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post #31 of 644
Is this only happening when the HDMI goes straight to the TV? What about a receiver? Seems to me that the receiver->360 connection should stay "active" even if the receiver->TV connection has been switched to another source.
post #32 of 644
It's definitely the 360.

Same thing happens with my SXRD.

We we're in the middle of a game of Madden, and my friend wanted to check the score to a game, so he paused and switched the displays input to the cable box and the 360 rebooted in the middle of a game.

I noticed this problem prior but this was the only occasion in which I lost game info...
post #33 of 644
All those people having problems here are some questions:
1) are you all using the premium with made up A/V cables for optical?
2) if you have you tried it with just the HDMI?

I have the Samsung HL-T5075S and the xbox premium
When hooked up with just HDMI it does not restart when I switch channels and works perfectly fine.

However, when I use HDMI + modified AV cable for optical it restarts.

The xbox manual does state not to use HDMI and AV cables together.
My guess is, when you switch from HDMI input the Xbox probably switches to the analog input. And when you switch back it notices it back and etc.
Anyways this causes the Xbox to restart.
post #34 of 644
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Originally Posted by estoyloco View Post

All those people having problems here are some questions:
1) are you all using the premium with made up A/V cables for optical?
2) if you have you tried it with just the HDMI?

I have the Samsung HL-T5075S and the xbox premium
When hooked up with just HDMI it does not restart when I switch channels and works perfectly fine.

However, when I use HDMI + modified AV cable for optical it restarts.

The xbox manual does state not to use HDMI and AV cables together.
My guess is, when you switch from HDMI input the Xbox probably switches to the analog input. And when you switch back it notices it back and etc.
Anyways this causes the Xbox to restart.

See post 23.

Thanks for the tip on the Xbox Manual, I had no idea it didn't like that combo... RTFM indeed.
post #35 of 644
Quote:
Originally Posted by estoyloco View Post

All those people having problems here are some questions:
1) are you all using the premium with made up A/V cables for optical?
2) if you have you tried it with just the HDMI?

I have the Samsung HL-T5075S and the xbox premium
When hooked up with just HDMI it does not restart when I switch channels and works perfectly fine.

However, when I use HDMI + modified AV cable for optical it restarts.

The xbox manual does state not to use HDMI and AV cables together.
My guess is, when you switch from HDMI input the Xbox probably switches to the analog input. And when you switch back it notices it back and etc.
Anyways this causes the Xbox to restart.


I am using this same exact setup with the HDMI and optical and mine does not reset. At work we have a 360 premium hooked up with HDMI from the reciever to the display through a Onkyo 805 no resets from that setup either.

I have a 60" XBR1 and 70" XBR2 SXRD displays.
post #36 of 644
Quote:
Originally Posted by estoyloco View Post

All those people having problems here are some questions:
1) are you all using the premium with made up A/V cables for optical?
2) if you have you tried it with just the HDMI?

I have the Samsung HL-T5075S and the xbox premium
When hooked up with just HDMI it does not restart when I switch channels and works perfectly fine.

However, when I use HDMI + modified AV cable for optical it restarts.

Hi,

I have exactly the same behaviour. A premium xbox which is connected directly with HDMI cable to Panasonic TH-42PX70 tv. If just HDMI is used, I can change between inputs, no problem. But if I have also original component cable connected, switching input away and back resets xbox. The reset happens when changing back to xbox input.

My _guess_ is that this has something to do with the fact that there are two different video cables connected at the same time. Maybe the box switches to component and then back to HDMI which causes the boot. Just guessing though. If somebody could get their hands on to official audio only module and confirm that it works correctly with premium while using HDMI for video. And if it could be bought without that expensive HDMI cable... 3rd party manufacturers, we're waiting!
post #37 of 644
Just wanted to bump this up as I'm having the same problem, anyone found any solutions yet?
post #38 of 644
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Originally Posted by Egret View Post

I'm having the same issue with a Sceptre.

I have an Elite, a Sceptre 37", and an Octavo 3 port switch, with my 360, PS3 and Motorola cable box (via DVI to HDMI connector) no reset on my 360 when I swap sources.
post #39 of 644
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Originally Posted by Ryansdad View Post

Just wanted to bump this up as I'm having the same problem, anyone found any solutions yet?

Well Ryansdad, it seems to be narrowed downed to those of us that use the Component A/V cable to transport the audio via optical in conjunction with the HDMI cable. Is this how yours is set up?
post #40 of 644
Marfpilf,

Yes that's exactly how mine is set up, reading this thread I decided to open up the av switch and remove all connectors having to do with the video and audio leaving only the connectors for the optical output, I completly pull out the lil metal connections as well from the switch figured maybe one of those cables is sending the signals and this way it wouldn't any more but no luck my sound still works but it still resets. Next I was thinking if we could open up one of those MS dongles to see how they are wired maybe we could do the same to the av cables.
post #41 of 644
I am also having this problem, and I'm also using a modified AV plug for optical audio. I was wondering, does the Elite come with the $50 HDMI dongle that we Premium owners are trying to avoid buying? If so, would anyone like to break their's apart and tell us how it's wired? NO? Aw, come on!
post #42 of 644
I'm bidding on one of those dongles on ebay for 5 bucks if nobody bids on it I can get it for 10 dollars including shipping, I'll be willing to open it up and see how is wired since most likely I'm gona need this same set up again for my sons 360 I have to figure out a way to avoid this same issue once he gets the arcade version. in the meantime I have a VGA cable i'm willing to hack just as soon as my son is not around he don't trust me with all my projects =)
post #43 of 644
just get a dragon vga cable for the other 360 and cut the cable off since you just need the scart plug w/ optical
post #44 of 644
I found the solution. Actually, I should say that somebody else ("Nadoka") found the solution and posted it at slashgear.com.

Quote:


The fix for this is to open up the HD cable dongle and remove a black shorted wire inside. It's the only one that loops back on itself at the connector. Anyone willing to do this will see right away what I'm talking about when the metal casing is ripped apart. Do so at your own risk, of course.

I took the extra step of desoldering all the RCA wires off. So I ended up with just an Optical Dongle.

I win! Microsoft, you lose!

I will try this tonight.
post #45 of 644
Thanks DireSpume! I'll try this and report back.
post #46 of 644
Marfpilf, Did you try this?
from reading on how to do this it sounds exactly like what i did to my av switch but i still had the same prob i did remove all the wires including the lil pin metal things only leaving the ones for the optical. is there other cables?
post #47 of 644
So, I tried cutting the little black wire. It killed the digital audio output. I don't know if it solved the restarting problem because I soldered the black wires back together before I thought to test for the restart.
post #48 of 644
Dire,

I did get mine to work by removing the black wire, however you have to make sure the av switch is set to tv not hdtv otherwise you won't get sound I had the same prob as you loosing the optical and decided to flip that switch and try again and works great and no more resetting.

Anybody else want to try it heres the cable you need to remove.



post #49 of 644
Very helpful pics
post #50 of 644
anyone else try this?
post #51 of 644
5harkology,

there was a couple of other guys that tried it and it worked for them too. I been using mine this way since 11/20/07 and I'm able to pause the game switch HDMI output to watch programs in my case NFL games and at half time go back to 360 and continue my game without resetting anymore.
post #52 of 644
Just saying that my Elite connected to a monoprice 3 port HDMI switch does not exhibit this issue, and I am using the MS dongle to connect to my receiver via optical. I think the theory that it resets because people have the component connector hooked in is part of the issue.
post #53 of 644
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryansdad View Post

5harkology,

there was a couple of other guys that tried it and it worked for them too. I been using mine this way since 11/20/07 and I'm able to pause the game switch HDMI output to watch programs in my case NFL games and at half time go back to 360 and continue my game without resetting anymore.

Please tell me you aren't playing Madden at halftime.
post #54 of 644
Eluder,

This is for most of us not wanting to spend the additional 50 dollars for the dongle when buying a premium or arcade version. instead we just use the av switch and hack it to mimic the 50 dollar dongle at first we had some issues because we left that black wire connected and it was causing to reset the 360 however after that it works like a charm and you save 50 dollars.

Rtric,

nope not good enuff to play online I just picked up the game about a month ago, we play fifa with my friends offline during half time we all get on 1 team.
post #55 of 644
Bump for one hell of a thread!!!!
post #56 of 644
I can't believe it, but it totally worked. I had to un-solder the metal casing to expose the wires, but I yanked out the little black one that was looped, switched it to TV mode, and the problem was solved.
post #57 of 644
Has anybody tried this with the Monoprice 360 component cables? Is it the same idea?
post #58 of 644
This issue is only for those using the HDMI output for video and trying to pass audio by using the original component cables from MS the av switch with the optical output.

Not sure how you are using the monoprice cables.
post #59 of 644
Ryansdad,
I'm using the monoprice cables for the exact same thing. I didn't want to take apart the original MS cables, so I got the monoprice ones and am using it as the optical dongle.
post #60 of 644
Fanerman,

I'm confused as the MS cables come with component cables built into the dongle, the only reason why you would need monoprice cables is if you were trying to extend them.

Do you have optical monoprice cable for sound?
or do you have the RCA cables for sound?
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