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post #1231 of 1469
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Originally Posted by Tarkus2040 View Post

Thank you for responding, Joe. Yep, I've tried clearing the CMOS several times. Funny that this board (my first build using Gigabyte, btw) didn't come with a jumper for that purpose. Luckily, I had a jumper handy just for the occasion. LOL! Anyway, the same friend of mine is bringing over his other computer that I built for him a few months ago, and I plan to do some hardware swapping to isolate the culprit (it's an AM2 system as well). In the end (as you've stated), it's probably the board. In all the builds I've done over the years, I've never encountered a dead mobo. First time for everything, I guess.

No problem Tarkus2040. Must be a Gigabyte thing with the jumpers. The mobo I RMA'ed also didn't have a jumper pre-installed. Probably because their boards don't need a jumper in the default mode. The Abit Intel C2D board I have has an external switch for clearing the CMOS, a pretty convenient feature.

I've only had a few instances with DOA boards. Luckily, the GA-MA69GM-S2H fired up on the first try and hasn't hiccuped at all. Good luck with the troubleshooting, it's worth it, the board is excellent.

Joe
post #1232 of 1469
For me, when I first installed everything, I got a blank screen.

I then hooked up the system with the bare minimum and let it run for about 5 minutes without a monitor. I shut it down and then hooked everything up and suddenly, I get video.
post #1233 of 1469
I received mine and got no video, hooked it up a speaker to hear continuous long beeps. NCI* had discontinued the item already, so I RMA'd it, took the money, and ordered elsewhere. New one came and worked like a charm. I was kind of worried about the ram, but I had specially ordered 2x2gigs of Crucial pcd6400 1.8V ram so I was pretty confident, and right thank god that it was the motherboard.
post #1234 of 1469
Question for those with a 690G board.
How are the onboard graphics for regular DVD and some light gaming? (Tiger woods '08, Myst series, GTA series)

Im going back and forth between getting a 780g board or a 690g board. There is not a big difference in price but I dont want to spend more than I have too.
post #1235 of 1469
Anyone having problems with the RealTek 1.90 drivers? I have been getting blue screens since I installed them.
I am running:
Windows XP Pro SP2
5000+ CPU
2GB RAM
320GB HD

Can't say for sure that it is these drivers that are causing my blue screens but the problems manifested themselves immediately after installing those drivers.
post #1236 of 1469
I am at a complete loss and now completely frustrated with this board. Apparently, no matter what I try to do, I cannot seem to get hardware deinterlacing/decoding working properly regardless of the decoder. I am watching only ripped DVDs and HDTV using MPC-HC in XP. All files that I watch are either IFO or TS. For this test I used a 1080i TS stream from the PBS show Super Why (my eyes tend to spot problems better on animation).

DScaler5: I know this is a purely software based decoder, but it provides a good performance baseline as a result. The picture has tons of combing and is completely unwatchable, but CPU utilization hangs around 30-35% and the picture is smooth.

NVidia Purevideo: Runs pretty smooth, but will only do so in software mode. No deinterlacing at all and it runs at about 60-70% CPU. My expectations weren't high because of the different brand, but I know people have gotten Purevideo working on ATI chips before.

ATI MPEG Decoder: Worst of the bunch, and because of my expectations, by far most disappointing. Stuttering, slow-mo, tons of tearing, picture break ups (like when watching a weak OTA HD signal). CPU utilization around 45%.

Intervideo non-CSS (came with Hauppauge HVR-1600): Probably the least of the evils right now, but it too is leaving the picture interlaced (if I pause, I can clearly see two fields at the same time). CPU utilization also around 40-45%, so the picture is very smooth (except for the deinterlacing).

I have automatic deinterlacing, motion adaptive, and inverse telecine all checked in the ATI drivers. I also checked the box for GPU scale and maintain aspect ratio. Is there some sort of magic setting I am missing? I'm going nuts with this thing, and may post a new thread about it. I figured I'd post here first though.
post #1237 of 1469
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Originally Posted by jojiboy View Post

No problem Tarkus2040. Must be a Gigabyte thing with the jumpers. The mobo I RMA'ed also didn't have a jumper pre-installed. Probably because their boards don't need a jumper in the default mode. The Abit Intel C2D board I have has an external switch for clearing the CMOS, a pretty convenient feature.

I've only had a few instances with DOA boards. Luckily, the GA-MA69GM-S2H fired up on the first try and hasn't hiccuped at all. Good luck with the troubleshooting, it's worth it, the board is excellent.

Joe

You're not going to believe this, but swapping out the memory worked! The kicker is that both pairs of RAM are identical (G.Skill w/ the same part number, verified in CPU-Z)! So not only is the PC with the Gigabyte board running my friend's "old" G.Skill just fine, but his PC with an ASRock board is running the "new" G.Skill w/o a problem as well! In all my years of building computers, I've never experienced a situation quite like this one. I just can't figure out why the ASRock board recognizes both pairs of memory without error, while the Gigabyte board recognizes only one of the pairs.

In the end, who cares, huh? I'm just glad I don't have to RMA the "defective" sticks! WOOHOO! Thanks again for your help, Joe (and all who responded).


--Jim
post #1238 of 1469
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Originally Posted by Tarkus2040 View Post

You're not going to believe this, but swapping out the memory worked! The kicker is that both pairs of RAM are identical (G.Skill w/ the same part number, verified in CPU-Z)! So not only is the PC with the Gigabyte board running my friend's "old" G.Skill just fine, but his PC with an ASRock board is running the "new" G.Skill w/o a problem as well! In all my years of building computers, I've never experienced a situation quite like this one. I just can't figure out why the ASRock board recognizes both pairs of memory without error, while the Gigabyte board recognizes only one of the pairs.

In the end, who cares, huh? I'm just glad I don't have to RMA the "defective" sticks! WOOHOO! Thanks again for your help, Joe (and all who responded).


--Jim

Glad to hear your persistence paid off Jim! As far as the G.Skill, maybe G.Skill used different memory chips from different manufacturers on the two sets you used. Of course, the only way to find out is to remove the heat spreaders and compare. Not worth it since you've got both systems up and running. That's the bottom line anyway. I tried G.Skill, A-Data, Crucial Ballistix and even OCZ Gold and the board I RMA'd still didn't fire up so it had to be a defective board. Hopefully the replacement board will fare better.
post #1239 of 1469
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Originally Posted by jojiboy View Post

Glad to hear your persistence paid off Jim! As far as the G.Skill, maybe G.Skill used different memory chips from different manufacturers on the two sets you used. Of course, the only way to find out is to remove the heat spreaders and compare. Not worth it since you've got both systems up and running. That's the bottom line anyway. I tried G.Skill, A-Data, Crucial Ballistix and even OCZ Gold and the board I RMA'd still didn't fire up so it had to be a defective board. Hopefully the replacement board will fare better.

I have my fingers crossed for ya, Joe. Please let us know what happens with the new board. Regarding the memory, I assume the part number (listed in CPU-Z) really has nothing to do with the brand of memory chips used? But it does make sense that it's the reason why the Gigabyte board didn't recognize the "new" pair of G.Skill. Yeah, I have no desire to remove the heat spreaders, but I'd wager a guess that G.Skill isn't imprinted on any of the memory chips (even though G.Skill is listed as the manufacturer in CPU-Z). They're probably more of a distributor than a manufacturer. Anyway, the next time you post I expect some good news.


--Jim
post #1240 of 1469
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Originally Posted by mattldm View Post

Question for those with a 690G board.
How are the onboard graphics for regular DVD and some light gaming? (Tiger woods '08, Myst series, GTA series)

Im going back and forth between getting a 780g board or a 690g board. There is not a big difference in price but I dont want to spend more than I have too.

DVD play back is fine in my system. I do not play games.
post #1241 of 1469
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Originally Posted by mattldm View Post

Question for those with a 690G board.
How are the onboard graphics for regular DVD and some light gaming? (Tiger woods '08, Myst series, GTA series)

Im going back and forth between getting a 780g board or a 690g board. There is not a big difference in price but I dont want to spend more than I have too.

DVD and file play back fine. Warhammer 40k , Warcraft 2 and World of Warcraft was fine also but it's not my gaming system just wanted to see if it would do it.
post #1242 of 1469
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Originally Posted by DinoT View Post

Anyone having problems with the RealTek 1.90 drivers? I have been getting blue screens since I installed them.
I am running:
Windows XP Pro SP2
5000+ CPU
2GB RAM
320GB HD

Can't say for sure that it is these drivers that are causing my blue screens but the problems manifested themselves immediately after installing those drivers.

Did my new HTPC with this drivers, and no trouble so far..! Maybe Antivirus issues..??
post #1243 of 1469
Anyone use this case with the Antec 2480 case? The SATA cables point perpendicular to the board and they face the HD cage with very little room standard SATA cable wont fit and 90 degree cable bend 90 DOWNWARD towrds the bottom of the case! wondering if anyone else has this issue and if they found a soloution (other than modding the case...) thanks.
post #1244 of 1469
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by joedeal View Post

Anyone use this case with the Antec 2480 case? The SATA cables point perpendicular to the board and they face the HD cage with very little room standard SATA cable wont fit and 90 degree cable bend 90 DOWNWARD towrds the bottom of the case! wondering if anyone else has this issue and if they found a soloution (other than modding the case...) thanks.

Several solutions in this thread earlier.

I describe a method I used to gently remove the rivets holding the bottom of the internal wall that the cable presses up against, allowing one to move the wall far enough to clear.

Read the message for details to avoid damage.

Use the "search this thread" function on "rivet" to find my post.

UPDATE: I just did the search and found my own post at:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...0#post12199010
post #1245 of 1469
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Originally Posted by Tarkus2040 View Post

I have my fingers crossed for ya, Joe. Please let us know what happens with the new board. Regarding the memory, I assume the part number (listed in CPU-Z) really has nothing to do with the brand of memory chips used? But it does make sense that it's the reason why the Gigabyte board didn't recognize the "new" pair of G.Skill. Yeah, I have no desire to remove the heat spreaders, but I'd wager a guess that G.Skill isn't imprinted on any of the memory chips (even though G.Skill is listed as the manufacturer in CPU-Z). They're probably more of a distributor than a manufacturer. Anyway, the next time you post I expect some good news.


--Jim

Thanks Jim. Looks like your fingers being crossed helped out. Received the new board yesterday. Installed the board and all the other peripherals that I originally installed on the RMA'd board. She fired right up. Now maybe I'll stop getting the evil-eye from wifey (it's her computer I was upgrading).

Yeah, I don't blame you, it's up and running so why mess with it. I don't think CPU-Z is able to identify the manufacturer of the mem chips, unless the manufacturer burns that info into the SPD. You'd probably win that wager, I doubt G.Skill manufactures the mem chips themselves. Thanks again Jim!
post #1246 of 1469
This is the MB I used in my HTPC.I coupled it with a AMD 2x 5000+ and 2 gigs of memory.All in all once I worked out all the bugs it seems to work pretty good.

when I saw this thread I thought I'd see if I could a few questions answered.
I really had only one issue with this board. Prior to buying I spoke to gigabyte and asked if the onboard graphics would support HD/BD bottom line he said yes. So I got it and set it up, 1st BD movie spuders and fails. Next one plays but I have a horizontal line that flutters,worse with action scenes. Call them back and they say "not with blu-ray you need a ati 2600" So I got an ATI 2600XT and with PDVD it works perfect but with Nero Showtime, Arcsoft TMT I get the horizontal line.

Why does it work with PDVD and not the others? Is the any to fix this? I tried overclocking but none of the settings will stay as soon as I click apply or test it goes back to default

will/can the HDMI output ever be 1.3 compliant?
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thanks. I will give it a shot.
post #1250 of 1469
I just installed Catalyst 8.4 and my TV display turned to Black and white. Do I need to tweak any settings. Using Gigabyte GA-MA690SM-S2H. SD TV attached to on-board S-Video (thru bracket). Vista Ultimate gave a warning that new hardware has been installed and turned the Aero to Basic. I noticed that onboard X1250 in now reported as X1200 by Catalyst Control center. Any help will be highly appreciated. Thanks.
post #1251 of 1469
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by aminoacid View Post

I just installed Catalyst 8.4 and my TV display turned to Black and white. Do I need to tweak any settings. Using Gigabyte GA-MA690SM-S2H. SD TV attached to on-board S-Video (thru bracket).

S-Video changes to black-and-white when the cable is not connected properly.

Try disconnecting and reconnecting both ends of the S-Video cable between the PC and the TV, and if that doesn't work, try another cable (many devices "throw in" an S-Video cable). If none of that works, try reseating the connector from the bracket to the motherboard.

98% sure that this is a connector problem, not a software problem. For the years that I used S-Video from my DVR to my TV, it frequently went black-and-white when someone would walk heavily past the TV ! S-Video connectors are a poor design...

PS X1250 is a sub-model of x1200 series, I don't think that means anything. However, as a rule, since the video is built-in to the motherboard, I only use drivers from the Gigabyte site (which might not have the Aero problem).
post #1252 of 1469
Tried a different cable. Problem persists. I suspect problem is with with either TV out on the motherboard or the bracket itself. Any idea how to fix this> Thanks.
post #1253 of 1469
Is it possible to get the audio out of the HDMI port to my receiver? I only get 2 channel using PowerDVD and no audio using Arcsoft TotalTheatre. Or do i have to use the SPDIF? I thought that was the benefit of one HDMI cable.
post #1254 of 1469
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by jsjames View Post

Is it possible to get the audio out of the HDMI port to my receiver? I only get 2 channel using PowerDVD and no audio using Arcsoft TotalTheatre. Or do i have to use the SPDIF? I thought that was the benefit of one HDMI cable.

Yes,

- It is true that everyone else exists only to save me the time of searching the web, where I would find 2154456450 results for "no HDMI audio output".

- It is true that one's head automatically explodes if you read the Gigabyte manual.

- It is true that you are banned from this Forum if you ever try to search the thread for the 264373 previous times your question has been asked, instead of just asking again.

- It is true that Descartes actually said " I have no HDMI audio output, therefore I am".
post #1255 of 1469
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Originally Posted by aminoacid View Post

Tried a different cable. Problem persists. I suspect problem is with with either TV out on the motherboard or the bracket itself. Any idea how to fix this> Thanks.

Your TV may just be disabled in Catalyst Control Center. Try this, open CCC and make sure you're in Advanced view, not Basic. Select "Displays Manager" in the right panel. Look to see if your TV is the active display and is not shown has a disabled display. If it's disabled, then just click and drag the TV icon to the "Main" section. See if that works. Hope this made sense.

Joe
post #1256 of 1469
Hi Guys,

Whew! I just spent two days reading this whole thread!

I really want to take the plunge into a HTPC and our needs aren't too great so I think this board would work out well for us.

First the needs
*) Basically just time shifting of television.
*) The ability to burn recorded shows to DVD (DVD compliant DVDs, not DVD_VR!)
*) A good channel guide and easy setting of record timers.
*) The ability to play commercial standard definition DVDs.

We actually have a Polaroid DRM-2100G stand alone DVR and it's worked very well for us, though it has some quirks:
*) The darn clock likes to wander so we have to reset it often. (auto setting via time signal doesn't work as the signal isn't transmitted on our cable system)
*) Discs burnt on it are burnt at 4x speed with no way to update the write strategies or increase the burn speed. Not a big issue - using good quality TY discs it has always made playable discs, but they don't error scan well so I usually re-burn them on the PC to get the best quality (and hopefully most scratch tolerant / longest lasting copy) I can. Also, though the hard drive can be easily replaced / upgraded in these units the burner is not easily upgraded so when it fails it can't be easily repaired
*) Discs burnt on it use the DVD_VR format which is not a compliant format and it causes fast forward and rewind issues on many (most) stand alone DVD players. (there is some software to fix such discs but it doesn't work on the Polaroid discs)
*) The tuner is mono only (unbelievable in this day and age, huh?!)
*) The tuner has a lower volume, not a big deal but it is annoying.

All in all we just love it though! The ability to set record timers for your favorite shows and then not have to worry about changing tapes and stuff is just awesome! It's left us wanting a little more though . . . the channel listing and easier recording setup is what we want the most, second we would like the ability to burn shows to a compliant DVD format.

Sounds like we're needing an HTPC, doesn't it?!

Our current A/V equipment and projected upcoming needs
*) A 27 Toshiba CRT standard definition TV. It just has the RCA A/V hookups (yellow/red/white) and an SVHS video input.
*) We may upgrade to a 37 to 40 plasma screen in the next year or so and we would like the HTPC to work with it.
*) We don't have any immediate plans to go to BluRay DVD.
*) Expanded basic cable (68 channels) that are delivered via unencrypted analog (and according to our cable company they don't have any immediate plans to cease the analog basic, even after Feb of '09).

That's about it, not too demanding.

What I'm thinking as far as hardware
*) This motherboard (duh!) (I know a newer version is out but it doesn't have SVHS output)
*) 2 gb of the proper ram (1.8v, dual channel, etc.)
*) A 5000+ Black Edition cpu with a Ninja mini cooler, hopefully over clocked to 3 ghz. Probably overkill, but it seems that BR needs a 3 ghz processor to work and this is the most cost effective way to get to 3 ghz? BR is not a priority right now, but in the future it might be so I thought it might be nice to be prepared for it if we change our mind. If a lesser processor that was significantly cheaper that would handle our TV and SD DVD needs is available though I may go for it and upgrade the processor later if we go to BR.
*) An Antec 2480 case.
*) Probably a 500 gb hard drive - either ide or sata . . . I don't really have a preference though I'm just used to ide (the older I get the more set in my ways I get!) - any real pros/cons between the two? (cables being smaller and round and thusly not affecting air flow in the case is the one that comes to mind)
*) One big single drive OK, or should I install a smaller one just for the Operating system and software and keep the big one for data?
*) An BenQ 1640 DVD burner - I just have a spare one. I would move to a sata drive if there were a compelling reason to do so.
*) Two Hauppauge PVR-150s - we'd like to be able to watch/record one program while recording another. In fact we may want three tuners (seems like they always put the good stuff on at the same time!). I think you can only run two 150s, so a third USB tuner may be needed. We'll start with two PVR-150s and expand if needed (we know we will like the two 150s since both can record as being able to record just one tuner has been an issue a few times with the Polaroid)
*) The Hauppauge remote and ir sensor.
*) Wired LAN connection to our router.
*) Haven't decided on keyboard and mouse, but probably will try to get by on standard items - could go to a wireless set if needed though.

Software
Undecided -> any and all inputs are welcomed!!!
*) I'd REALLY like to try MythTV which would require Linux of some flavor. Is anyone running MythTV or Linux on this motherboard?
*) Barring Linux, I do have a spare copy of Windows Vista Home Premium OEM on hand. My son upgraded his machine last fall and bought it but he had trouble with drivers for both the motherboard and peripherals (he didn't build a whole new machine) so he went back to Windows XP Professional.
*) If I have to go to Vista I'll probably try GB-PVR, if we're not happy with it then we'll probably try BeyondTV (With BeyondMedia and DVD burning plugins).
*) GB-PVR and BeyondTV aren't our only preferences though, if anyone is running any of the other PVR software packages with this board I'd love to hear how things are working for you!
*) If needed, I would buy a copy of Windows XP (but it seems this board is quite happy with Vista?)

There we go, am I on the right track for a fairly trouble free build?

Thanks!

Steve
post #1257 of 1469
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Originally Posted by jojiboy View Post

Your TV may just be disabled in Catalyst Control Center. Try this, open CCC and make sure you're in Advanced view, not Basic. Select "Displays Manager" in the right panel. Look to see if your TV is the active display and is not shown has a disabled display. If it's disabled, then just click and drag the TV icon to the "Main" section. See if that works. Hope this made sense.

Joe

My TV is enabled in the catalyst.
post #1258 of 1469
I've been unable to get the NIC to work at 1000T speeds...I even used a lookback plug with no success...methinks that we are being bamboozled...
post #1259 of 1469
I am about to purchase a blu-ray drive, is the onboard video good enough for it? my system is 5200+ x2, 4G ddr2667 , vista64. Do i need to overclock the cpu? i also have a spare 2400pro if onboard will be fine, then i wont bother putting it in.
post #1260 of 1469
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Originally Posted by cganesh75 View Post

I am about to purchase a blu-ray drive, is the onboard video good enough for it? my system is 5200+ x2, 4G ddr2667 , vista64. Do i need to overclock the cpu? i also have a spare 2400pro if onboard will be fine, then i wont bother putting it in.

I'd like a recommendation also, I have Vista Premium(32 bit), X2-6000+ 2GB of 800 Ram and I just put in the LG Combo drive and it's not quite up to playing the higher bitrate AVCs it actually does a decent job, but it still stutters a little too often and the CPU usage is always running 96 to 100%. I'm just looking for a card that will do the job with this mobo. There isn't anyway to get the audio through the hdmi with an add-on video card, is there?
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