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post #541 of 639
not sure if it will help, but if your tv has an optical audio output u can use, input all your hdmi cables in to your tv and let the tv send the audio to your reciever via fiber. p.s. some tv's also have analog outputs for those who dont have a audio amp with optical inputs.
post #542 of 639
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Originally Posted by aaron n View Post

not sure if it will help, but if your tv has an optical audio output u can use, input all your hdmi cables in to your tv and let the tv send the audio to your reciever via fiber. p.s. some tv's also have analog outputs for those who dont have a audio amp with optical inputs.

There are a few potential issues with that method. First, many TVs do not support audio over HDMI at all. I should know, as I have one of those TVs. Second, for those TVs that do support audio over HDMI, most only support simple 2 channel stereo. In that case, the XBOX will cooperate and send only 2 channel stereo, which can then be sent to the receiver over toslink optical. Third, toslink optical handles a maximum of 1.5 Mb/s data rate and while this is adequate to carry ordinary 5.1 channel dolby digital or DTS, it is not sufficient to carry many HD audio streams available in the HDMI standard. That said, the 360 does not support any type of audio that can't be carried over toslink optical. PS3 is a different story.

P.J.
post #543 of 639
I have a Gigaware all in one cable from radioshack(connections for xbox, ps2/ps3, and wii, all to component). Wondering if someone can help me out.

Using HDMI out to my AVR, but I use optical out to a Turtle Beach wireless headset as well, and I am having the reset issue consistently.

In the picture, the optical port is the little black box hanging off by three white wires. There are a ton of jumpers on the cable connector itself though, as you can see. What am I safely able to remove in order to just use the optical port and nothing else? Can I cut all but those three optical port wires?

post #544 of 639
BUMP. Can anyone assist with this connector?
post #545 of 639
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Originally Posted by Black993 View Post

BUMP. Can anyone assist with this connector?

I got a really busy day job. So, you gotta give me a chance to get home before I can get to these things.

Anyway, I can't see the other row of connector pins and that is the interesting side. You'll need to push the connector out of the metal shell to get to the other side. The 3 white wires on the right hand side, are pins 25, 27 and 29. You definitely need those 3 wires, as you already know, but you also need 2 jumpers on the other row of pins. That is, you need a jumper from pin 18 to pin 20 and a jumper from pin 22 to pin 24. If you flip the connector over and starting from the same end that has the toslink optical connector wires, the pins are numbered 30, 28, 26, 24, 22, 20, 18. If I have to guess, I'd say that there will be a jumper from pin 26 to 28 and this will need to be cut or removed entirely. Then add jumpers 18-20 and 22-24. You can just blob some solder bridging the pins if you like.

Any other wires not mentioned, can be removed.

P.J.
post #546 of 639
Thanks PJ!
post #547 of 639
BIG thanks to nadjkovic for the awesome pics and Valence01 for the detailed tips!
Just got my adapter today from amazon for $7 and used my $8 solder gun, 10 mins done!
Couldn't have done it without you guys!
post #548 of 639
Still having the issue when switching HDMI sources. If I select to watch my HTPC, the xbox is coming on when the Denon changes HDMI inputs. Either I've got something set wrong on my Harmony, or I didn't get all the connections right in my hack of the xbox port. (Both are ENTIRELY possible )
post #549 of 639
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Originally Posted by Black993 View Post

Still having the issue when switching HDMI sources. If I select to watch my HTPC, the xbox is coming on when the Denon changes HDMI inputs. Either I've got something set wrong on my Harmony, or I didn't get all the connections right in my hack of the xbox port. (Both are ENTIRELY possible )

The best strategy in these cases is; divide and conquer. That is, get the Harmony out of the picture first. Now, do everything manually with the original Denon remote. No macros, no fancy stuff. While viewing the HTPC, change input on the Denon. Did the 360 turn on?

With just the 360, Denon and TV on, switch away from the 360 with the Denon and then back to the 360. Did the 360 reboot?

Otherwise, take pictures of the connector after the mod and post. Then we can see if there is anything obvious wrong there.

P.J.
post #550 of 639
Mine is rebooting again. Took it apart, tried reinforcing the solder, had no luck.

ETA: Annnnd in trying to fix it I basically wrecked it. Sigh. I think I'm just gonna buy a cheapo adapter off of eBay. If it still presents with the handshake issue, at least it's easier to fix than what I went through with the composite cable...

ETA: Ended up getting a used Microsoft OEM adapter off of eBay for under 6 bucks (and had like 5.50 in gift card bucks ), and it's working spectacularly! Woo!
post #551 of 639
Thanks nadjkovic!!! I'd been plagued by the rebooting problem for a long time now. I finally got around to soldering pins 22 & 24 and now it works great!
post #552 of 639
FWIW Monprice is carrying a self-branded HDMI audio dongle that is actually wired correctly (not that it's rocket science).

http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2

The price absolutely cannot be beat.

P.J.
post #553 of 639
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Originally Posted by Valence01 View Post
FWIW Monprice is carrying a self-branded HDMI audio dongle that is actually wired correctly (not that it's rocket science).

http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2

The price absolutely cannot be beat.

P.J.
got an email alert yesterday, glad for confirmation that it worked. thanks!
post #554 of 639
For those who want to tape off the pin(s) and who also find the diagram a little confusing (especially the words "wire end, facing into console"), here's the easy description:

Pull out the cable and look into the female connector at the end of the cable. Looking into the cable connector (not the Xbox) with the shorter edge facing DOWN, tape over the two pins all the way to the left on the bottom. Pin 28 is second from the left on the bottom but it's easier to tape the left TWO pins because you can use a wider piece of tape. Scotch tape or clear packing tape works fine. When you cut it, cut it at least 1/4 inch longer than the inside so you can wrap it around the edge and onto the outside of the (metal part of the) connector. That way if you need to remove it or reposition it, you can peel it away easily from the outside first.

Worked perfectly for me: Xbox no longer resets when HDMI is disconnected. Just remember to switch your switch on the connector from HD to SD (mine was labeled "HDTV" and "TV"). Gotta put it on SD (or TV) to get sound out of the optical connector.

Mike
post #555 of 639
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Originally Posted by Valence01 View Post

FWIW Monprice is carrying a self-branded HDMI audio dongle that is actually wired correctly (not that it's rocket science).

http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2

The price absolutely cannot be beat.

P.J.

I have the hdmi switching problem also, but I don't see how this audio dongle will fix it. The description says: "This adapter allows the HDMI cable to be connected from your Xbox to the HDTV with the audio routed separately to your home theatre system." Is the issue not in the hdmi cable itself?

When using this solution do you plug both the hdmi cable and optical cable into your receiver so it doesn't use the hdmi for both audio and video?
post #556 of 639
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Originally Posted by RemoWilliams84 View Post

I have the hdmi switching problem also, but I don't see how this audio dongle will fix it. The description says: "This adapter allows the HDMI cable to be connected from your Xbox to the HDTV with the audio routed separately to your home theatre system." Is the issue not in the hdmi cable itself?

When using this solution do you plug both the hdmi cable and optical cable into your receiver so it doesn't use the hdmi for both audio and video?

If you're using an HDMI cable and nothing else and you still have the reboot issue, then this dongle will not fix the problem. This whole thread is dedicated to those that are using a component HD/SD cable in conjunction with an HDMI cable. This is typically done to deal with situations where the TV does not handle the audio over HDMI well, or at all. In such case, routing audio via optical cable, allows full 5.1 digital surround sound through home theater receiver, while maintaining HDMI video connection.

The downside to doing this with a component HD/SD cable, is that it introduces the reboot issue. If you replace the component HD/SD cable with the HDMI audio dongle (monoprice or Microsoft only), it will eliminate the reboot issue while retaining full 5.1 digital surround sound via optical. Alternatively, for those unwilling to spend the sub $3 price for the monoprice HDMI audio dongle, some users modify their component HD/SD cables to get the same functionality as the real HDMI audio dongle.

P.J.
post #557 of 639
Okay. I didn't realize that this issue was only introduced with the audio dongle. I do use an audio dongle to send an optical signal to my Tritton headphones. I never suspected that was the culprit though. I'll try unplugging the audio dongle and see if I still have the problems. If I don't I'll try ordering the monoprice cable.
post #558 of 639
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Originally Posted by RemoWilliams84 View Post

Okay. I didn't realize that this issue was only introduced with the audio dongle. I do use an audio dongle to send an optical signal to my Tritton headphones. I never suspected that was the culprit though. I'll try unplugging the audio dongle and see if I still have the problems. If I don't I'll try ordering the monoprice cable.

Sorry, that's not it. The problem is introduced when folks use a standard component HD/SD or other cable INSTEAD of the proper HDMI audio dongle. Only the official Microsoft HDMI audio dongle and the monoprice one are wired correctly. Any other HDMI audio dongle is likely wired incorrectly and will cause the reboot issue just like any ordinary component HD/SD cable.

P.J.
post #559 of 639
Just wanted to verify that the Monoprice cable DOES work. I had the hdmi reset issue before, now not at all.

My setup is xbox 360 elite hdmi to onkyo receiver. Audio dongle via optical to Tritton ax720 amp.
post #560 of 639
i have an elite and used a hdmi splitter to switch from xbox to my pc with no problems,the trouble started when i used the composite av lead in conjunction with a hdmi lead so i could run the xbox sound through my pc (made possible by removing outer casing on av lead so it would have enough space to fit beside the hdmi cable) on xbox ,now the xbox resets itself when switching from my pc.The superior sound quality i recieve through my pc headphones(logitec g35)more than compensates for the reset problem
post #561 of 639
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Originally Posted by spectrasoul View Post

i have an elite and used a hdmi splitter to switch from xbox to my pc with no problems,the trouble started when i used the composite av lead in conjunction with a hdmi lead so i could run the xbox sound through my pc (made possible by removing outer casing on av lead so it would have enough space to fit beside the hdmi cable) on xbox ,now the xbox resets itself when switching from my pc.The superior sound quality i recieve through my pc headphones(logitec g35)more than compensates for the reset problem

You can fix that reboot issue by modifying the composite AV cable, as outlined multiple times in this thread, or spending $2.79 for the monoprice HDMI audio dongle. Given the low price of the monoprice dongle, it doesn't make sense to muck around modding a composite or other cable any more. The monoprice HDMI audio dongle coexists without resorting to ghetto/trailer park method of removing the housing on the connector permanently.

P.J.
post #562 of 639
I have a hong-kong audio dongle, too. Used the nadjkovic method, because my dongle matched 100% with the pictures. Soldered for the first time in the last ten years (glad I found my old gun). Worked very well. Finally got rid of that sh**y "bug".
post #563 of 639
Can anyone confirm for me if the Official xbox cable works? I don't mind spending the money to avoid cracking things open. But the one off of amazon has the restart issue.
post #564 of 639
Didn't work for me. The one on Monoprice does work though and it's only a few bucks.
post #565 of 639
Ok thanks.
post #566 of 639
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Originally Posted by theamazingtiny View Post

Can anyone confirm for me if the Official xbox cable works? I don't mind spending the money to avoid cracking things open. But the one off of amazon has the restart issue.

1 or 2 people have reported a reboot issue with the official Microsoft HDMI audio dongle. For everybody else, it works without causing the reboot issue, but it's more than a little pricey considering you can also get one that works from Monoprice for less than 1/10 the price.

There's really no rocket science involved. There's just 3 jumper wires. Two should be installed and one not. If the official Microsoft dongle does not work, then that one is broken. The same thing for the Monoprice dongle.

P.J.
post #567 of 639
I am having this problem, I have the Gamestop brand audio adapter

I went on Amazon and bought this, would this work?

http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Xbox.../dp/B002WIG4LW

Also would this work on the 360 SLIM?

Thanks
post #568 of 639
Also I am using ONLY an HDMI cable and no SD components. The 360 Slim will not allow me to use the SD Cables with the HDMI because of how the ports are so close together.
post #569 of 639
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Originally Posted by C4 Yourself View Post

I am having this problem, I have the Gamestop brand audio adapter

I went on Amazon and bought this, would this work?

http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Xbox.../dp/B002WIG4LW

Also would this work on the 360 SLIM?

Thanks

A quick read of the first review, reveals that it apparently does have the reset issue.

Just get the Monoprice dongle. It's cheaper and does not have the reset issue.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2

P.J.
post #570 of 639
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Originally Posted by Valence01 View Post

A quick read of the first review, reveals that it apparently does have the reset issue.

Just get the Monoprice dongle. It's cheaper and does not have the reset issue.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2

P.J.

Gotcha, I already ordered it, thanks a bunch.
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