,116,516


Transformers
Domestic: $317,667,377 45.3%
+ Foreign: $383,326,113 54.7%
= Worldwide: $700,993,490

Opening weekend= $70,502,384
post #54 of 62
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Originally Posted by theflux View Post

Well I see we already have the first one!

I didn't watch it in the theater due to bad reviews and really wasn't looking to see it on HD either.

That being said, I am sure that one of my friends will have it on SD DVD and I'll probably watch it then.

Pity too as I really liked the first two movies.

I'm sure it will do well if for no other reason because of the media push and kid's sales but I doubt that it will be the "High Definition media title of the year" in terms of sales.

Harry Potter may still swamp it due to being on both formats.
post #55 of 62
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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart View Post

Well with 10+ threads on Transformers . . . how many threads on SPM3 will we get? How many useless self serving polls?

Hpw many childish posts do we have to read through?


well considering the person that made 75% of the transformers polls is a hd dvd fanboy I doubt blu supporters will need to assure themselves that they picked the right format.
post #56 of 62
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Originally Posted by Gordon Shumway View Post

Don't know why anyone would obsess about S3...it was one of the WORST movies I've(and many others) have seen in a LONG LONG time.

I can't imagine wanting to actually OWN the movie....

some ppl felt the same way about Transformers. tho i liked transformers much more than sm3, box office numbers doesnt quite agree. usually when it make that much money a lot of ppl made repeated viewings at the theaters.

Megan Fox > Kirsten Dunst + whoever played Gwen i'd say the hottest girl in the spidey series is jameson's secretary. action sequence i'd give the edge to spidey.

as for the topic of the thread, i dont think we will see as much redundant and pointless posts as we did with transformers being that there isnt a lossless issue to bicker about. there wont be pip b/c pip isnt ready yet. if the $399 ps3 is bundled with sm3, will each ps3 sale also count as a sm3 bd sale?
post #57 of 62
well I have the UK version of Spideman trilogy on Blu - Spiderman3 is very good in terms of picture and sound quality, probably the best I've seen and heard on blu ray - and its region A B and C.

There again I also imported Transformers from the states on HD DVD and once again the Picture quality and audio quality is fantastic, for DD+ the sound is clear with deep bass and good range and probably the clearest picture i've seen on HD DVD.

Which is the best - well my preference is for the movie and as a package Transformers comes out on top. it has plenty of HD extras and HDI section is great.

It was a close call though.
post #58 of 62
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by spam.curitiba View Post

well considering the person that made 75% of the transformers polls is a hd dvd fanboy I doubt blu supporters will need to assure themselves that they picked the right format.

Why would you say that? They do it ALL the time.
post #59 of 62
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Originally Posted by Jeff Lampert View Post

There is little thrill left in Spiderman, but Transformers is bustng out with WOW factor.

That is why I would expect Transformers to sell more relative to the HD DVD install base then I would Spiderman 3 to the Blu-ray install base, although the PS3 factor will confuse the result. For example (just making up numbers), if Transformers sells 100,000 in it's first week and Spiderman 3 sells 150,000, which did relatively better?

I would concur with this sentiment. Had transformers been on BD, it would have easily been the highest selling HDM title. And probably the highest selling BD title.

I fully expect Spiderman 3 to take that title now(although I am not sure how it will count since they also sell it in a box set, and are supposidly including it in the new PS3).

Regardless of the great special effects, it doesnt change the fact that transformers was a story about how the humans crushed the decepticons and saved the autobots.
post #60 of 62
Lee, the only thing that would have topped off this thread, is if the second post was a cameo by Stan Lee.
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